[h-cost] bosoms was: Have you seen this painting?

2006-01-01 Thread otsisto
Tubular to me means straight like a toilet paper roll. Elizabethan is cone. http://www.tudor-portraits.com/Elizabeth15.jpg http://www.tudor-portraits.com/Elizabeth25.jpg http://www.tudor-portraits.com/Elizabeth.jpg my def. on MoaP this is not (though loud) MoaP

Re: [h-cost] Re: Bosoms

2006-01-01 Thread Wendy
The big bosom thing is something I've been wondering about for a while too. I've seen very few portraits, if any, that show women with large breasts pre-19th C even in portraits where the women are robust. Clothing styles definately didn't encourage large bosoms, I know a lot of women who

Re: [h-cost] Re: Bosoms

2006-01-01 Thread kelly grant
You get somebody who's well-endowed to begin with, like me, and add some overweight to it, and I *can't* avoid having a shelf. Even in a modern bra, I've got a shelf. In a corset, though, it's quite a bit more obvious, especially when compared to the same area on a woman less rounded and

RE: [h-cost] Re: Bosoms

2006-01-01 Thread Beth Chamberlain
A few years ago I read a research study discussing the effects of diet on body shape, if I remember right it was about modern diet but touched on historic times (I might have that reversed) today's diet is much higher in fat (which we don't burn off) and women do in fact have proportionally larger

Man's Doublet closure, was Re: [h-cost] Have you seen this

2006-01-01 Thread Nick /or Jamie
Bjarne: It could be exactly as you see it - Three buttons closing it at the top, and one or two closing it at the waist. Note that the entire body of the doublet is slashed into panes. You see this quite a lot in German woodcuts of the era, and not a few English portraits - Although in both

Re: [h-cost] Re: Bosoms

2006-01-01 Thread Sue Clemenger
Uh, nope. Custom-made corset (by me, and it's fair to say that I know what I'm doing with 16th century costuming, at least for myself...got recognized for it mumblety-mumble years ago with an SCA peerage). It's more the effect that proper lift and support will have on a 56G chest. weg I do get

[h-cost] corset construction help

2006-01-01 Thread kelly grant
When constructing a corset, you really have to start with a good fitting basic block. This first step is crucial to obtaining a good fit in the final dress stage. Some commercial pattern companies still carry block, or slopers in their line. Build one in cotton muslin and get it fitted, by

Re: [h-cost] holiday exchange gifts

2006-01-01 Thread roscelinlimoges
I would like to thank Joanne Jones for the lovely gifts that she sent me. She gifted me with a blackwork book, black silk thread to do blackwork with (wonderful thread, Joanne!), and a paternoster (it's even made up of the colors of my device). The gift I was supposed to send out

Re: [h-cost] Re: Bosoms

2006-01-01 Thread Audrey Bergeron-Morin
You get somebody who's well-endowed to begin with, like me, and add some overweight to it, and I *can't* avoid having a shelf. Maybe. But a shelf in itself doesn't bother me. What bothers me is when they overflow over the top of the bodice, or when the bodice is cut so low they actually fall

Re: [h-cost] bosoms was: Have you seen this painting?

2006-01-01 Thread Audrey Bergeron-Morin
Tubular to me means straight like a toilet paper roll. Elizabethan is cone. http://www.tudor-portraits.com/Elizabeth15.jpg http://www.tudor-portraits.com/Elizabeth25.jpg http://www.tudor-portraits.com/Elizabeth.jpg Yes, but those are all later Elizabethans. The conical shape is really

Re: [h-cost] Re: Bosoms

2006-01-01 Thread Sue Clemenger
That would be the Truly Bad Taste (tm) part g. --Sue - Original Message - From: Audrey Bergeron-Morin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 10:42 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Re: Bosoms You get somebody who's well-endowed to begin

RE: [h-cost] bosoms was: Have you seen this painting?

2006-01-01 Thread otsisto
I still consider this conical. http://www.tudor-portraits.com/Mary1.jpg http://www.tudor-portraits.com/Mary.jpg http://www.tudor-portraits.com/Elizabeth5.jpg http://www.tudor-portraits.com/IsabelPortugal.jpg this almost can be tubilar http://www.tudor-portraits.com/TBBodenham.jpg

RE: [h-cost] Re: Bosoms

2006-01-01 Thread otsisto
You do have these http://realmofvenus.renaissancewoman.net/wardrobe/ApotheosisDetail.jpg http://realmofvenus.renaissancewoman.net/wardrobe/Montemezzano2.jpg note she is a bit hunched over. http://realmofvenus.renaissancewoman.net/wardrobe/BassanoConcert1.jpg

Re: [h-cost] More info museum pictures

2006-01-01 Thread rwfranz
Thanks! That helped. Deredere Galbraith wrote: Some more info on the pictures http://mystictimes.nl/Gallery/Gallery.html Roger ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume

[h-cost] bossoms

2006-01-01 Thread Bjarne og Leif Drews
Take a look at the movie : Let them eat Cake with French and Saunders. The big lady is laced in a beautifull 18th century corset, and it is so well done. I have always admired the costumer who made that. Bjarne Leif og Bjarne Drews www.my-drewscostumes.dk