Re: [GROW] I-D Action: draft-ietf-grow-bmp-06.txt

2012-01-19 Thread tim
What do you guys think about updating the draft to support TCP sessions initiated by the receiver to the router? In our environment, we NAT and FW the BMP server and it's somewhat problematic since we have to build a static NAT for the BMP server and open a FW rule from the outside in. It would

Re: [GROW] I-D Action: draft-ietf-grow-bmp-06.txt

2011-12-14 Thread Robert Raszuk
Hi Tim, [tte] I believe that nh-cost might work providing that it would support a minimal BGP peering session to the BMP router so that the BMP server (receiver) can initiate requests for NH information on specifics NH's that it's interested in, and if it's not restricted to just iBGP/RR configu

Re: [GROW] I-D Action: draft-ietf-grow-bmp-06.txt

2011-12-14 Thread tim
Comments inline marked [tte] On 12/8/11 12:31 PM, "Robert Raszuk" wrote: >> The next hop thing is interesting, but I have to ask: can't you pull >> it out of the IGP already? > > Not possible across IGP areas/levels. > However perhaps it would be interesting to discuss pros/cons of using

Re: [GROW] I-D Action: draft-ietf-grow-bmp-06.txt

2011-12-14 Thread tim
Comments inline marked [tte] > Tim, > Thanks for your comments. Your suggestions for the Initiation Message look like good stuff. I would like to encourage the WG to brainstorm whether there are any other items to add to the laundry list (without boiling the ocean, please). I'd also like to e

Re: [GROW] I-D Action: draft-ietf-grow-bmp-06.txt

2011-12-08 Thread Robert Raszuk
Hi John, Thanks for your comments. Your suggestions for the Initiation Message look like good stuff. I would like to encourage the WG to brainstorm whether there are any other items to add to the laundry list (without boiling the ocean, please). Has anyone proposed BMP extension which would

Re: [GROW] I-D Action: draft-ietf-grow-bmp-06.txt

2011-12-08 Thread John Scudder
Tim, Thanks for your comments. Your suggestions for the Initiation Message look like good stuff. I would like to encourage the WG to brainstorm whether there are any other items to add to the laundry list (without boiling the ocean, please). I'd also like to encourage any interested party in

Re: [GROW] I-D Action: draft-ietf-grow-bmp-06.txt

2011-12-05 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 01/12/2011 15:14, internet-dra...@ietf.org wrote: >This document proposes a simple protocol, BMP, which can be used to >monitor BGP sessions. BMP is intended to provide a more convenient >interface for obtaining route views for research purpose than the >screen-scraping approach

Re: [GROW] I-D Action: draft-ietf-grow-bmp-06.txt

2011-12-03 Thread Danny McPherson
A few comments on the current draft. Thanks Stephen, -danny --- Regarding this section: BMP operates over TCP. All options are controlled by configuration on the monitored router. No message is ever sent from the monitoring station to the monitored router. The monitored router MA

Re: [GROW] I-D Action: draft-ietf-grow-bmp-06.txt

2011-12-03 Thread Robert Raszuk
Hello Stephen, > which I recognize are reasonable for *some* use cases > beyond mine Different networks have different requirements - that is true. However IETF usually attempts to address broader requirements pool. Few comments ... It almost adds no value in comparison with sending full BG

Re: [GROW] I-D Action: draft-ietf-grow-bmp-06.txt

2011-12-02 Thread Stephen Stuart
On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 7:55 AM, Robert Raszuk wrote: > Hello John, > > As we have previously discussed on and off list the current BMP draft does > not meet customer's requirements in the space of BMP monitoring. As discussed, it does not meet some customers' requirements. It does meet others, su

Re: [GROW] I-D Action: draft-ietf-grow-bmp-06.txt

2011-12-01 Thread Evens, Tim
Hi John et al., Below are some comments. Initiation Message: I like having Type-0 (free form text) but I think that some common information about the router/config should be consistently conveyed. My top of mind items are: 1) Router product vendor ID, such as the enterprise OID 2) Router

Re: [GROW] I-D Action: draft-ietf-grow-bmp-06.txt

2011-12-01 Thread Robert Raszuk
Hello John, As we have previously discussed on and off list the current BMP draft does not meet customer's requirements in the space of BMP monitoring. It almost adds no value in comparison with sending full BGP table without any outbound policy by add-paths option ALL so in that light it is

Re: [GROW] I-D Action: draft-ietf-grow-bmp-06.txt

2011-12-01 Thread John Scudder
Folks, Changes between -05 and -06 are: - Added "Lifecycle of a BMP Session" section. It seemed as though people really needed a little more context as to the expected sequence. - Changed Message Length to 4 bytes. (See draft-ietf-idr-bgp-extended-messages-01 for some context as to why this

[GROW] I-D Action: draft-ietf-grow-bmp-06.txt

2011-12-01 Thread internet-drafts
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Global Routing Operations Working Group of the IETF. Title : BGP Monitoring Protocol Author(s) : John Scudder Rex Fernando