Re: [GROW] WG Adoption call for: draft-mlevy-ixp-jumboframes

2011-11-29 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 12:34 AM, Roland Dobbins roland.dobb...@gmail.com wrote: On Nov 29, 2011, at 2:50 AM, Robert Raszuk wrote: I think we really need to have a way to determine PMTU in the cases of switch in the middle having a mismatched value. Shouldn't the root cause of PMTU-D

Re: [GROW] WG Adoption call for: draft-mlevy-ixp-jumboframes

2011-11-29 Thread Roland Dobbins
On Nov 29, 2011, at 10:07 PM, Christopher Morrow wrote: it's not always the filtering of packet-too-big messages though, sometimes it's filtering of the packet because the source isn't valid (1918 router interfaces, to take a simple example) Yes - so, should this document contain a precis

Re: [GROW] WG Adoption call for: draft-mlevy-ixp-jumboframes

2011-11-28 Thread George, Wes
Support adoption. I think that the appropriate way to discuss this without stepping on IEEE feet is exactly this sort of document, which simply recommends a tacit agreement among folks who are already likely violating IEEE law on the matter that they'll all violate it in the same way, and

Re: [GROW] WG Adoption call for: draft-mlevy-ixp-jumboframes

2011-11-28 Thread Robert Raszuk
Support adoption. However I think while the draft is an interesting reading the crux of the issue may/should be really in fixing the PMTU to the extend that if I peer to N routers I should be able to tell exactly what the max path MTU is by automation .. and not by guessing or calling the IX

Re: [GROW] WG Adoption call for: draft-mlevy-ixp-jumboframes

2011-11-28 Thread Martin J. Levy
Hello Robert, I think we really need to have a way to determine PMTU in the cases of switch in the middle having a mismatched value. The experience shows that it's the IXPs customers that are misconfigured. A quick check on NETNOD showed a few that were not correctly setup. This test can

Re: [GROW] WG Adoption call for: draft-mlevy-ixp-jumboframes

2011-11-28 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Martin J. Levy mar...@he.net wrote: BTW: I assume I don't upload a 01 version till after all the discussion is done. Right? I have edits in based on this mailing list and other feedback.   All good stuff and worth editing in. you could upload anytime... it'd

Re: [GROW] WG Adoption call for: draft-mlevy-ixp-jumboframes

2011-11-23 Thread Arien Vijn
On Nov 17, 2011, at 9:11 AM, Christopher Morrow wrote: Given the discussion in the room today, and the current doc: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-mlevy-ixp-jumboframes-00 can we get a poll on the adoption for this document in GROW, is this work that GROW should pursue? Yes, the GROW

Re: [GROW] WG Adoption call for: draft-mlevy-ixp-jumboframes

2011-11-18 Thread Templin, Fred L
-Original Message- From: grow-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:grow-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Morrow Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 12:11 AM To: grow-cha...@tools.ietf.org; grow@ietf.org grow@ietf.org; Martin J. Levy Subject: [GROW] WG Adoption call for: