Re: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+

2015-03-04 Thread jonl
https://sdbg.github.io Allows you to debug javascript in Eclipse when running your application in Chrome. Has its limitations and is a work in progress, but it works. On Tuesday, March 3, 2015 at 1:49:47 AM UTC-7, Liam Stewart wrote: Debugging javascript is a king size pain in the arse if

Re: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+

2015-03-03 Thread Ümit Seren
What does debugging hibernate/hazelcast have to do anything with debugging the frontend (GWT) part ? Yes, debugging in SDM has it's pain points but apart from Dart (which has its own Chrome version Dartium) every transpiled/compiled languages relies on source maps and the browser's DevTools,

Re: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+

2015-01-07 Thread Slava Pankov
Just tiny update. Dev mode is still working just fine on Windows with Chromium 38.0.2125.0 (292384) from Dart 1.8.3 distribution. On Monday, February 3, 2014 4:01:41 PM UTC-8, Brian Slesinsky wrote: Mozilla has stopped exporting some C++ symbols that the Firefox plugin relies on [1].

Re: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+

2014-11-07 Thread David Hoffer
That is really good news. I haven't tried this yet (need to upgrade IDEA to 14) but it sounds like one gets most/all the benefits of DevMode development/debugging yet it's really using SDM. Very impressive. -Dave On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 6:55 AM, Jens jens.nehlme...@gmail.com wrote: I'm using

Re: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+

2014-11-06 Thread Jens
I'm using IntelliJ...I'd like to hear if/how IntelliJ can do this too. With the released IntelliJ 14 things are a bit easier. - Create a new GWT run configuration and select User Super Dev Mode and at the bottom with JavaScript debugger. - IntelliJ will automatically generate a JavaScript

Re: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+

2014-11-03 Thread Leejjon
There's a developer version of Firefox coming out: https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2014/11/03/the-first-browser-dedicated-to-developers-is-coming/ Maybe we can ask Mozilla to export the C++ symbols in this developer version, so the GWT dev plugin can work on this developer version of Firefox. Op

Re: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+

2014-11-03 Thread David Hoffer
IMO, the loss of DevMode is a huge problem for GWT, I understand SuperDevMode is its replacement but unfortunately that is no where near a true replacement at least not yet. It's a bit hard to explain unless you have used both approaches on a large project but the best way I can think of to

Re: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+

2014-11-03 Thread Timothy Michael Spear
development. Tim From: David Hoffer dhoff...@gmail.com Reply-To: google-web-toolkit@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, November 3, 2014 at 9:45 AM To: Google Web Toolkit google-web-toolkit@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+ IMO, the loss of DevMode

Re: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+

2014-11-03 Thread David Hoffer
: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+ IMO, the loss of DevMode is a huge problem for GWT, I understand SuperDevMode is its replacement but unfortunately that is no where near a true replacement at least not yet. It's a bit hard to explain unless you have used both approaches

Re: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+

2014-11-03 Thread Jens
I definitely use a MVP/C model but not Places. I don't think I should be tided to one and only one MVP approach. Places are just for navigation. They have nothing to do with MVP. You can use them without GWTs Activity class. However even if I did it's not clear how that would help

Re: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+

2014-11-03 Thread David Hoffer
I like where you might be going with your last paragraph (the IntelliJ part )...Other than that there is the experimental Eclipse plugin named SDBG so you can use your IDE for debugging (but you are still debugging JS!). IntelliJ can do the same out of the box. Are you saying that IntelliJ can

Re: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+

2014-11-03 Thread Paul Robinson
If you're using eclipse and chrome, then sdbg is good. It's not perfect, but it is *much* better than browsing Java source and setting break points in the browser. Paul On 3 Nov 2014 17:49, David Hoffer dhoff...@gmail.com wrote: I like where you might be going with your last paragraph (the

Re: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+

2014-11-03 Thread David Hoffer
I'm using IntelliJ...I'd like to hear if/how IntelliJ can do this too. -Dave On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Paul Robinson ukcue...@gmail.com wrote: If you're using eclipse and chrome, then sdbg is good. It's not perfect, but it is *much* better than browsing Java source and setting break

Re: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+

2014-11-03 Thread Jens
I'm using IntelliJ...I'd like to hear if/how IntelliJ can do this too. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Sf9lahq0jr0AsxR74ZE-Lntf0y5ZNk0104mhD8ozEuM/edit Also see the linked issue in the doc. -- J. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google

Re: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+

2014-10-15 Thread mtr
Lost of Development Mode is kind of tombstone for GWT projects in my company :( Most of Java oriented developers switched to JS frameworks as they lost their one common language environment argument. JS oriented developers, well they were always in opposition to slow and clumsy java

Re: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+

2014-10-15 Thread Jens
With SDM I'm bind to Chrome at least if I want to use source maps ? Firefox and IE 11 both support source maps as well. Opera should also support it as it is now based on Chrome. In case source maps is not supported you still see nearly unoptimized JavaScript that looks very similar to

Re: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+

2014-07-14 Thread Slava Pankov
Also on Windows it's still possible to use Chrome 36 with devmode. Download Dart (I'm using 1.5.3 distribution), and use Chromium from there (it's portable, just copy it to any folder). Also you need GWT-Developer-Plugin_v1.0.11357.crx of course, see previous post. On Friday, July 11, 2014

Re: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+

2014-07-11 Thread Alex Epshteyn
As of now, quite sadly, the GWT plugin is no longer supported in the latest of versions of Firefox nor Chrome (starting with 35). I've been using GWT since 2006, and I think it's a sad state of affairs that after so much work went into GWT's OOPHM (a.k.a Development Mode), we're back to

Re: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+

2014-06-01 Thread Emiliano André
Hello, I created this guide ( http://openbpm.wordpress.com/2014/05/31/getting-gwt-plugin-to-work-on-firefox-on-ubuntu-14-04/) to get multiple versions of firefox running locally in order to be able to have an older version with GWT working while still use the latest firefox version for

Re: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+

2014-04-17 Thread Mario Jauvin
People, this has been going on since beginning of February with no action on the part of Mozilla. I have create a new mozilla bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=996947 which is about the fact that GWT developper does not work in Firefox any longer. I have proposed a workaround

Re: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+

2014-04-17 Thread Brian Slesinsky
For the direction of an open source project, people who volunteer to do actual coding are more important than marketing efforts by people who only want to be users. The intersection of GWT developers and Firefox browser developers seems to be the empty set, so we have very limited influence. This

Re: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+

2014-04-10 Thread Ivan Markov
The StackTraceDeobfuscator does not play very well with the Super Dev Mode code server though. Reason: StackTraceDeobfuscator needs to have access to the AABBCD...HF.symbolMap files generated during the last SDM compilation. However this directory is a moving target in the SDM code server

Re: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+

2014-04-10 Thread Brian Slesinsky
Ivan, there is an existing bug that's related so I will reply there: https://code.google.com/p/google-web-toolkit/issues/detail?id=7693 On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 7:22 AM, Ivan Markov ivan.mar...@gmail.com wrote: The StackTraceDeobfuscator does not play very well with the Super Dev Mode code

Re: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+

2014-04-10 Thread Thomas Broyer
IIUC, Chrome will kill DevMode in 35 (current in beta, will reach the stable channel in May): http://blog.chromium.org/2014/04/chrome-35-beta-more-developer-control.html On Tuesday, February 4, 2014 1:01:41 AM UTC+1, Brian Slesinsky wrote: Mozilla has stopped exporting some C++ symbols that

Re: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+

2014-04-09 Thread Chak Lai
The stack-trace in Super Dev Mode is the only major issue that I have. It would be nice if the UncaughtException in SDM can tell me which line in java source is causing the problem, instead of giving me those JavaScript stack-trace messages... So far I like SDM. My current project is

Re: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+

2014-04-09 Thread Brian Slesinsky
If you are debugging interactively, using pause on uncaught exceptions can help. Then you can look at the stack frames in the debugger. Another workaround is to log stack traces to the server and use StackTraceDeobfuscator. This will also help you in production:

Re: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+

2014-04-04 Thread Thomas Broyer
On Wednesday, April 2, 2014 3:33:43 PM UTC+2, Thomas Broyer wrote: On Wednesday, April 2, 2014 3:05:22 PM UTC+2, stuckagain wrote: For me it will depend how well SDM works with IE because that is the main browser that I need to support. Not all GWT applications are put on the internet

Re: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+

2014-04-04 Thread Ivan Markov
Regarding sourcemap support for fields/variable names deobfuscation: 1- I found some thoughts on SourceMap.next here: http://fitzgeraldnick.com/weblog/55/ . It goes as far as suggesting how conditional breakpoints and eval() expressed in the source language can work for sourcemap-based

Re: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+

2014-04-03 Thread Jérôme Beau
Thank you Brian. I can understand that, as well as I acknowledge the compensating benefits (which is not an appropriate term to me, as an extra arm doesn't really compensate loosing a leg). Hope for GWT that the long term will not be so long, before the the benefits of I don't have to learn

Re: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+

2014-04-02 Thread Jérôme Beau
Hi Thomas, I just realized that lack of Firefox 27+ support for dev mode recently (tried it because Chrome's plugin crashed too often) and really think this is a shoot in the foot for GWT : even if you don't control Mozilla choices of course, forcing to move to a non-mature SDM is very risky

Re: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+

2014-04-02 Thread Aleksander Gralak
Do not agree. A lot of people complain about it. 2014-04-02 11:05 GMT+02:00 Jérôme Beau javar...@gmail.com: Hi Thomas, I just realized that lack of Firefox 27+ support for dev mode recently (tried it because Chrome's plugin crashed too often) and really think this is a shoot in the foot

Re: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+

2014-04-02 Thread Jens
I just realized that lack of Firefox 27+ support for dev mode recently (tried it because Chrome's plugin crashed too often) and really think this is a shoot in the foot for GWT : even if you don't control Mozilla choices of course, forcing to move to a non-mature SDM is very risky for GWT

Re: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+

2014-04-02 Thread David
For me it will depend how well SDM works with IE because that is the main browser that I need to support. Not all GWT applications are put on the internet and in an enterprise environment (more specifically banking) IE is still king. It will already be a big battle to get them to move to IE9 or

Re: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+

2014-04-02 Thread Thomas Broyer
On Wednesday, April 2, 2014 3:05:22 PM UTC+2, stuckagain wrote: For me it will depend how well SDM works with IE because that is the main browser that I need to support. Not all GWT applications are put on the internet and in an enterprise environment (more specifically banking) IE is

Re: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+

2014-04-02 Thread Jérôme Beau
Hi Jens, Just for the record : do you agree that using SDM you cannot inspect Java values of Java variables in your browser? I agree about the mobile dev, about knowing the underlying web platform, about everything but... any debugging session, Java or JS, have to be consistent : if I debug

Re: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+

2014-04-02 Thread Ümit Seren
What exactly do you mean with I cannot inspect Java values of Java variables with SDM ? Can you provide an example where you can't inspect a Java value with Chrome Dev Tools ? I think Dev Mode will never come back. SDM is here to stay and despite there is a lot to be desired, with time

Re: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+

2014-04-02 Thread Vassilis Virvilis
A lot of negative feedback (maybe ) has been going for SDM. It seems a little harsh to my eyes so here is my positive 2 cents. We are using SDM for a new project which started from zero lines but grows up pretty fast. We are importing older (even non GWT) modules and 3rd party projects with a

Re: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+

2014-04-02 Thread Jens
Am Mittwoch, 2. April 2014 15:57:55 UTC+2 schrieb Jérôme Beau: Hi Jens, Just for the record : do you agree that using SDM you cannot inspect Java values of Java variables in your browser? Yes thats true. The only Java code you see in the browser is the Java source file provided via

Re: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+

2014-04-02 Thread Jérôme Beau
Hi Ümit, By I cannot inspect Java values of Java variables I mean that the source-mapping of the Chrome Dev Tools (which are good for JS) : - *shows me stuff I'm not interested into *(most of the time) : this is Window[0], DOM, JS or internal GWT-generated functions or properties appear, such

Re: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+

2014-04-02 Thread Brian Slesinsky
It's true these are disadvantages. There are some compensating advantages that people are pointing out: the code executes faster, it works with remote websites where latency is higher, it works with mobile phones, and so on. But there's no question that losing DevMode (other than IE and Firefox

Re: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+

2014-04-02 Thread Slava Pankov
DevMode is working just fine in Firefox 26 (not 24). And probably will work till Firefox ESR becomes 27 (it's only 24.4 now). So there is a time frame for normally working DevMode at least till the end of 2014. I hope SDM will be much better then. What I'm concerned about that GWT team don't

Re: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+

2014-03-28 Thread Thomas Broyer
On Friday, March 28, 2014 3:58:00 AM UTC+1, James Wendel wrote: My company got screwed by using GXT2 with gxt-uibinder library that broke with GWT 2.5 due to compiler changes. We've been stuck on GWT 2.4 for that reason as we had 100+ .ui.xml files to convert to pure java. We finally did

Re: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+

2014-03-28 Thread Ed Bras
Can't agree more. Same experience, even contributed to mygwt (previous name of GXT)... The nice thing about GWT: making easy/fast small lib's, is also a risk; not being maintained.. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To

Re: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+

2014-03-28 Thread Juan Pablo Gardella
Hello James, after replace ui.xml by pure javadoes the application compile faster? I thought ui.xml views increment a lot the compiler time. Juan 2014-03-27 23:58 GMT-03:00 James Wendel jmwen...@gmail.com: My company got screwed by using GXT2 with gxt-uibinder library that broke with GWT

Re: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+

2014-03-28 Thread dhoffer
Could you elaborate on how you have your POM setup? I'm trying to make the switch to SDM but I get errors running run-codeserver. Your setup seems ideal I'd like to know how you have both of those things configured. Not sure it matters but I use IntelliJ instead of Eclipse...DM worked great.

Re: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+

2014-03-27 Thread James Wendel
My company got screwed by using GXT2 with gxt-uibinder library that broke with GWT 2.5 due to compiler changes. We've been stuck on GWT 2.4 for that reason as we had 100+ .ui.xml files to convert to pure java. We finally did the work, but it was definitely a painful lesson. -- You received

Re: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+

2014-03-05 Thread Ed Bras
They have to change, they have to update their tools and move forward, or quit doing Web dev. Agree, that's why I spend a lot of grey hairs in using SDM, but it's simple not there yet saidly... Don't get me wrong, I wish it would as I certainly see the advantages. I noticed that it's hard to

Re: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+

2014-03-05 Thread Thomas Broyer
On Wednesday, March 5, 2014 9:30:54 AM UTC+1, Ed wrote: They have to change, they have to update their tools and move forward, or quit doing Web dev. Agree, that's why I spend a lot of grey hairs in using SDM, but it's simple not there yet saidly... Don't get me wrong, I wish it would as

Re: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+

2014-03-04 Thread Joseph Lust
I'm surprised more folks are not excited to jump ship to SuperDevMode. I'd argue Eclipse DevMode is more pain than it's worth. Certainly, it is very cool to have your backend and frontend breakpoints set and hit on the same screen. Yet I've spent a lot of time trying to all of the *Run

Re: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+

2014-03-04 Thread Ed Bras
I'm surprised more folks are not excited to jump ship to SuperDevMode. I think because many dev peeps use GWT for enterprise projects.(and they should of course)... And for bigger projects, SDM is (still) hard to use (as explained in this post, and I really tried/used it several times).

Re: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+

2014-03-04 Thread Thomas Broyer
And as a corollary, Enterprise culture has a HUGE resistance to change. There are people out there still using GWT 2.4 (more than 2 years old already!) or even older versions. The problem is with these people and that culture; most of the time they chose GWT (and webapps) for bad reasons, and

Re: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+

2014-03-01 Thread Thomas Broyer
On Friday, February 28, 2014 10:48:25 PM UTC+1, joerg.h...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi Jens, Maybe you should just give it a serious try ? I already gave SDM several tries. However it never worked in my case at all. The problem is that I am not just doing a hello world with GWT but some

Re: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+

2014-02-28 Thread Ümit Seren
The Chrome Dev Tools support actually most of eclipse's debugger features like: - Evaluating deeply into variables - Conditional breakpoints - Exception breakpoints (break on uncaught exception and any exception) - Dynamically evaluating expressions Missing features are AFAIK Drop to

Re: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+

2014-02-28 Thread Jens
you can evaluate deeply into variables and objects, You can do that in Chrome add conditional breakpoints, You can do that in Chrome exception breakpoints, You can do that in Chrome dynamically evaluate expressions, You can do that in Chrome So the most important

Re: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+

2014-02-28 Thread Nagin Kothari
I do not know what Jetty problem Jörg is talking about. I am using GWT 2.6 with FF 26 and I am able to use DevMode. On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 6:21 AM, joerg.hohwil...@googlemail.com joerg.hohwil...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi there, I can understand that it is a hard task to maintain the GWT

Re: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+

2014-02-28 Thread Thomas Broyer
On Friday, February 28, 2014 1:59:24 AM UTC+1, Brian Slesinsky wrote: I'm not sure what the Jetty problems are but they should be fixed. Do we have a good bug report for them? There's a strange classloader issue: https://code.google.com/p/google-web-toolkit/issues/detail?id=8585 And a

Re: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+

2014-02-28 Thread joerg.hohwil...@googlemail.com
Hi Jens, Maybe you should just give it a serious try ? I already gave SDM several tries. However it never worked in my case at all. The problem is that I am not just doing a hello world with GWT but some rather complex UI framework with some special aspects. I hope that I do not appear just

Re: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+

2014-02-27 Thread joerg.hohwil...@googlemail.com
Hi there, I can understand that it is a hard task to maintain the GWT and especially DevMode with its plugins. However, the hole thing about GWT is that you can do pure Java and use the Java tooling. Developers know how to work with Eclipse. And within the Eclipse debugger you can evaluate

Re: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+

2014-02-27 Thread Brian Slesinsky
I'm not sure what the Jetty problems are but they should be fixed. Do we have a good bug report for them? (In our setup we see stack traces but Jetty still runs.) - Brian On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 4:51 PM, joerg.hohwil...@googlemail.com joerg.hohwil...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi there, I can

Re: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+

2014-02-25 Thread Benjamin Bitdiddle
Would anyone like to follow up the last comment on the bugzilla thread, where a FF dev claims that: Most C++ JSAPI usage in extensions can in fact be replaced by a combination of privileged script and the debugger APIs I assume we wouldn't be seeing this thread if that was really true as you

Re: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+

2014-02-25 Thread Brian Slesinsky
I'm not sure there's much to discuss. Firefox 27 is already released, and we do want to move off of Dev Mode sooner or later for other reasons. I don't feel comfortable asking them to bring back an API that they never officially supported anyway and it seems unlikely that they'd agree. Running

Re: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+

2014-02-21 Thread bruciadmin
This is a pretty important change for me - looks like it's a downgrade to FF 26 a workaround is found. I had never heard of Super Dev mode but sounds like it's still got a fair way to go - and right now I need to focus on ROI for my work (retooling in the last 90% of a project is not an option

Re: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+

2014-02-20 Thread mtr
Couldn't agree more... debugging the client-side GWT code in the IDE debugger (Eclipse in my case) is base of my every day work :( On Wednesday, February 19, 2014 5:37:01 PM UTC+1, Jeff Evans wrote: Can someone clarify what is meant by fully functional for Super dev mode? In my view,

Re: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+

2014-02-20 Thread Thomas Broyer
On Thursday, February 20, 2014 9:49:42 AM UTC+1, m...@touk.pl wrote: Couldn't agree more... debugging the client-side GWT code in the IDE debugger (Eclipse in my case) is base of my every day work :( I'm sure the SDBG devs would love to hear your feedback ;-) https://github.com/sdbg/sdbg

Re: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+

2014-02-20 Thread mtr
On Thursday, February 20, 2014 11:57:30 AM UTC+1, Thomas Broyer wrote: I'm sure the SDBG devs would love to hear your feedback ;-) https://github.com/sdbg/sdbghttps://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fsdbg%2Fsdbgsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFQjCNGpKQKj0nzlbD9UjM3ciaeAEJAb9g SDBG has a

Re: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+

2014-02-19 Thread Jeff Evans
On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 4:30:50 AM UTC-5, Aleksander Gralak wrote: That is pretty bad information for all GWT developers. For now I can stick with FF 24.2, however in the future we need to develop on the most up to date browsers. When do you estimate Super Dev Mode will be

Re: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+

2014-02-19 Thread Brian Slesinsky
Super Dev Mode works and we have many teams that use it. The Chrome debugger is quite good and I recommend learning it well; anyone working on web apps will benefit from knowing this tool. For other browsers, adding a GWT.debugger() call to the Java code and recompiling is an easy way to stop in

Re: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+

2014-02-19 Thread Jeff Evans
On Wednesday, February 19, 2014 1:03:15 PM UTC-5, Brian Slesinsky wrote: Super Dev Mode works and we have many teams that use it. The Chrome debugger is quite good and I recommend learning it well; anyone working on web apps will benefit from knowing this tool. For other browsers, adding a

Re: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+

2014-02-19 Thread Ed Bras
The Chrome debugger is quite good and I recommend learning it well; It depends on your project. I been down this road, tried it several times with several projects (few months ago last one). Currently the Super Dev mode is Hello World ready, but not Enterprise ready With new projects, I like to

Re: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+

2014-02-18 Thread Aleksander Gralak
That is pretty bad information for all GWT developers. For now I can stick with FF 24.2, however in the future we need to develop on the most up to date browsers. When do you estimate Super Dev Mode will be production ready? If it is more then 6 months then we should think of some workaround.

Re: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+

2014-02-17 Thread sabin_97
well. no more gwt for me then, until mozilla gives google access again. downgrading the browser(either by using chrome or an earlier version of firefox) is not acceptable for me. but i can wait. got lots of non-google projects to work on. On Monday, February 3, 2014 8:01:41 PM UTC-4, Brian

Re: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+

2014-02-09 Thread Thomas Broyer
Remote debug works great too ;-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group,

Re: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+

2014-02-09 Thread Ed Bras
Remote debug works great too ;-) Yes, if you have a Mac ;) (I assume you mean Safari remote debugging ? Else let me know, device independent (iphone, android)) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To unsubscribe from this

Re: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+

2014-02-09 Thread Thomas Broyer
I don't have a Mac. Chrome remote debug works great cross platform (tested with Chrome for Android, on Linux and Windows; should work w/ Chrome for iOS AFAICT). Firefox for Android (and FirefoxOS) should too (though I haven't tested it) -- You received this message because you are subscribed

Re: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+

2014-02-07 Thread Ed
Usage example of the chrome debugger (not as part of the Chrome browser): Wienre: http://people.apache.org/~pmuellr/weinre/docs/latest/ (A very nice tool btw for controlling your DOM on a mobile device) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web

Re: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+

2014-02-06 Thread Kirill Prazdnikov
Does the Chrome expose any kind of debugging interface so that any front-end IDE can use and visualize it ? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email

Re: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+

2014-02-06 Thread Thomas Broyer
On Thursday, February 6, 2014 10:03:35 AM UTC+1, Kirill Prazdnikov wrote: Does the Chrome expose any kind of debugging interface so that any front-end IDE can use and visualize it ? https://developers.google.com/chrome-developer-tools/docs/debugger-protocol -- You received this message

Re: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+

2014-02-05 Thread Wayne Rasmuss
I second the bi-directional breakpoints idea. That's the biggest pain point for me with SDM. It stinks to track down some code in your IDE then have to track it down again in your browser to set the break point. If I didn't have to do that, I wouldn't miss debugging in the IDE much. On

Re: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+

2014-02-04 Thread Thomas Broyer
On Tuesday, February 4, 2014 8:05:16 AM UTC+1, Cristiano wrote: Hi Brian, I wonder how does it works the development mode plugin? Isn't it possible to replace it with something in pure javascript that is based on Web Sockets? No, because we need blocking I/O, synchronous communication

Re: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+

2014-02-04 Thread Cristiano Costantini
No, because we need blocking I/O, synchronous communication with the DevMode code server. mmm, good point... can we just block with a while? The only solution would be to use the remote debugging protocols so you can really pause the execution in the browser while you do things in Java.

Re: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+

2014-02-04 Thread Thomas Broyer
On Tuesday, February 4, 2014 10:38:34 AM UTC+1, Cristiano wrote: No, because we need blocking I/O, synchronous communication with the DevMode code server. mmm, good point... can we just block with a while? Because JS is single-threaded, you'll never know when to break out of the

Re: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+

2014-02-04 Thread Cristiano Costantini
webworkers? 2014-02-04 Thomas Broyer t.bro...@gmail.com: On Tuesday, February 4, 2014 10:38:34 AM UTC+1, Cristiano wrote: No, because we need blocking I/O, synchronous communication with the DevMode code server. mmm, good point... can we just block with a while? Because JS is

Re: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+

2014-02-04 Thread Cristiano Costantini
looking at the docs of webworkers and even them don't share any state, so it won't work it too... Anyway it would be great to find a workaround that don't require either Flash or browser plugin or Java Applet... 2014-02-04 Cristiano Costantini cristiano.costant...@gmail.com: webworkers?

Re: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+

2014-02-04 Thread Jens
Anything people can look into to improve SDM performance? For example is it still worth it refactoring generators to be incremental generators or does the upcoming incremental compile of GWT does a better job at the end and it would be better to take a look at other things to improve SDM? I

Re: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+

2014-02-04 Thread Thomas Broyer
On Tuesday, February 4, 2014 11:01:15 AM UTC+1, Cristiano wrote: Anyway it would be great to find a workaround that don't require either Flash or browser plugin or Java Applet... Flash or applets wouldn't work, because a) they're going asynchronous too (Flash at least) and b) they can't

Re: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+

2014-02-04 Thread Cristiano Costantini
No, really, the way forward is better tooling for SuperDevMode to provide a similar experience to DevMode (i.e. never leave the IDE), and even allow setting breakpoints and do step-by-step within JSNI. Oh if this is possible than I'm ok, I was thinking that with SuperDevMode I would had

Re: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+

2014-02-04 Thread Ümit Seren
Playing devil's advocate here: I code in IntelliJ but I must say that I really like the experience that the Chrome Developer Tools are providing. From pure debugging point of view (stepping through the code) I actually prefer the Dev Tools over the IDE because with the Dev Tools I can easily

Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+

2014-02-03 Thread Brian Slesinsky
Mozilla has stopped exporting some C++ symbols that the Firefox plugin relies on [1]. Therefore it's not possible to support Development Mode in any new versions of Firefox starting with 27. As a workaround, I am doing one last release to get the plugin working again with Firefox 24.2 (and

Re: Development Mode will not be supported in Firefox 27+

2014-02-03 Thread Cristiano Costantini
Hi Brian, I wonder how does it works the development mode plugin? Isn't it possible to replace it with something in pure javascript that is based on Web Sockets? Yesterday I was making some test with this technology (see https://github.com/cristcost/gwt-websocket) and it it seems it has good