[h-cost] RE: oval metal spangels

2007-03-21 Thread Five Rivers Chapmanry
Bjarne, I wouldn't be using the spangles on your suit if I were you; had you noticed these are the type with teeth to pierce the fabric and then the teeth bent over. This will damage your fabric beyond belief, and given the amount of work you're putting into the suit, well, I don't think

RE: [h-cost] minimum yardage for 14/15th century kirtle

2007-03-21 Thread Linda Rice
Elizabeth, what is the width of your silk? I'm a size 24-26 and 5'10 and can easily make a kyrtle or gown out of 3 yards of fabric, if it's at least 58 wide. Gotta love those simple, no-waste cuts! (There's really no need for a paper pattern for simple gowns like this, in fact they tend to waste

Re: [h-cost] minimum yardage for 14/15th century kirtle

2007-03-21 Thread Robin Netherton
On Wed, 21 Mar 2007, Elizabeth Walpole wrote: I'm a size 18-20 in big 3 patterns and 5'10 tall ... For those with more experience in this area would you expect to be able to squeeze a short sleeved 4 panel (bust supporting) kirtle out of about 3 3/4 yd of 45 wide fabric, preferably with

Re: [h-cost] minimum yardage for 14/15th century kirtle

2007-03-21 Thread Robin Netherton
On Wed, 21 Mar 2007, Elizabeth Walpole wrote: For 3 3/4 yd of 45 wide fabric, particularly in dark gold silk noil, consider this: http://www.wga.hu/frames-e.html?/html/g/gentiles/orazio/luteplay.html I once did this out of two wool scraps that totaled about 2 1/2 yards (OK, they were 60

Re: [h-cost] minimum yardage for 14/15th century kirtle

2007-03-21 Thread Catrijn vanden Westhende
On 3/21/07, Elizabeth Walpole [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was planning to use a modified version of Burda 7977 http://preview.tinyurl.com/2jq7jr but it calls for nearly 6 yards and I don't think the changing the sleeves will save me 2 yards of fabric OK I've gone all waffly in this post but the

Re: [h-cost] RE: oval metal spangels

2007-03-21 Thread Bjarne og Leif Drews
Dear Lorina, You are quite right about this, but i would bend up the points, and use those to sew them on the fabric. Bjarne - Original Message - From: Five Rivers Chapmanry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 10:11 AM Subject: [h-cost] RE: oval

Re: [h-cost] minimum yardage for 14/15th century kirtle

2007-03-21 Thread Dawn
Elizabeth Walpole wrote: OK I've gone all waffly in this post but the summary is I've got 3 3/4 yds of fabric and I need a 15th century kirtle either with short sleeves do you think it's plausible either with or without piecing, opinions and shared experiences are welcome. I know I can

[h-cost] Dyeing pots 350-575 AD?

2007-03-21 Thread Ingrid G . Storrø
Hi, all! I have a question that's tangentially relevant to natural dyeing of textiles in the period from 350-575 AD. I know there are many consummate dyers on the list, so maybe somebody here will know! A friend of mine is writing her Master's thesis on ceramic vessels in Norway in the period

Re: [h-cost] minimum yardage for 14/15th century kirtle

2007-03-21 Thread Helen Pinto
There's a kirtle that show up in the second half of the 15th c. It has a scoop neck, laces up the front, has a four-piece bodice with high armscyes, short sleeves (with long sleeves pinned on), a waist seam and a gored skirt set on mostly smoothly. You should be able to that dress out of

[h-cost] Backing Spangles

2007-03-21 Thread Gail
Just back them with a small piece of your fabric (with applied interfacing) the has been cut to a little more that the original shape of the spangle. Lady Margaret 10. Re: RE: oval metal spangels (Bjarne og Leif Drews) Bjarne, I wouldn't be using the spangles on your suit if I were you;

RE: [h-cost] minimum yardage for 14/15th century kirtle

2007-03-21 Thread otsisto
I have you thought of going Florentine, late 1400s? http://festiveattyre.com/research/earlyflor/portfolio.html or Venice? http://www.renaissancewoman.net/realmofvenus/wardrobe/artgallery1.htm -Original Message- OK I've gone all waffly in this post but the summary is I've got 3 3/4 yds

Re: [h-cost] Backing Spangles

2007-03-21 Thread Dianne Greg Stucki
At 03:33 PM 3/21/2007, you wrote: Just back them with a small piece of your fabric (with applied interfacing) the has been cut to a little more that the original shape of the spangle. Lady Margaret 10. Re: RE: oval metal spangels (Bjarne og Leif Drews) I just got a Be-Dazzler (yes, just

Re: [h-cost] minimum yardage for 14/15th century kirtle

2007-03-21 Thread formfunc
I think we're a similar size height, so some of the layouts that I use might help: http://www.formfunction.org/temp/4-gore1.gif http://www.formfunction.org/temp/4-gore2.gif http://www.formfunction.org/temp/4-gore3.gif http://www.formfunction.org/temp/4-gore4.gif

Re: [h-cost] Re: detachable sleeves

2007-03-21 Thread Andrew T Trembley
On Mar 20, 2007, at 8:18 AM, Kirsten Felton wrote: Not like throwing on a garment like we do today was it? it must have taken an hour to get dressed back then. It all depended on who you were and what your station was. Peasants and serfs could dress quickly. A friend of mine played Queen

RE: [h-cost] minimum yardage for 14/15th century kirtle

2007-03-21 Thread Debloughcostumes
It's completely possible. It will take time, and thought, and I'd suggest drawing the pattern out on paper first, and cutting as many paper pieces as you'll need in cloth. That way you can work it out (lay the cloth on the floor, and lay the pattern pieces on top - trial and error

RE: [h-cost] minimum yardage for 14/15th century kirtle

2007-03-21 Thread Sharon Collier
Not being familiar with this era, would it be correct to leave a slit at the bottom sides,(for ease of walking), if not enough fabric was available for the gores? What about an over gown, the sleeveless kind with overlarge armholes? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[h-cost] yardage for short cloak?

2007-03-21 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi, I'm distant from my books and patterns right now and need to work out the yardage required to make a full short cloak out of narrow velveteen. What would you recommend? The cloak needs to go to the hip on a med/large guy. Many thanks, Aylwen ___

[h-cost] Re: robin's suggestion

2007-03-21 Thread Gail Scott Finke
on 3/21/07 3:00 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For 3 3/4 yd of 45 wide fabric, particularly in dark gold silk noil, consider this: http://www.wga.hu/frames-e.html?/html/g/gentiles/orazio/luteplay.html I once did this out of two wool scraps that totaled about 2 1/2

Re: [h-cost] Re: robin's suggestion

2007-03-21 Thread Robin Netherton
On Wed, 21 Mar 2007, Gail Scott Finke wrote: I have never noticed the arm/shoulder treatment in that dress before. How does it work, exactly? And why is it like that? It looks as if the front of the bodice has a shoulder strap that connects to a string or cord of some kind attached to the

[h-cost] Re: minimum yardage for 14/15th century kirtle

2007-03-21 Thread Leah L Watts
OK I've gone all waffly in this post but the summary is I've got 3 3/4 yds of fabric and I need a 15th century kirtle either with short sleeves do you think it's plausible either with or without piecing, opinions and shared experiences are welcome. Not the century you're looking at,

Re: [h-cost] minimum yardage for 14/15th century kirtle

2007-03-21 Thread Elizabeth Walpole
thanks everyone for your suggestions, I'll have to play around with the layout on paper and see if I can squeeze something useable from the yardage I've got. Elizabeth - Original Message - From: Elizabeth Walpole [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historic Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: