Re: Ext/GXT/ExtGWT v2.1.0 vs. SmartGWT v2.0
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 6:25 PM, mariyan nenchev nenchev.mari...@gmail.com wrote: Yes it has very fancy widgets but the integration with the server side is killing unless you decide to purchase pro/ee, which is why it is done that way, to show the devs how rich library it is and when they began to use it they understand that they must buy pro/ee else they will code hundreds lines of code to do something simple. No body told me how many steps are needed to list some data in table if your backend is EJBs and you are using GWT-RPC? Dude, but after all, SmartGWT so far is the best among others, despite its somewhat tragifunky API. Yes, for us, who are doing Swing as well, SmartGWT is quite painful, although it intended to be like Swing for Web. Yes, method names are wicked, composing widgets is weird etc. And there is also a number of reasons why they're done this way — hence let's don't regard them as fools — the guys, actually doing awesome job. Because what else on the market is available right now that could solve a huge number of a problems that we facing every day, making enterprise software for the Web? Personally I don't like concentrating on JavaScript horror and prefer Java Swing over JNLP in most cases. In Enterprise controlled internal network we never allow web stuff — there is only Swing and it works rock stable. But it requires very clean and highly controlled networks. Since outside the company, in the wild world, there are anything you might expect, so browsers + JavaScript + HTML is the only way. However, it is horrific way to make UIs, has no real standards, is very unpredictable, slippery and unreliable. So let's better think how we can help them instead, because everyone can bashing things: that's no brainer... -- bm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To post to this group, send email to google-web-tool...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en.
Re: Ext/GXT/ExtGWT v2.1.0 vs. SmartGWT v2.0
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 1:38 AM, mariyan nenchev nenchev.mari...@gmail.com wrote: i had the opportunity to write medium sized app with smart gwt, and for me it was the most painful framework for me ever. Yes, it is. I do not know what are the changes in 2.0, i used 1.2, but i am not will never try it again. Yes. And nobody here likes resource management. And Smart GWT is very buggy. Yes, it is horrible, yes it is painful, but I am not really sure what else exists that would work on older browsers, while having same set of functionality. Maybe one day I have to play with http://vaadin.com/ a little, but currently I stick to SmartGWT: works for me, though I have to roll my eyes and sight deeply at least twice per hour, while implementing things. -- BM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To post to this group, send email to google-web-tool...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en.
Re: Ext/GXT/ExtGWT v2.1.0 vs. SmartGWT v2.0
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 12:31 PM, Sanjiv Jivan sanjiv.ji...@gmail.com wrote: It's quite easy to criticize a library, isn't it? Sanjiv, I remember all that ugly story with you and Ext stuff. And really appreciate the thing you do. But still, what's wrong with a constrictive criticism? I am using SmartGWT as the only lib so far in many projects (although free version :-). So at least I have a right to smoke my cigarette and share with others that the lib is not very brilliant BUT usable, so no need to run elsewhere, but TRY to improve it (that's what I said between the lines, BTW). And you also have a right to listen my stupid feedback and make your own conclusions. :-) Besides, as a little example among dozen of others, folks (including myself) were sending multiple complains to the forum about calendar dialogs that are not customizable, that they are literally fugly: because who would need ridiculously big dialog while editing an event, but widgets are very small and grouped at left/top corner? — all the rest space is for banners and ads or something?.. How to nicely replace that dialog with my own and why this is so obvious thing simply hard-coded? etc. Or I am missing something and this is changed already? So far I've simply either got ignored or being told we won't change that. Hence, if you, guys, won't change that because we said so, then I doubt anyone would waste their time writing any feedback or bugreport knowing it will be rejected/ignored anyway... -- bm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To post to this group, send email to google-web-tool...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en.
Re: SuggestBox doesnt work in IE 6
Screw MSIE 6. It is not supported anymore neither by Microsoft, nor by Google.
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 4:22 PM, forewar fore...@gmail.com wrote:
When I try to show suggestion list in Internet Explorer 6, I just get
Javascrpt error Invalid class string and suggestion list doesnt
appear of
course. IE7 and all other browsers work fine.
AsyncCallbackArrayList callback = new AsyncCallbackArrayList() {
public void onSuccess(ArrayList result){
...
// my function works fine
SuggestBox sbb = getSuggestBoxByElementId
(innerSuggesterId);
// suggestbox value and 'success1' appear successfully
Window.alert(sbb.getValue());
Window.alert(success1);
sbb.showSuggestionList();
// alert 'success2' never appears
Window.alert(success2);
}
...
This problem also occures even in GWT examples.
http://gwt.google.com/samples/Showcase/Showcase.html#CwSuggestBox
Their
suggestBox doesnt work in my IE6
I also created an issue
http://code.google.com/p/google-web-toolkit/issues/detail?id=4544
but havent got the solution yet. Does someone have the same problem?
Are there any ways to fix it?
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