Re: the right to rewrite history to rectify the past (was Re: Concerns/questions around Software Heritage Archive)

2024-03-21 Thread MSavoritias
On 3/20/24 19:22, Giovanni Biscuolo wrote: Hello Ludovic and Guix devel community! Disclaimer: I've still not read all the relevant threads [3] [4], so please forgive me if I repeat some information already provided. What rights are we talking about? You are making the same misconception as

Re: the right to rewrite history to rectify the past (was Re: Concerns/questions around Software Heritage Archive)

2024-03-21 Thread Attila Lendvai
> We are talking about social rules that we have here in the Guix > community not legal/state rules. ethics, i.e. the discussion of rights, is a branch of philosophy. ideally, it should inform the people who are writing and enforcing state laws, but these days -- sadly -- it has precious

Re: the right to rewrite history to rectify the past (was Re: Concerns/questions around Software Heritage Archive)

2024-03-21 Thread Giovanni Biscuolo
Hello pinoaffe, pinoaffe writes: [...] > I think we, as Guix, > - should examine if/how it is currently feasible to rewrite our git > history, it's not, see also: https://guix.gnu.org/en/blog/2020/securing-updates/ > - should examine possible workarounds going forward, > - should move

Re: the right to rewrite history to rectify the past (was Re: Concerns/questions around Software Heritage Archive)

2024-03-21 Thread Ekaitz Zarraga
Hi, What are you implying with the "loud" minority here? MSavoritias He's probably talking about the same thing that made you continue being heated after the fact you were told to calm down and you are not wasting any single opportunity to continue answering every single email in this

Re: the right to rewrite history to rectify the past (was Re: Concerns/questions around Software Heritage Archive)

2024-03-21 Thread pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
Hello all. I object to this argument: MSavoritias writes: > We are talking about social rules that we have here in the Guix > community not legal/state rules. No, legal rules come from deliberation of social arguments. CoC-wise, it seems to me that SWH was unfriendly and this is important to

Re: the right to rewrite history to rectify the past (was Re: Concerns/questions around Software Heritage Archive)

2024-03-21 Thread pinoaffe
Hi! MSavoritias writes: > On 3/20/24 19:22, Giovanni Biscuolo wrote: >> Disclaimer: I've still not read all the relevant threads [3] [4], so >> please forgive me if I repeat some information already provided. >> >> What rights are we talking about? > > You are making the same misconception as

Re: the right to rewrite history to rectify the past (was Re: Concerns/questions around Software Heritage Archive)

2024-03-21 Thread Hartmut Goebel
Am 21.03.24 um 07:12 schrieb MSavoritias: Specifically the social rules that we support trans people and we want to include them. Any person really that want to change their name at some point for some reason. Interestingly you are asking the right to get the old name rewritten for trans

Re: the right to rewrite history to rectify the past (was Re: Concerns/questions around Software Heritage Archive)

2024-03-21 Thread MSavoritias
On 3/21/24 17:23, Hartmut Goebel wrote: Am 21.03.24 um 07:12 schrieb MSavoritias: Specifically the social rules that we support trans people and we want to include them. Any person really that want to change their name at some point for some reason. Interestingly you are asking the right

Re: the right to rewrite history to rectify the past (was Re: Concerns/questions around Software Heritage Archive)

2024-03-21 Thread MSavoritias
On 3/21/24 17:08, Giovanni Biscuolo wrote: Hello pinoaffe, pinoaffe writes: [...] I think we, as Guix, - should examine if/how it is currently feasible to rewrite our git history, it's not, see also: https://guix.gnu.org/en/blog/2020/securing-updates/ - should examine possible

Re: the right to rewrite history to rectify the past (was Re: Concerns/questions around Software Heritage Archive)

2024-03-21 Thread Efraim Flashner
On Thu, Mar 21, 2024 at 04:23:01PM +0100, Hartmut Goebel wrote: > Am 21.03.24 um 07:12 schrieb MSavoritias: > > Specifically the social rules that we support trans people and we want > > to include them. Any person really that want to change their name at > > some point for some reason. > >

Re: the right to rewrite history to rectify the past (was Re: Concerns/questions around Software Heritage Archive)

2024-03-21 Thread pinoaffe
Giovanni Biscuolo writes: > [...] > pinoaffe writes: >> - should examine possible workarounds going forward, >> - should move towards something like UUIDs and petnames in the long run. >> >> (see https://spritelyproject.org/news/petname-systems.html). > > I don't understand how using petnames,

Re: the right to rewrite history to rectify the past (was Re: Concerns/questions around Software Heritage Archive)

2024-03-21 Thread pinoaffe
Hartmut Goebel writes: > Am 21.03.24 um 07:12 schrieb MSavoritias: >> Specifically the social rules that we support trans people and we >> want to include them. Any person really that want to change their >> name at some point for some reason. > > Interestingly you are asking the right to get

guix --container is RAM hungry

2024-03-21 Thread Edouard Klein
Dear Guixers, I'm a huge fan of guix --container, and I created a system to use those by default for network services. But the VPS these services run on has only 2GB of RAM, and I just realized that a container, by default, requires at least 200MB. Try it: guix shell time which -- bash -c

Re: the right to rewrite history to rectify the past (was Re: Concerns/questions around Software Heritage Archive)

2024-03-21 Thread Philip McGrath
On Thu, Mar 21, 2024, at 11:11 AM, MSavoritias wrote: > On 3/21/24 17:08, Giovanni Biscuolo wrote: >> […] >> I don't understand how using petnames, uuids or even a re:claimID >> identity (see below) could solve the problem with "rewriting history" in >> case a person wishes to change his or her

Re: the right to rewrite history to rectify the past (was Re: Concerns/questions around Software Heritage Archive)

2024-03-21 Thread Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
> IMHO This is a quiet egocentric point of view. > What are you implying with the "loud" minority here? Hi, "Quiet" is a funny typo here. Also, "peace on Earth and goodwill toward [all]." [1] Please [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74ocbvwam7c