Re: [h-cost] Re: Theater vs. Historic

2007-05-04 Thread AnnBWass
In a message dated 5/4/2007 2:26:24 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The REAL irritation is that film directors (etc.) blithely do whatever they think feels right with the costumes AND then have the audacity to claim that their renditions are accurate, thoroughly

Re: [h-cost]Theater vs Historic (was:new Butterick pattern

2007-05-04 Thread LLOYD MITCHELL
A nearer time period for this study of the constraints of fabric width/usage and its effect on clothing design is the Utility rules in place during WW2. There were strict rules for manufacturers of civilian wear in how much fabric could be used for specified garments. These restrictions are

[h-cost] Re: theatrical vs. historic costuming

2007-05-04 Thread Gail Scott Finke
Sharon wrote: A Knight's Tale is a great example. I don't know much about the period, but most of the costumes seemed okay. Except for the female lead. She stuck out like a sore thumb. I especially remember the hat that looked like something from Breakfast at Tiffany's. Actually, Sharon,

[h-cost] Re: theatrical vs. historic costuming

2007-05-04 Thread Lady Orla Carey
I'm willing to bet that the great example Sharon is talking about is that A Knight's Tale doesn't pretend to be history. Several choices by the director (like the music) make it very clear that it's a fun music so the costumes weren't quite as annoying as they could have been. Orla From: Gail

RE: [h-cost] Re: Theater vs. Historic

2007-05-04 Thread Sharon Collier
I think what really bothers me is when some costumes are authentic or at least close and others are so far off as to be fantasy. The mens' costumes in The Tudors look close, but the women's, with the loose hair, bare arms/shoulders, are further out. To me, they don't match stylistically and that

Re: [h-cost] Re: theatrical vs. historic costuming

2007-05-04 Thread E House
- Original Message - Actually, Sharon, none of the costumes were authentic in that film. I'm not sure what you are saying it's a great example of. Personally, I loved the costumes -- they had the FEEL of the historic period, while they were done in all sorts of weird fabrics, etc. I

RE: [h-cost] Re: Theater vs. Historic

2007-05-04 Thread MaggiRos
That's it exactly. I've concluded that since they're making up the history they might as well make up the costumes too. I've also stopped trying to watch it, and picked up a fresh DVD copy of Keith Michell's Six Wives of Henry VIII from the 70s. What a joy to watch. That show was on a limited

Re: [h-cost] Re: Theater vs. Historic

2007-05-04 Thread LLOYD MITCHELL
This was my problem with the latest Marie Antionette. The women's hair in general was way off. The film people seem to make decisions of Costume that must bow to present aesthitcs...that, and the need to use modern music in case the viewers might have missed a contemporary mood/thought about

Re: [h-cost] Tippet color

2007-05-04 Thread Melissa Brown Muckart
Dear Robin. Robin Netherton wrote: Hi, Melissa. There are plenty of images of backs of tippets, including some in my article. snip snip Let me know if this helps. Yes, it helped immensely. Thank you so much for taking the time to answer my question. I have always thought of tippets as

Re: [h-cost] Re: Theater vs. Historic

2007-05-04 Thread AnnBWass
In a message dated 5/4/2007 5:45:46 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The film people seem to make decisions of Costume that must bow to present aesthitcs... According to Ed Maeder, in his Hollywood and History, that accompanied an exhibit of the same name from LACMA

RE: [h-cost] Re: Theater vs. Historic

2007-05-04 Thread Dianne Greg Stucki
At 05:13 PM 5/4/2007, you wrote: MaggiRos ~who loves A Knight's Tale a whole lot . (grin) So do I. In fact, I just watched it today. Dianne ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume

Re: [h-cost] Re: Theater vs. Historic

2007-05-04 Thread LLOYD MITCHELL
Having been otherwise a about these costumes when the Robbin Hood series began, I do remember the Aghast!!! about the costumes. For me, this has been a low budget series with an expanded mythology re 'the HOOD' that at least is on a plane with the old Dr. Who, and has used stereotypical

RE: [h-cost] Re: theatrical vs. historic costuming

2007-05-04 Thread Laurie Taylor
Hi, I've been following this thread with rapt fascination. I've learned a lot too. I teach costume history, an introductory course. We've decided to expand our use of films to get the point across about some aspects of costume, including the issue of period accuracy. I need to come up with

[h-cost] Re: theatrical vs. historic costuming

2007-05-04 Thread Cin
...the Kevin Costner film that can't be named? ... They went on and on about the historical accuracy in that one, and it stunk. Y'all must read/hear/see stuff in places I don't, or something... Where, exactly, do people go on and on about the historical accuracy of costumes or content in

[h-cost] A great project for someone else

2007-05-04 Thread Lavolta Press
Why has no one seemed to publish patterns for Goth styles? I'd think someone would have jumped on it. Yes, I know that there is a lot of variety but the patterns could include different variations, suggestions, etc. Fran ___ h-costume mailing list

[h-cost] Re:16th-century short pants????

2007-05-04 Thread tearoses
Thanks, Mike. That makes sense, as both of these examples are Dutch, and you do see a lot of German styles there, especially on soldiers. Do you have any other pictures of this style? Or could you point me to a website that discusses it? Tea Rose, who is still amused by those knobbly

Re: [h-cost]fabric widths (was Theater vs. Historic)

2007-05-04 Thread Cheryldee
In a message dated 5/4/2007 6:41:52 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A nearer time period for this study of the constraints of fabric width/usage and its effect on clothing design is the Utility rules in place during WW2. There were strict rules for manufacturers

Re: [h-cost]fabric widths (was Theater vs. Historic)

2007-05-04 Thread Beth and Bob Matney
At 01:01 PM 5/4/2007, you wrote: Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 10:59:58 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] snip Always nice to change the subject line when the topic changes radically.;-) Yes, it is! I have been skipping posts on this topic (Theater vs. Historic) Does anyone have a good summary of

Re: [h-cost] Re: Theater vs. Historic

2007-05-04 Thread LLOYD MITCHELL
And we can all add to the lists where this decision was a blatant mistake...I think Kathlwwn - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 5:56 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Re: Theater vs. Historic In a message dated 5/4/2007 5:45:46

RE: [h-cost] Re: theatrical vs. historic costuming

2007-05-04 Thread zelda crusher
From what I can tell, being a relative newbie to Tudor/Elizabethan, The Six Wives of Henry the VIII (Keith Mitchell) and it's corollary, Elizabeth R with Glenda Jackson (both PBS, 1970's) are two outstandingly well done series as well as my first loves of the period. Laurie From: Laurie

Re: [h-cost] Re: theatrical vs. historic costuming

2007-05-04 Thread Carmen Beaudry
Y'all must read/hear/see stuff in places I don't, or something... Where, exactly, do people go on and on about the historical accuracy of costumes or content in cinematic movies? If we're talking about The Tudors, the Showtime (or HBO, can't keep them straight) program guide. And why do

Re: [h-cost] Re: theatrical vs. historic costuming

2007-05-04 Thread Dawn
Sharon Collier wrote: Ok, I'm curious. What paintings inspired the B at T hat? And I did like most of the costumes,(they felt right, if that makes any sense), just the female lead's stood out to me. I thought that white gauze hat thing was inspired by this painting: