On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 4:59 PM, Ted Harding ted.hard...@wlandres.net wrote:
I've been hesitating about joining in, because (as is
already beginning to emerge) it is potentially a complex
question; and also the kind of solution which should be
preferred is a question of taste, convention, or
Dave Kemper saint.s...@gmail.com wrote:
There may be one in the -mpm macro package (thanks, Sverre and Ralph),
but I haven't been able to get it working so far. I'm not sure if it's
compatible with groff at all: its tmac file depends on something called
tmac.srefs which doesn't exist in
Werner LEMBERG w...@gnu.org wrote:
I remember reading (on this list) a PHD thesis by Han The Thanh (of
pdfTEX fame) on micro typography, although the original is now a
dead link I think I've found it here:-
http://www.pragma-ade.com/pdftex/thesis.pdf
Many thought provoking
All his ideas (or rather, Hermann Zapf's ideas) have been
implemented in pdfTeX. However, this still doesn't solve the
original issue discussed in this thread.
They are also implemented in Heirloom Troff, which I've used for the
thesis of my wife, and which I'm still using for mine.
Yes.
On Sun, Jan 08, 2012, Werner Lemberg wrote:
Yes. It's probably heretic to say but for serious typography Heirloom
troff offers much more possibilities.
Not heretical at all, merely true, as Pierre-Jean's example
demonstrates.
How radically different is Heirloom troff's code from groff's? Is
How radically different is Heirloom troff's code from groff's?
Heirloom troff is essentially using TeX's algorithm (with slight
simplifications, AFAIK) to format paragraphs.
Is there anything in groff that would conflict with implementations
of .padj, .minss and .letadj? Their absence, or
On 7.1.2012 09:57, ext Dave Kemper wrote:
The following is written in the context of typesetting a primarily
continuous-prose work such as a novel.
Some time ago, Steve Izma eloquently posted
(http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/groff/2004-03/msg00091.html) on why
orphans are fine and widows
Hi,
Sverre Slotte wrote:
The web-page http://troff.org/macros.html has (under the To Do
section) this interesting entry:
The -mpm Macro Package B. W. Kernighan and C. J. Van Wyk. Describes
the -mpm macros, a version of -ms that does automatic page balancing.
It was used and acknowledged
Hi.
On Sat, Jan 07, 2012, Pierre-Jean wrote:
Dave Kemper saint.s...@gmail.com wrote:
In professionally typeset novels, when a page is shortened by
one line to eliminate a widow on the following page, bottom-line
alignment is handled in one of two ways (at least, in the novels
where I've
On 08/01/12 08:31:40, Peter Schaffter wrote:
So, dealing with orphans by changing the line spacing, is just
a no other choice solution. You should prefer dealing with
interword and interletter spaces.
Correct. The shortening or lengthening of paragraphs to avoid
widows and orphans
On 07-Jan-2012 Robert Thorsby wrote:
On 08/01/12 08:31:40, Peter Schaffter wrote:
So, dealing with orphans by changing the line spacing, is just
a no other choice solution. You should prefer dealing with
interword and interletter spaces.
Correct. The shortening or lengthening of
On 08/01/12 09:59:46, ted.hard...@wlandres.net wrote:
I've been hesitating about joining in, because (as is
already beginning to emerge) it is potentially a complex
question; and also the kind of solution which should be
preferred is a question of taste, convention, or context,
as well as
On Sun, Jan 08, 2012, Robert Thorsby wrote:
Is there an alternative method that is better/faster/cleaner than
the use of complementary values for \s and \H? For example,
Track kerning, via the .tk request, and word spacing via .ss.
Changing what used to be called the set size of your type (ie
On Sun, Jan 08, 2012, Robert Thorsby wrote:
As everyone knows, when the discussion turns to tracking,
typesetting has assumed the mantle of a black art.
Not really, or, if it is a black art, then it's an essential one
to master, possibly _the_ essential one. No matter where I have
worked,
On Saturday 07 Jan 2012 22:59:46 Ted Harding wrote:
Just a few somewhat random thoughts. I've been through this
sort of thing too often for it to be easy or quick to summarise!
I remember reading (on this list) a PHD thesis by Han The Thanh (of pdfTEX
fame) on micro typography, although the
On 08-Jan-2012 Deri James wrote:
On Saturday 07 Jan 2012 22:59:46 Ted Harding wrote:
Just a few somewhat random thoughts. I've been through this
sort of thing too often for it to be easy or quick to summarise!
I remember reading (on this list) a PHD thesis by Han The Thanh
(of pdfTEX fame)
I remember reading (on this list) a PHD thesis by Han The Thanh (of
pdfTEX fame) on micro typography, although the original is now a
dead link I think I've found it here:-
http://www.pragma-ade.com/pdftex/thesis.pdf
Many thought provoking ideas.
All his ideas (or rather, Hermann Zapf's
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