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Subject: Re: Multi-platform dbus (was: Ige-mac-integration: New version with
Cocoa interface available)
From: jra...@ceridwen.us
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 14:10:22 -0700
To: p
: New version with
Cocoa interface available)
From: jra...@ceridwen.us
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 14:10:22 -0700
To: p...@linuxaudiosystems.com
CC: gtk-devel-l...@gnome.org
On May 18, 2010, at 1:36 PM, Paul Davis wrote:
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 4:12 PM, John Ralls jra...@ceridwen.us wrote
On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 4:07 PM, John Ralls jra...@ceridwen.us wrote:
Will this be merged in GTK+ itself with the impending GtkApplication
class?
That's up to the Gtk developers. I expect that a future version will derive
GtkOSXApplication from either GApplication or GtkApplication when
Le mardi 18 mai 2010 à 09:26 -0400, Matthias Clasen a écrit :
Not really. Its up to you and us working together on making this
happen... therefore, I'd love to hear some comments from you or other
OS X developers on the GApplication branch:
Maybe a first step would be to make the GApplication
On May 18, 2010, at 7:34 AM, Nicolas Dufresne wrote:
Le mardi 18 mai 2010 à 09:26 -0400, Matthias Clasen a écrit :
Not really. Its up to you and us working together on making this
happen... therefore, I'd love to hear some comments from you or other
OS X developers on the GApplication
Am Tue, 18 May 2010 08:33:45 -0700
schrieb John Ralls jra...@ceridwen.us:
On May 18, 2010, at 7:34 AM, Nicolas Dufresne wrote:
Le mardi 18 mai 2010 à 09:26 -0400, Matthias Clasen a écrit :
Not really. Its up to you and us working together on making this
happen... therefore, I'd love
On May 18, 2010, at 8:43 AM, Matthias Clasen wrote:
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 11:33 AM, John Ralls jra...@ceridwen.us wrote:
On May 18, 2010, at 7:34 AM, Nicolas Dufresne wrote:
Le mardi 18 mai 2010 à 09:26 -0400, Matthias Clasen a écrit :
Not really. Its up to you and us working
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 2:05 PM, John Ralls jra...@ceridwen.us wrote:
OK.
It has some useful bits, and seems mostly harmless, but I don't think that
it will get much use in its present form.
[ ... explanation elided .., ]
I'm totally with John on this one.
--p
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 2:05 PM, John Ralls jra...@ceridwen.us wrote:
It has some useful bits, and seems mostly harmless, but I don't think that it
will get much use in its present form.
Right - in reality I expect people to be using *Gtk*Application. So
please look at that too.
The action
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 2:28 PM, Colin Walters walt...@verbum.org wrote:
No - the rename to unix is a misnomer because it has nothing to do
with the POSIX layer, but rather the freedesktop layered on top.
Could even make it gapplication-dbus.c
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On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 2:28 PM, Colin Walters walt...@verbum.org wrote:
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 2:05 PM, John Ralls jra...@ceridwen.us wrote:
It has some useful bits, and seems mostly harmless, but I don't think
that it will get much use in its present form.
Right - in reality I expect
On May 18, 2010, at 11:28 AM, Colin Walters wrote:
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 2:05 PM, John Ralls jra...@ceridwen.us wrote:
It has some useful bits, and seems mostly harmless, but I don't think that
it will get much use in its present form.
Right - in reality I expect people to be using
On May 18, 2010, at 11:54 AM, John Ralls wrote:
On May 18, 2010, at 11:28 AM, Colin Walters wrote:
The action registry is a potentially useful piece of infrastructure, but it
doesn't really go far enough to insulate the application developer from
having to learn more than she wants
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 3:15 PM, John Ralls jra...@ceridwen.us wrote:
(It would be useful to have a (g)dbus-quartz that uses OSX's facilities
instead of dbus-daemon, for example; that would allow the Gtk application to
participate more in the OSX ecosystem. The same is probably also true for
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 3:21 PM, Matthias Clasen
matthias.cla...@gmail.comwrote:
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 3:15 PM, John Ralls jra...@ceridwen.us wrote:
(It would be useful to have a (g)dbus-quartz that uses OSX's facilities
instead of dbus-daemon, for example; that would allow the Gtk
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 3:15 PM, John Ralls jra...@ceridwen.us wrote:
I just looked again at the GnomeLive GTK+/ApplicationClass page, and it
occurs to me that you are perhaps limiting your thinking to dbus:
Definitely not, the intention is that there would be platform-specific
backends which
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 3:33 PM, Colin Walters walt...@verbum.org wrote:
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 3:15 PM, John Ralls jra...@ceridwen.us wrote:
I just looked again at the GnomeLive GTK+/ApplicationClass page, and it
occurs to me that you are perhaps limiting your thinking to dbus:
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 3:35 PM, Paul Davis p...@linuxaudiosystems.com wrote:
Definitely not, the intention is that there would be platform-specific
backends which would use whatever platform-specific IPC is
appropriate, i.e. not dbus.
but its not about IPC mechanism. its about the
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Matthias Clasen
matthias.cla...@gmail.comwrote:
How much platform-specific semantics can there be in 'activate' and
'quit', really ?
what do you think quit means?
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On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 2:54 PM, John Ralls jra...@ceridwen.us wrote:
Where's gtkapplication.c? I can't find it in
http://git.gnome.org/browse/gtk+/tree/gtk and I don't see an obvious branch.
I'll make a branch as soon as GApplication settles down a bit, but
presently the code lives here:
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Matthias Clasen
matthias.cla...@gmail.comwrote:
How much platform-specific semantics can there be in 'activate' and
'quit', really ?
and i forgot... what do you imagine that activate maps to on an X11
backend? i ask because i'm not seeing it.
Oh, one thing I really need from OS X porters (and win32 for that
matter) is a solid recommendation for an application identifier
string. GApplication needs this for uniqueness, and GSettings
requires one too.
Probably the biggest question here is whether the application
identifier is
On May 18, 2010, at 12:33 PM, Paul Davis wrote:
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 3:21 PM, Matthias Clasen matthias.cla...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 3:15 PM, John Ralls jra...@ceridwen.us wrote:
(It would be useful to have a (g)dbus-quartz that uses OSX's facilities
instead
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 3:55 PM, Colin Walters walt...@verbum.org wrote:
Oh, one thing I really need from OS X porters (and win32 for that
matter) is a solid recommendation for an application identifier
string. GApplication needs this for uniqueness, and GSettings
requires one too.
On May 18, 2010, at 12:55 PM, Colin Walters wrote:
Oh, one thing I really need from OS X porters (and win32 for that
matter) is a solid recommendation for an application identifier
string. GApplication needs this for uniqueness, and GSettings
requires one too.
Probably the biggest
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 4:15 PM, Paul Davis p...@linuxaudiosystems.comwrote:
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 3:55 PM, Colin Walters walt...@verbum.org wrote:
Oh, one thing I really need from OS X porters (and win32 for that
matter) is a solid recommendation for an application identifier
string.
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 4:12 PM, John Ralls jra...@ceridwen.us wrote:
Sure. But dbus provides services which are provided by notifications and
AppleEvents on OSX. If a supposedly cross-platform application supports
only the dbus way, it turns out to be pretty autistic on OSX. I don't think
On May 18, 2010, at 12:40 PM, Colin Walters wrote:
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 2:54 PM, John Ralls jra...@ceridwen.us wrote:
Where's gtkapplication.c? I can't find it in
http://git.gnome.org/browse/gtk+/tree/gtk and I don't see an obvious branch.
I'll make a branch as soon as GApplication
On May 18, 2010, at 1:27 PM, Paul Davis wrote:
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 4:15 PM, Paul Davis p...@linuxaudiosystems.com
wrote:
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 3:55 PM, Colin Walters walt...@verbum.org wrote:
Oh, one thing I really need from OS X porters (and win32 for that
matter) is a solid
On May 18, 2010, at 1:36 PM, Paul Davis wrote:
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 4:12 PM, John Ralls jra...@ceridwen.us wrote:
Sure. But dbus provides services which are provided by notifications and
AppleEvents on OSX. If a supposedly cross-platform application supports only
the dbus way, it
On May 16, 2010, at 2:39 PM, Bastien Nocera wrote:
On Sun, 2010-05-16 at 14:27 -0700, John Ralls wrote:
The Gtk-OSX Project is very pleased to announce a major update to
ige-mac-integration.
The modulesets have been updated, so there's no need for most users to
actually do anything
The Gtk-OSX Project is very pleased to announce a major update to
ige-mac-integration.
The modulesets have been updated, so there's no need for most users to actually
do anything except run jhbuild to retrieve, build, and install the new version.
Version 0.9.0 is now available for download at
On Sun, 2010-05-16 at 14:27 -0700, John Ralls wrote:
The Gtk-OSX Project is very pleased to announce a major update to
ige-mac-integration.
The modulesets have been updated, so there's no need for most users to
actually do anything except run jhbuild to retrieve, build, and
install the new
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