My apologies to the list: My original statement was in error. Wesley
correctly describes what countries we block and why.
-Nick Johnson
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 3:11 AM, Wesley Chun (Google)
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wrote:
Cuba, Iran, Iraq, North Korea, Syria, and Sudan are a
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 5:38 AM, WallyDD shaneb...@gmail.com wrote:
It would be nice if people could use some actual examples as to why
app engine is a joke. One problem with emails doesn't cut it. The time
limit has been discussed until we are all sick of it.
I am not convinced that Google
Thanks for the clarification.
On Jan 14, 10:19 am, Nick Johnson (Google) nick.john...@google.com
wrote:
This is not correct. We do not block any App Engine site for any country or
region. Any blocking is entirely due to third parties between the user and
our servers.
-Nick Johnson
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Rubbish.
Do you want some proof?
This is not correct. We do not block any App Engine site for any country or
region. Any blocking is entirely due to third parties between the user and
our servers.
-Nick Johnson
On Jan 12, 8:41 am, mateusz mateusz.r...@gmail.com wrote:
Standard
http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=1072
On Jan 14, 4:19 pm, Nick Johnson (Google) nick.john...@google.com
wrote:
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 5:38 AM, WallyDD shaneb...@gmail.com wrote:
It would be nice if people could use some actual examples as to why
app engine is a
Wow, reading the comments on that issue scares me. Does Google really block
App Engine access in those countries, or are those countries blocking GAE
IPs?
2010/1/14 WallyDD shaneb...@gmail.com
http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=1072
On Jan 14, 4:19 pm, Nick Johnson
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 2:04 AM, Nickolas Daskalou n...@daskalou.com wrote:
Wow, reading the comments on that issue scares me. Does Google really block
App Engine access in those countries, or are those countries blocking GAE
IPs?
It is mostly other countries blocking GAE. If even one site on
Here is a page from a user in Syria;
http://imgur.com/WGtuI
Only China blocks GAE.
The rest are blocked by google.
Quite frankly I have no clue how the citizens let such a government
evolve...
Are we talking about the entire US government or just Hillary?
On Jan 14, 5:56 pm, OvermindDL1
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 3:16 AM, WallyDD shaneb...@gmail.com wrote:
Here is a page from a user in Syria;
http://imgur.com/WGtuI
Only China blocks GAE.
The rest are blocked by google.
Quite frankly I have no clue how the citizens let such a government
evolve...
Are we talking about the
Locke ,
May be you are right I am not that experienced, but since I have been
around programming since IBM 360 370 era, machines you probably have
only seen in technology museums, and I tough the subject for years
etc. etc. and I still make a living from this job, means I am only
lucky. By the
We have been developing our internal HR and invoicing app in GAE for
the last 1.5 years. This system used to be stable. Of late, that has
changed. We are getting random server errors (timeouts may be), at
least 50% of the time. This has made the application quite unusable.
Is anyone else
In China, it really blocked by Gov. We cannot access Youtube,
Facebook, Twitter especially in some special period, We cannot
access whole *.appsopt.com
For the process have to take long time to run, it have to be broken
down into small piece of tasks. This is basic theory of cloud
computing.
We've noticed a lot of timeouts too recently... however these aren't
reported in the logs. The app just doesn't return results. Has been
happening in the last 2 weeks. Very frustrating.
Database timeouts (which are recorded in the logs) are also pretty
unacceptable.
On Jan 14, 10:27 pm, qburst
How much proof do you want?
How about I offer free first class tickets to any of the blocked
countries to both Larry and Serge?
And for the timeouts I keep getting? Should I fly Larry, Serge and
everyone on this group to where I am to look at my logs?
On Jan 15, 2:21 am, Locke
In the future if Google allows us to choose which country our apps are
hosted in and we choose to host outside the US, would that lift this
restriction?
2010/1/15 Wesley Chun (Google) wesc+...@google.com wesc%2b...@google.com
Cuba, Iran, Iraq, North Korea, Syria, and Sudan are a magical group
2010/1/12 Thanasis t.deleni...@gmail.com
I also tend to think that GAE is a very promising environment, but
it's currently unusable.
My case:
A simple, oss related web site, using just jsp tags to include headers/
footers. It gets about 300 uniques / 1000 pageviews per day. No
servlets,
Many thanks Wesley for the clarification and an acknowledgment of the
issue.
We can all wait and see what Hillary has to say next week.
http://www.moneycontrol.com/news/technology/us-state-dept-to-unveil-internet-policy_435366.html
On Jan 15, 11:11 am, Wesley Chun (Google) wesc+...@google.com
2. Use the flash to retrieve the data from datastore. If the request
failed, retrieve it again.
This can be done using HTML+JavaScript as well. Here is the piece of
code from my app (notice that it uses jQuery), which performs HTTP-GET
(which could be HTML, JSON or anything) and retry up to
Thanasis
take it easy - it was just a joke (may be of a bad taste but, as you
mentioned it was not my day) , and nothing to do with your English the
intention was just to make you think that sometimes we write bad code
in a harry and then blame the infrastructure or whatever.
Getting to GAE
Nick, you must have very little experience programming if you can't
think of a reason for a process to run for more than thirty seconds.
Ever hear of background tasks? Cron? TaskQueue? Ever use URLFetch?
That eats your execution time no matter how efficient your app is.
Right now, appengine just
well, for me, i don think i could judge how much programming
experience others are having. what i can contribute is my answers /
experiences to some objective questions
question no.1 - process running for more than 30 seconds
sure, whatever kinds of batch processing, huge updates, urlfetch for
On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 8:42 PM, Eric Ka Ka Ng ngk...@gmail.com wrote:
question no.1 - process running for more than 30 seconds
sure, whatever kinds of batch processing, huge updates, urlfetch for
thousands of URLs etc. can take long long time. but this is just NOT
what GAE built for. it
It would be nice if people could use some actual examples as to why
app engine is a joke. One problem with emails doesn't cut it. The time
limit has been discussed until we are all sick of it.
I am not convinced that Google has a lot of money making websites on
it (whether they make money through
For which countries is GAE currently blocked?
And when you say blocked, you mean blocked for developers or for
visitors?
On Jan 14, 7:38 am, WallyDD shaneb...@gmail.com wrote:
Google also blocks GAE to quite a few countries yet points fingers at
the Chinese Govt.
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1) There are no data-intensive applications that do not at some point
require batch processing. No matter how clever you are in designing
your application, at some point you will need to run a big query to
calculate statistics, change the model, clean the data, etc. If you
haven't had to do
If the same action once finish successfully and second time, the same
action finish with error page, i cannot tell that platform is stable
and predictable for business
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I also tend to think that GAE is a very promising environment, but
it's currently unusable.
My case:
A simple, oss related web site, using just jsp tags to include headers/
footers. It gets about 300 uniques / 1000 pageviews per day. No
servlets, no processing, nothing like that - just pages.
yeah, so read the comments about Request was
aborted after waiting too long to attempt to service your request.
problem - without any explanation from Google;
this is very instable platform, but I will try, I will try...
I am writing basic servlets so in normal app server it works
predictable,
It does work most of the time... You just have to structure it
properly.
In 1 of my scripts upto 40% of the statements are
try:catch :D
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You have to spend more time trying to get around all those random
quota and rate-limit landmines than you spend actually developing your
application. Then you have to deal with having your processes killed
all the time for bogus reasons. So this is not ready for business yet.
If my app is working
Maybe (a big maybe) if Google introduces some other lighter language
(like PHP(?)), we could stand a chance.
But now (the Java GAE version is what I am playing with), GAE seem so
massively oversubscribed that it makes the worst web hosting
industry's oversellers to look like paradise.
I would
This GAE is a joke keeps coming in the group from time to time so it
is a joke by itself by now.
For me it is a wonderful platform, provided you know what are you
doing, do not forget it is a tool you got to know how to use, just
optimize your code for it and it delivers for you.
Contrary to
To the original poster: Get Pissed. It helps.
In all seriousness, though. I think that GAE has its fair share of
limitations, but has a lot of potential. Like everything else, I think it
best you read the documentation, do a little prototyping and assess weather
or not it meets your needs. If
sometimes it is a joke.
especially when it is claimed to be a scalable platform where you
cann't fetch items which index is more than 1 thousand.
On 1月13日, 上午8时59分, Patrick Twohig patr...@namazustudios.com wrote:
To the original poster: Get Pissed. It helps.
In all seriousness, though. I
I really think you need a cup of coffee - hard day maybe?
Leave my English aside. You are referring to a post in my mailing list
started by someone else - missed that by mistake??? Even so, your
assumption that only English Professors write good code is by itself
indicative of your deep software
On Jan 12, 1:41 pm, mateusz mateusz.r...@gmail.com wrote:
It's wasting time to think that you can use google app engine as
production environment event for the smallest form based application.
It has worked very well for my business for over a year now. If you
build your application right, I
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