Re: New GWT 2.0 Book
I think it's fair enough for a developer of the framework to write a book. This gives a more comprehensive insight in the framework. Buying a book is a choice to be exercised by us . No one forces us. If it is well written and worth it why not buy it. As far as documentation goes, I do agree that with GWT that's a problem. Actually at time I think it's not the lack of documentation but the comprehensive coverage at some common location. Another problem with jet speed the framework is evolving. It's difficult to keep pace for the documentation (I am a developer and I know how hard it is) All said and done, I do not see a reason for why to get pissed off for a developer writing a book. And whenever we have some tutorial/example to share let's do it. On Oct 4, 10:06 pm, Paul Stockley pstockl...@gmail.com wrote: 2.1 Isn't even released yet so why are you pissed off about there being no documentation! On Oct 4, 11:36 am, Ashton Thomas ash...@acrinta.com wrote: At the end of the day, the GWT community will benefit from the book. For whatever reasons Chris is writing the book I am certain they are justified and reasonable and I am sure he will be able to provide the GWT community some valuable insight outside of buying the book. yes, books may be a little behind development especially at the rate GWT is coming along. So it is understandable that you would prefer to have some more agile and publicly available documentation going on. So your argument is understandable but this is probably not the worst thing ever. A more appropriate response may be to continue to highlight the contributions of people and make specific requests to be addressed. On Oct 4, 11:24 am, Isaac Truett itru...@gmail.com wrote: I think if this makes your list of things to get really pissed off about, then life must be pretty good. Someone who works on GWT gets a writing credit on a book about GWT; that's not something to get upset over. On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 1:38 PM, Tommy Lui tlui1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Please help me understand why Chris Ramsdale (Google's Developer Relations team to develop and advocate GWT best practices.) is writting a book about GWT 2.1 when he works at Google on the GWT team and there's no official documentation, except for a few waves available to the developer community. Is this some way for him to force developers to buy his book? http://www.manning.com/bambury/ The book is due to be release in 2011, so I'm sure it's GWT 2.1 not GWT 2.0 content. I'm hoping that I'm not the only person really pissed off about this. I'd really like other peoples opinions on this topic -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To post to this group, send email to google-web-tool...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comgoogle-web-toolkit%2Bunsubs cr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To post to this group, send email to google-web-tool...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en.
Re: New GWT 2.0 Book
Hi, if you look at the Table of Contents, you can see it is mostly basic stuff and 2.0 contents. regards Kristjan On Oct 1, 7:38 pm, Tommy Lui tlui1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Please help me understand why Chris Ramsdale (Google's Developer Relations team to develop and advocate GWT best practices.) is writting a book about GWT 2.1 when he works at Google on the GWT team and there's no official documentation, except for a few waves available to the developer community. Is this some way for him to force developers to buy his book? http://www.manning.com/bambury/ The book is due to be release in 2011, so I'm sure it's GWT 2.1 not GWT 2.0 content. I'm hoping that I'm not the only person really pissed off about this. I'd really like other peoples opinions on this topic -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To post to this group, send email to google-web-tool...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en.
Re: New GWT 2.0 Book
Just to clarify, I donated my time to submit a few chapters and to review some of the other content that is going into the book. And yes, you read that right...I donated my time. We don't accept royalties at Google. I can't comment on the amount of 2.1 content in the book, but I can say definitively that the GWT team is in the process of wrapping up documentation on: - Cell-based widgets - RequestFactory - Activities and Places -- Chris On Oct 1, 1:38 pm, Tommy Lui tlui1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Please help me understand why Chris Ramsdale (Google's Developer Relations team to develop and advocate GWT best practices.) is writting a book about GWT 2.1 when he works at Google on the GWT team and there's no official documentation, except for a few waves available to the developer community. Is this some way for him to force developers to buy his book? http://www.manning.com/bambury/ The book is due to be release in 2011, so I'm sure it's GWT 2.1 not GWT 2.0 content. I'm hoping that I'm not the only person really pissed off about this. I'd really like other peoples opinions on this topic -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To post to this group, send email to google-web-tool...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en.
Re: New GWT 2.0 Book
Chris, Nice to hear from you. Really appreciate your articles on MVP. Please elaborate more on GWT 2.1 MVP support in your book. Thanks, Yuri On Oct 5, 10:19 am, Chris Ramsdale cramsd...@google.com wrote: Just to clarify, I donated my time to submit a few chapters and to review some of the other content that is going into the book. And yes, you read that right...I donated my time. We don't accept royalties at Google. I can't comment on the amount of 2.1 content in the book, but I can say definitively that the GWT team is in the process of wrapping up documentation on: - Cell-based widgets - RequestFactory - Activities and Places -- Chris On Oct 1, 1:38 pm, Tommy Lui tlui1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Please help me understand why Chris Ramsdale (Google's Developer Relations team to develop and advocate GWT best practices.) is writting a book about GWT 2.1 when he works at Google on the GWT team and there's no official documentation, except for a few waves available to the developer community. Is this some way for him to force developers to buy his book? http://www.manning.com/bambury/ The book is due to be release in 2011, so I'm sure it's GWT 2.1 not GWT 2.0 content. I'm hoping that I'm not the only person really pissed off about this. I'd really like other peoples opinions on this topic -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To post to this group, send email to google-web-tool...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en.
Re: New GWT 2.0 Book
Thanks, it's not my book though. The vast majority of the book is being written by Robert Hanson and Adam Tracy (the original authors of GWT In Action). On Oct 5, 2:06 pm, Y2i yur...@gmail.com wrote: Chris, Nice to hear from you. Really appreciate your articles on MVP. Please elaborate more on GWT 2.1 MVP support in your book. Thanks, Yuri On Oct 5, 10:19 am, Chris Ramsdale cramsd...@google.com wrote: Just to clarify, I donated my time to submit a few chapters and to review some of the other content that is going into the book. And yes, you read that right...I donated my time. We don't accept royalties at Google. I can't comment on the amount of 2.1 content in the book, but I can say definitively that the GWT team is in the process of wrapping up documentation on: - Cell-based widgets - RequestFactory - Activities and Places -- Chris On Oct 1, 1:38 pm, Tommy Lui tlui1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Please help me understand why Chris Ramsdale (Google's Developer Relations team to develop and advocate GWT best practices.) is writting a book about GWT 2.1 when he works at Google on the GWT team and there's no official documentation, except for a few waves available to the developer community. Is this some way for him to force developers to buy his book? http://www.manning.com/bambury/ The book is due to be release in 2011, so I'm sure it's GWT 2.1 not GWT 2.0 content. I'm hoping that I'm not the only person really pissed off about this. I'd really like other peoples opinions on this topic -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To post to this group, send email to google-web-tool...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en.
Re: New GWT 2.0 Book
While we've got your ear Chris, are we also likely to see documentation on scaffolding with Roo as well, or is that remaining within the purview of the Springsource team? On Oct 6, 7:38 am, Chris Ramsdale cramsd...@google.com wrote: Thanks, it's not my book though. The vast majority of the book is being written by Robert Hanson and Adam Tracy (the original authors of GWT In Action). On Oct 5, 2:06 pm, Y2i yur...@gmail.com wrote: Chris, Nice to hear from you. Really appreciate your articles on MVP. Please elaborate more on GWT 2.1 MVP support in your book. Thanks, Yuri On Oct 5, 10:19 am, Chris Ramsdale cramsd...@google.com wrote: Just to clarify, I donated my time to submit a few chapters and to review some of the other content that is going into the book. And yes, you read that right...I donated my time. We don't accept royalties at Google. I can't comment on the amount of 2.1 content in the book, but I can say definitively that the GWT team is in the process of wrapping up documentation on: - Cell-based widgets - RequestFactory - Activities and Places -- Chris On Oct 1, 1:38 pm, Tommy Lui tlui1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Please help me understand why Chris Ramsdale (Google's Developer Relations team to develop and advocate GWT best practices.) is writting a book about GWT 2.1 when he works at Google on the GWT team and there's no official documentation, except for a few waves available to the developer community. Is this some way for him to force developers to buy his book? http://www.manning.com/bambury/ The book is due to be release in 2011, so I'm sure it's GWT 2.1 not GWT 2.0 content. I'm hoping that I'm not the only person really pissed off about this. I'd really like other peoples opinions on this topic -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To post to this group, send email to google-web-tool...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en.
