Has anyone heard when these are coming? I pre-ordered, but seem to recall
some people saying they had already received theirs?
Sharon C.
I think those who mentioned they had gotten their copies had actually gotten
copies of the first printing. According to Ian Stevens of David Brown
I need reactions from a sampling of avid readers of textile literature,
and where better to find it than here?
I'm editing a paper on textile analysis written by someone whose native
language is not English. Some of the terms and idioms have come through a
bit odd, and part of my job is to
If it has pomegranites on it the it is more likely the Italian and most
likely not German.
De
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Could anyone who has copies of the blackwork patterns
from the Bronwen's Blackwork link on Drea's
Elizabethan Costuming page please contact me off-list.
I lost my copy of the
At 02:53 28/03/2007, you wrote:
I need reactions from a sampling of avid readers of textile literature,
and where better to find it than here?
I'm editing a paper on textile analysis written by someone whose native
language is not English. Some of the terms and idioms have come through a
bit
I'm not as well read as most on this list, but I think feel will mean more
to the general reader. My poor benighted husband understands that term but
not hand.
Margaret
I need reactions from a sampling of avid readers of textile literature,
and where better to find it than here?
I'm editing
I've seen both terms used, so neither statement strikes me as particularly
jarring. Feel comes off a little more, uhm, casual? colloquial? while
hand sounds a bit more inclusive. Although it may just be my reading of
the words, I'd think of feel as more of a texture reference, while hand
is
I've always used hand and find it much more specific than feel,
since hand does include a sense of how the fabric moves or behaves
when one handles it as well as how it feels--in fact, for me the
handling aspect is more important than the feeling aspect. When I
talk with other people who
Both would work for me. I like hand better, but as you said, this is a
self selected audience feel may be more generally understood. How are
properties different from hand and appearance? Properties such as
hand and appearance would make more sense to me, but perhaps that's
just because it's out
I'd love to help. But without the beginning of the sentence, I don't have
enough context to decide.
Gia
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I need reactions from a sampling of avid readers of textile literature,
and where better to
Or maybe a combination of texture and draping qualities? The few
people I've talked to are not familiar with the term hand.
Patty
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I understand where Suzi is coming from. I'd say 'drape' if texture is
not the issue.
Kate
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Has anyone heard when these are coming? I pre-ordered, but seem to
recall
some people saying they had already received theirs?
Sharon C.
I think those who mentioned they had gotten their copies had actually
gotten
copies of the first printing. According to Ian Stevens of David Brown
books,
At 7:46 AM -0600 3/28/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you read either of these phrases in an article, would it pull you up
short, or would it make sense to you?
...the properties, hand, and appearance of a finished fabric.
...the properties, feel, and appearance of a finished fabric.
Other
Another vote for the hand version. Hand conveys a lot more than
feel-- I guess I think of feel as being part of the qualities you
get from hand!
Astrida
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In a message dated 28/03/2007 14:47:50 GMT Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I need reactions from a sampling of avid readers of textile literature,
and where better to find it than here?
I'm editing a paper on textile analysis written by someone whose native
language is not
Hmm. It appears hand might be too much of an American term. Thank
goodness for this list.
And yes, I think feel is too narrow to capture the idea of drape, which
is something I couldn't put my finger on -- thanks to those who mentioned
it, as now I have something to approach the authors with
Well, hand is absolutely the correct word. But who is the audience?
If this will be in _Medieval Clothing Textiles_, I'd say that anyone
reading it who doesn't understand hand must soon learn it. On the
other hand, if we're talking publication in a general interest magazine,
perhaps the
I am not familiar with the other use of handle, so to me it just seemed
bad English.
Patty
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Subject: RE: [h-cost] Translation
Handle would be comprehensible, but it would give pause to any
native reader of English and, even after the reader had come to terms
with it, would seem quaint and awkward.
My opinion, anyway!
--Ruth Anne Baumgartner
scholar gypsy and amateur costumer (and sometime copy editor)
On Mar 28,
On Wed, 28 Mar 2007, M + D (Mary Piero Carey+Doug Piero Carey) wrote:
Well, hand is absolutely the correct word. But who is the audience?
If this will be in _Medieval Clothing Textiles_, I'd say that anyone
reading it who doesn't understand hand must soon learn it.
It is indeed for MCT,
Well, there's no definition for the way we use the word hand when
referring to textiles, in the regular dictionary. So maybe you need to define
it in
the sentence, like the feel and drape [or hand] of the fabric.
It's a bit wordy...but then you can just use hand thereafter.
At 16:32 28/03/2007, you wrote:
Hmm. It appears hand might be too much of an American term. Thank
goodness for this list.
And yes, I think feel is too narrow to capture the idea of drape, which
is something I couldn't put my finger on -- thanks to those who mentioned
it, as now I have
Thanks, all. You've given me some good words/ideas to work with. I've
phrased a query to the authors and proposed a couple of write-arounds.
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Thank you for the longer versions!
We hope that [this method of analysis] may provide information that will
increase our knowledge about the properties, handle, and appearance of a
finished fabric.
Might I suggest characteristics, texture and appearance of a finished fabric.?
Both the
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I need reactions from a sampling of avid readers of textile literature,
and where better to
Ages ago I made an 1850s dress, crinoline and corset. If I can still
fit into it, I am thinking of wearing it for a high school presentation
I am giving. I would like all the correct underpinnings, so I need to
make some drawers, I know. I can't remember if in this period women
wore
The two appearances of the word:
We hope that [this method of analysis] may provide information that will
increase our knowledge about the properties, handle, and appearance of a
finished fabric.
Both the amount of twist and the twist combination in warp and weft are
very important for
Sylvia, you'll find a free split drawers pattern in the Compendium section
of the site in my signature. Drawers for the 1850s are fairly optional;
once the hoop comes it, they become a bit more common. Corset covers aren't
as common at this point, unless you're wearing an unlined sheer dress.
Are you talking about a full length chemise, as opposed to a camisole?
On Mar 28, 2007, at 1:40 PM, Elizabeth Clark wrote:
Sylvia, you'll find a free split drawers pattern in the Compendium
section of the site in my signature. Drawers for the 1850s are fairly
optional; once the hoop comes
Hand is what I've always said... but I'm a fifty-something American
Mid-Westerner. (Is your co-editor English?) OTOH, just a few years
ago I took a class on Care Storage of Museum Textiles (approximate
title) and we all used the word hand when speaking of textile
analysis, as you have
Good morning all, I'm making a pair of pin on sleeves in imitation of the
peasants in the DaCosta Hours http://www.uvm.edu/~hag/sca/work/ and thinking
about entering them in a competition in 2 weeks time (the theme is 'arms')
but I'm debating on the seam treatment or whether to line them. I'm
In a message dated 28/03/2007 17:53:59 GMT Standard Time,
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Hmm. It appears hand might be too much of an American term. Thank
goodness for this list.
It's traditional British too, but tends to be used by people with some
knowledge of tailoring (rather than just
Here are some images from 1858/1859 Godey's Lady's Book that should help
answer the question:
- a chemise drawing that states many persons dislike to have any
fullness under their corsets around the waist:
http://www.uvm.edu/%7Ehag/godey/images/s5906548.jpg
and one of drawers:
Most assuredly. I prefer mine mid-calf length.
Joan
At 01:01 PM 3/28/2007, you wrote:
Are you talking about a full length chemise, as opposed to a camisole?
On Mar 28, 2007, at 1:40 PM, Elizabeth Clark wrote:
Sylvia, you'll find a free split drawers pattern in the Compendium
section of the
On Tuesday 27 March 2007 9:53 pm, Robin Netherton wrote:
[snip]
The author is listing characteristics of fabric, including its appearance,
handle, and properties. Obviously handle is the word that doesn't ring
true here. My co-editor pencilled in feel. The fabric-user in me thinks
hand, but
Suzi and Donna wondered:
Would using handling instead of handle help?
To me, handling is what you do to the fabric, the emphasis being on the
person. I'm looking for a characteristic of the fabric itself, which is
really how it feels and acts when someone is handling it.
In any case, thanks
This may be an odd question, but is anyone aware of a
pictoral guide or compilation of fabric designs and
colors appropriate for Elizabethan era clothing?
I am having a horrible time finding fabric to make a
new jerkin for my son to wear this summer. I wanted to
have something in cream or off
I am trying to find out the who started the fashion trend of the 1960s long
fringed jackets or shirts for musicians. I am taking about the ones like were
worn by Jimi Hendrix or Judas in Jesus Christ Superstar (movie).
I thought the fashion trend was in the early 1970s, but recently saw on
Last week during my class I showed a clip of the film Gold Diggers of 1933
during my 1930s session. The last song in the film shows the fashions and
mentality of the Great Depression wonderfully! My student that majors in
dance and choreographer, fell in love with Busby Berkeley's
The fashion definitely started in the '60's, part of the hippie Native
American stuff. The earliest fringed jackets I can remember in a band is on
one or two of the members of Buffalo Springfield. They broke up in '68.
There's a picture here:
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