New GWT 2.0 Book
Hi, Please help me understand why Chris Ramsdale (Google's Developer Relations team to develop and advocate GWT best practices.) is writting a book about GWT 2.1 when he works at Google on the GWT team and there's no official documentation, except for a few waves available to the developer community. Is this some way for him to force developers to buy his book? http://www.manning.com/bambury/ The book is due to be release in 2011, so I'm sure it's GWT 2.1 not GWT 2.0 content. I'm hoping that I'm not the only person really pissed off about this. I'd really like other peoples opinions on this topic -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To post to this group, send email to google-web-tool...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en.
Re: New GWT 2.0 Book
I think if this makes your list of things to get really pissed off about, then life must be pretty good. Someone who works on GWT gets a writing credit on a book about GWT; that's not something to get upset over. On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 1:38 PM, Tommy Lui tlui1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Please help me understand why Chris Ramsdale (Google's Developer Relations team to develop and advocate GWT best practices.) is writting a book about GWT 2.1 when he works at Google on the GWT team and there's no official documentation, except for a few waves available to the developer community. Is this some way for him to force developers to buy his book? http://www.manning.com/bambury/ The book is due to be release in 2011, so I'm sure it's GWT 2.1 not GWT 2.0 content. I'm hoping that I'm not the only person really pissed off about this. I'd really like other peoples opinions on this topic -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To post to this group, send email to google-web-tool...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comgoogle-web-toolkit%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To post to this group, send email to google-web-tool...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en.
Re: New GWT 2.0 Book
At the end of the day, the GWT community will benefit from the book. For whatever reasons Chris is writing the book I am certain they are justified and reasonable and I am sure he will be able to provide the GWT community some valuable insight outside of buying the book. yes, books may be a little behind development especially at the rate GWT is coming along. So it is understandable that you would prefer to have some more agile and publicly available documentation going on. So your argument is understandable but this is probably not the worst thing ever. A more appropriate response may be to continue to highlight the contributions of people and make specific requests to be addressed. On Oct 4, 11:24 am, Isaac Truett itru...@gmail.com wrote: I think if this makes your list of things to get really pissed off about, then life must be pretty good. Someone who works on GWT gets a writing credit on a book about GWT; that's not something to get upset over. On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 1:38 PM, Tommy Lui tlui1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Please help me understand why Chris Ramsdale (Google's Developer Relations team to develop and advocate GWT best practices.) is writting a book about GWT 2.1 when he works at Google on the GWT team and there's no official documentation, except for a few waves available to the developer community. Is this some way for him to force developers to buy his book? http://www.manning.com/bambury/ The book is due to be release in 2011, so I'm sure it's GWT 2.1 not GWT 2.0 content. I'm hoping that I'm not the only person really pissed off about this. I'd really like other peoples opinions on this topic -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To post to this group, send email to google-web-tool...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comgoogle-web-toolkit%2Bunsubs cr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To post to this group, send email to google-web-tool...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en.
Re: New GWT 2.0 Book
2.1 Isn't even released yet so why are you pissed off about there being no documentation! On Oct 4, 11:36 am, Ashton Thomas ash...@acrinta.com wrote: At the end of the day, the GWT community will benefit from the book. For whatever reasons Chris is writing the book I am certain they are justified and reasonable and I am sure he will be able to provide the GWT community some valuable insight outside of buying the book. yes, books may be a little behind development especially at the rate GWT is coming along. So it is understandable that you would prefer to have some more agile and publicly available documentation going on. So your argument is understandable but this is probably not the worst thing ever. A more appropriate response may be to continue to highlight the contributions of people and make specific requests to be addressed. On Oct 4, 11:24 am, Isaac Truett itru...@gmail.com wrote: I think if this makes your list of things to get really pissed off about, then life must be pretty good. Someone who works on GWT gets a writing credit on a book about GWT; that's not something to get upset over. On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 1:38 PM, Tommy Lui tlui1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Please help me understand why Chris Ramsdale (Google's Developer Relations team to develop and advocate GWT best practices.) is writting a book about GWT 2.1 when he works at Google on the GWT team and there's no official documentation, except for a few waves available to the developer community. Is this some way for him to force developers to buy his book? http://www.manning.com/bambury/ The book is due to be release in 2011, so I'm sure it's GWT 2.1 not GWT 2.0 content. I'm hoping that I'm not the only person really pissed off about this. I'd really like other peoples opinions on this topic -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To post to this group, send email to google-web-tool...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comgoogle-web-toolkit%2Bunsubs cr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Web Toolkit group. To post to this group, send email to google-web-tool...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en.
