Re: [h-cost] Ear-coverings and wimples

2012-04-01 Thread Susan Carroll-Clark
On 25/03/2012 4:51 PM, Robin Netherton wrote: Cloth headcoverings, some of which cover the ears or neck or both, have been worn in many cultures and for many reasons, including practical ones (cleanliness, weather protection) as well as modesty or fashion. It seems pretty far-fetched to

Re: [h-cost] Winter flowers for New England?

2011-11-24 Thread Susan Carroll-Clark
On 24/11/2011 7:21 PM, Marjorie Wilser wrote: Hi List, I am writing about a winter wedding in 1830 New England. What might a bride carry in lieu of a bouquet? My fuzzy California brain remembers/guesses something like bittersweet, which I assume is a woody herb? Bittersweet is a woody

Re: [h-cost] 13th century: side lacing?

2010-05-24 Thread Susan Carroll-Clark
On 24/05/2010 2:02 PM, Pixel, Goddess and Queen wrote: On Sat, 22 May 2010, Zuzana Kraemerova wrote: Does anybody know any pictures from the 13th century/beginning 14th century where a side lacing could be seen? Except for Spain and Italy:-) thanks, Zuzana Zuzana-- I've been studying

Re: [h-cost] questions

2010-02-02 Thread Susan Carroll-Clark
Greetings! penhal...@juno.com wrote: In your Victorian corset, many of the bones are probably actually spiral steels which have more of the flexibility of whale bone and bend over the complex curves of the female torso better than rigid steels. I don't do Elizabethan any more, but when I did I

Re: [h-cost] OT - Facebook concern

2009-12-31 Thread Susan Carroll-Clark
Shea Munroe wrote: Hope this will help keep our lists from being plished. What does our mailing list have to do with Facebook? It's not like the list e-mails I get are posted there or anything. Oh, and Google has been indexing Facebook (not the other way around) for a couple of years now.

Re: [h-cost] Pennsic

2009-07-10 Thread Susan Carroll-Clark
In a message dated 7/9/2009 11:00:42 PM Central Daylight Time, h-costume-requ...@indra.com writes: From: Leah Janette bear_ja...@msn.com If you decide to go to Pennsic, post to the list. I'll be at Pennsic. I am otherwise known as the editor of the Pennsic Independentand

Re: [h-cost] possibly OT -- Academic Hoods

2009-04-24 Thread Susan Carroll-Clark
Käthe Barrows wrote: The Nazis used pink triangles for homosexuals in camps. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_triangle and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:German_concentration_camp_chart_of_prisoner_markings.jpg Yes, but this is 20th century, as I said in my original post. The

Re: [h-cost] possibly OT -- Academic Hoods

2009-04-22 Thread Susan Carroll-Clark
Lynn Downward wrote: Which came first, the pink outfit or the idea that men in the arts are often homosexual? Well, since pink wasn't a considered a girl's colour until into the 20th century, I would expect that pink for music predates any associations of pink with gay people. The academic

Re: [h-cost] possibly OT -- Academic Hoods

2009-04-17 Thread Susan Carroll-Clark
Land of Oz wrote: That's probably because very few people know, and when you get set up for graduation, no one tells you any of this stuff. I wish I had known some of this stuff when I got my Master's degree. All they tell you is to go to the bookstore and pick up a robe. Then, you might

Re: [h-cost] possibly OT -- Academic Hoods

2009-04-16 Thread Susan Carroll-Clark
Susan Farmer wrote: Quoting Ruth Anne Baumgartner ruthan...@mindspring.com: I've read everyone's helpful replies to this, but what I'd say is: Go ahead and make 13th-century garb and wear it. There is a pattern in Alcega for a gown for a learned man -- but what would a 12th century gown

Re: [h-cost] New York fabric shopping

2009-04-03 Thread Susan Carroll-Clark
Thanks everyone for all the suggestions so far. I'm getting psyched, and believe it or not, so is my husband (who was dubious about the time we allotted on the schedule for fabric shopping, until he realized there was stuff HE was looking for...) Susan

Re: [h-cost] New York fabric shopping

2009-04-03 Thread Susan Carroll-Clark
On Apr 3, 2009, at 8:42 PM, Susan Carroll-Clark wrote: Thanks everyone for all the suggestions so far. I'm getting psyched, and believe it or not, so is my husband (who was dubious about the time we allotted on the schedule for fabric shopping, until he realized there was stuff HE was looking

[h-cost] New York fabric shopping

2009-03-30 Thread Susan Carroll-Clark
Greetings-- I know this topic comes up from time to time, but I'd love to hear an updated take on it since we all know there is a lot of turnover in the fabric store biz these days. I will be in New York City in mid-May and have set aside a little time for possible fabric shopping. I do

Re: [h-cost] New York fabric shopping

2009-03-30 Thread Susan Carroll-Clark
Robin Betzhold wrote: My favorite stores are all the hole in the wall places on 39th between 7th and 8th. My personal favorite store has been having a going out of business sale for the past 3 years...there is one store that sells nothing but 100% linen and they have some neat finds. I just

Re: [h-cost] Need costume calendar

2008-11-12 Thread Susan Carroll-Clark
Thank you as well. They've got a Canadian partner site that has the Frank Lloyd Wright calendar I've been looking for. Some of the US sites will only ship to Canada via UPS, who charge exorbitant fees for customs brokerage/clearance (not to mention just the shipping costs). Gets sort of

Re: [h-cost] Underwear Review of Arnold vol 4

2008-10-26 Thread Susan Carroll-Clark
Glenda Robinson wrote: Amazon UK has it on sale for 15 pounds: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Patterns-Fashion-construction-neckwear-accessories/d p/0333570820 An added bonus is if the book is further reduced before publication, you pay the lowest price. I hope Amazon UK is prepared for the H-Cost

Re: [h-cost] Crespines--the hair net kind

2008-07-07 Thread Susan Carroll-Clark
Anne Moeller wrote: Will this be taught at Pennsic? I highly recommend learning how to do it if you'd like nets made from coloured thread. Once you've learned the basic knot, it's a surprisingly fast and easy thing to do. I've taught it in the past, but not this year (I'm already

Re: [h-cost] Crespines--the hair net kind

2008-07-06 Thread Susan Carroll-Clark
Dawn wrote: Joan Mielke wrote: Does anyone know of a commercial source for actual net crespines, as opposed to the crocheted ones? Like these? http://www.instawares.com/hairnet-nylon-28in-box.401-dhn500bk.0.7.htm You might be able to find singles (or small quantities) at a good beauty

Re: [h-cost] How Many Costume Books/Magazines/Photos Do You Own

2008-04-30 Thread Susan Carroll-Clark
Ailith wrote: snip The version of the FAQ currently on sca.org says that they have about 29,500 paid members, but that's still small by publishing standards. You do not have to be a paid member to participate, however, you must be a paid member if you fight or if you're an

Re: [h-cost] Source for medieval belts/buckles?

2008-04-13 Thread Susan Carroll-Clark
Robin Netherton wrote: Relaying a request from a friend: Can anyone recommend, ideally from personal experience, a good supplier of medieval (say, 14th-15th c.) belts and/or buckles? My friend is familiar with Revival Clothing, which sells Talbot's leather goods, but would like to know

Re: [h-cost] OT Re: Regional accents, was Making history hip

2008-04-05 Thread Susan Carroll-Clark
Ruth Anne Baumgartner wrote: And then there are the Americans who assume EVERY British accent is a HIGH-CLASS British accent. Someone said to me about an acquaintance who does indeed speak with a Cockney accent, I love to hear his accent! It's so refined! That's hilarious. Guess

Re: [h-cost] [ h-cost] Regional accents, was Making history hip

2008-04-02 Thread Susan Carroll-Clark
Dianne wrote: Point was simply that it would be harder for an American to distinguish between regional British accents, as it would be hard for someone from England to distinguish between say, Michigan and Ohio. Those states in particular are a really good case in point. There isn't an

[h-cost] [Fwd: DISTAFF: Pre-Kalamazoo mailing]

2008-03-09 Thread Susan Carroll-Clark
Greetings! Since I haven't seen this pop up here yet, thought I'd pass it on. DISTAFF sponsors sessions for papers on textile/costume research at the International Congress on Medieval Studies in Kalamazoo, and is also behind the Medieval Costume and Textiles yearly journal series (many of

Re: [h-cost] What is a serious costumer?

2008-02-28 Thread Susan Carroll-Clark
Andrew Trembley wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good evening to all of you and hope my series of questioning doesn't seem silly but for some reason I am still having trouble trying to decypher the difference between an amateur costumer (myself, one who has a general knowledge of a topic) and

Re: [h-cost] Holiday Gift Exchange

2007-10-18 Thread Susan Carroll-Clark
Ailith wrote: I'm sorry that the Gift Exchange won't be happening this year. Even though my gift didn't show up last year, I did get a tremendous gift the first year - a new friend. My Secret Santa and I have become friends and are hoping to actually meet each other next year at an SCA event.

Re: [h-cost] middle ages: braies for women?

2007-09-14 Thread Susan Carroll-Clark
otsisto wrote: February. Du Berry Hours http://www.christusrex.org/www2/berry/DB-f2v.jpg http://www.christusrex.org/www2/berry/DB-f2v-d3l.jpg But the man next to the woman not wearing any underwear isn't wearing any either, so does that support men not wearing brais? I'm going to have to go

Re: [h-cost] Heat n Bond Hell

2007-07-30 Thread Susan Carroll-Clark
Greetings-- I am appliqueing a cotton/linen blend midweight fabric and used the ultra bond, the thread is Gutermann cotton thread. The first two appliques went fine- a total dream; I was using plain cone thread for that. I switch to the Gutermann, and all hell breaks loose. The satin stitch

Re: [h-cost] Metrosexual???? OT

2007-05-05 Thread Susan Carroll-Clark
Greetings-- Saragrace Knauf wrote: Okay, this may be a little off topic, but since I heard it on the Tudor Fashion special (TFS) on showtime, maybe it isn't too bad. I heard the word Metrosexual (MS) for the first time in my life earlier this week in reference to what I can't remember, then I

Re: [h-cost] RE:hippie pants-suit vs. Corduroy pants-suit

2007-03-30 Thread Susan Carroll-Clark
Greetings-- Dianne Greg Stucki wrote: At 06:42 PM 3/30/2007, you wrote: By 1971 or 1972 (grade 10 for me) the pant suit was being worn by those of us who considered ourselves very fashionable. I had several. One which my mother made in a gorgeous canary yellow crepe polyester with wide

Re: [h-cost] Re: HBO Rome series - anyone else watching?

2007-03-06 Thread Susan Carroll-Clark
Greetings-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 3/5/2007 8:57:22 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: the bride in the correct colour. NO they didn't! There was not anything near the bright coral red they should have been wearing! What were you

Re: [h-cost] Re: HBO Rome series - anyone else watching?

2007-03-06 Thread Susan Carroll-Clark
Greetings-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At least you can trace the Gladiator stuff to a source: the paintings of Alma-Tadema.They're just making stuff up in Rome. Well, to quibble with that--that's like using Waterhouse to document medieval clothes. Alma-Tadema is no better a source than

Re: [h-cost] Re: HBO Rome series - anyone else watching?

2007-03-06 Thread Susan Carroll-Clark
Greetings Susan Carroll-Clark wrote: As I said, the women's clothes range in quality from not bad to not so good, which is typical for these types of pictures. There are definitely dresses which are more Romanesque than Roman. The more accurate garments (with the exception of what

Re: [h-cost] Re: HBO Rome series - anyone else watching?

2007-03-05 Thread Susan Carroll-Clark
Greetings-- A. Thurman wrote: On 3/5/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Enjoying it thoroughly, less for historical accuracy (I don't know much about Ancient Rome, but a friend who is a Roman reenactor assures me they're taking gross liberties) but for the quality acting and

Re: [h-cost] Norse poufy pants

2007-01-07 Thread Susan Carroll-Clark
Greetings-- Chris wrote: Try Thora's page: http://www.vikinganswerlady.com/ Right name, wrong site. The Viking Answer Lady is Gunnvor, not Thora. Mistress Thora Sharptooth wrote a good article on the poufy pants many years ago, which used to be available on her website (

Re: [h-cost] Name of a hat?

2007-01-04 Thread Susan Carroll-Clark
Greetings-- Kate M Bunting wrote: Susan Carroll-Clark wrote: It's not a vine, it's the broom plant (genista in Latin), a shrub with yellow pea-like flowers. I knew it was a real plant...just couldn't remember which one and the corresponding Latin--thanks! Susan

Re: [h-cost] Name of a Hat?

2007-01-03 Thread Susan Carroll-Clark
Greetings-- Julie wrote: I got an answer from Cynthia herself on the Milliner's list: Heh. I think that one is my fault, at least partially. They really do look like coffee filters, don't they? Fillet is one term, toque is good if you subscribe to the closed-top version, and I

Re: [h-cost] Re: is she pregnant?

2006-12-24 Thread Susan Carroll-Clark
Greetings-- Gail Scott Finke wrote: would be good for the Mary Magdalene list to look at. It's a saint, the one always depicted with the tower she was thrown out of (Robin, who is that? I'm drawing a blank.). I'm not Robin.but that sounds like Barbara. Patron saint of artillery

Re: [h-cost] Christmas gift exchange

2006-12-24 Thread Susan Carroll-Clark
Greetings-- Robin Netherton wrote: What did everyone else get? I literally waited until just now to open mine, since other than some family gifts tomorrow it will be my only on Christmas Christmas gift (due to an early shopping trip this year)-- And got some very cool things! Enclosed

Re: [h-cost] re: The other Boleyn girl

2006-12-22 Thread Susan Carroll-Clark
Greetings-- monica spence wrote: we are doing history in a completely different way. AAUGGH! Talk about revisionism! Lousy scholarship and bad costumes. In other words, they are doing history in exactly the same way as most historical dramas do it, alas. I just love it when these movie

Re: [h-cost] gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

2006-11-12 Thread Susan Carroll-Clark
Greetings-- Adele de Maisieres wrote: Zuzana Kraemerova wrote: By the way, looking at the chimera costumes' web page, is there any historical evidence of this kind of dress: http://chimera-costumes.co.uk/slideshows/view.php?c=43 ? I mean the gores in the skirt (or lower part of the dress) -

Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirt in late Middle ages???

2006-11-12 Thread Susan Carroll-Clark
Greetings-- Adele de Maisieres wrote: Voncile W. Dudley wrote: Aren't gores the ones that start at the waist and godets the ones that start somewhere around the thigh? Anyone know the difference, if any? Well, SCA-types tend to call them gores and modern dressmakers tend to call them

Re: [h-cost] Question about back lacing on an early frankish bliaut

2006-11-03 Thread Susan Carroll-Clark
Greetings-- Ann Catelli wrote: Around 800, when Charlemagne was crowned emporer by the pope, nobody had any lacing anywhere, because the gowns were too wide to require it. The waist line (or other smallest area on the tunic) must be big enough to get past the largest area on the top of the

Re: [h-cost] Need e-copy of TI article on Norman dress

2006-10-06 Thread Susan Carroll-Clark
Robin-- I can help if need be. If you're interested, I also have the original Word document and picture files, pre-layout, that you submitted to TI. Susan Robin Netherton wrote: A woman in England has need of a copy of the article I wrote a few years back on the development of Norman

Re: [h-cost] Drea Leeds site

2006-10-02 Thread Susan Carroll-Clark
Greetings-- Cascio Michael wrote: Hi all, Does anyone know where Drea Leeds most excellent site went? Every one of the pages I had bookmarked from her site is giving me a 404 error and I'm not getting a site when I try googling for the main site. Help? Try this

Re: [h-cost] Secret Santa??

2006-09-29 Thread Susan Carroll-Clark
Greetings-- Dawn wrote: I was going to announce it next week. :) Cool--I didn't get in on it last year, and then was immensely jealous of everyone and the neat things and stories being exchanged. Susan ___ h-costume mailing list

Re: [h-cost] Wikipedia as a source

2006-09-29 Thread Susan Carroll-Clark
Greetings-- Penny wrote: Someone used Wikipedia as a source in a message, so I thought I would add my two cents... Wikipedia is not really a good source. If a college student quotes Wikipedia, they lose points. Wikipedia can be edited or information added by anyone. The website started

Re: [h-cost] 12c crusades clothing

2006-05-13 Thread Susan Carroll-Clark
Greetings-- Lonnie D. Harvel wrote: I have a question regarding the silk. What modern silk fabrics would be good for use as cotes, surcotes, and such? I'm fond of silk taffeta, although you will likely need to line most of the weights obtainable without breaking the bank. I buy mine from our

Re: [h-cost] 12c crusades clothing

2006-05-12 Thread Susan Carroll-Clark
Greetings-- Abel, Cynthia wrote: During the reign of Stephen, there was a short-lived fad for the use of lots of silk, crinkled or pleated in some way(not quite like the later creations of Marino Fortuny, but fairly close), into gowns for men and women that were not only long, but sometimes

Re: [h-cost] Historical Films

2006-04-23 Thread Susan Carroll-Clark
Greetings-- Sharon L. Krossa wrote: Which, again, is why I prefer films such as A Knight's Tale and Shakespeare in Love, which include enough truly obvious anachronisms (such as modern rock music, psychiatrist jokes, modern coffee mugs, etc.), and attitude, to essentially scream out If you

Re: [h-cost] Historical Films

2006-04-23 Thread Susan Carroll-Clark
Greetings-- Lavolta Press wrote: Let's face it, history is neither particularly valued nor particularly job-getting in our society. Tell me about it. PhD in history. Now working as a project manager (a job I love, by the way--and doing the doctorate was great prep work!) My bet is that most

Re: [h-cost] girdle? was:] Photos

2006-04-12 Thread Susan Carroll-Clark
Greetings-- Susan B. Farmer wrote: Their line of thinking is that you have to draw on what was before and what comes after -- since fashion, back then, didn't change just because The Great Design Houses issued their new fall collection. It sort of oozed between styles. Everything before and

Re: [h-cost] girdle? was:] Photos

2006-04-12 Thread Susan Carroll-Clark
Greetings-- Carolyn Kayta Barrows wrote: Sculptors likely did not have live models posing for them as they chipped away at the stone; even when they are being realistic, there was always the challenge of representing what the fabric does in stone, a very different medium. At least they were

Re: [h-cost] semi-OT: waiting for books

2006-03-19 Thread Susan Carroll-Clark
Greetings-- I don't believe in the traditional (and outmoded) female role model of constantly saying, of course, it's only my opinion, it's just my two cents, your mileage may vary, what does the rest of the group think? ad nauseum. That's all about conformity. It has nothing to do with

Re: [h-cost] questions about 1410 costumes

2006-03-16 Thread Susan Carroll-Clark
Greetings-- The under garments should be made of linen that hasn't been dyed. The outer garments would have been made of wool and have been of sober hues. Many period dyes make strong/deep colors, and these would have been preferred. Perhaps there was something specific to the

Re: [h-cost] Waists, waists, waists

2006-03-02 Thread Susan Carroll-Clark
Greetings-- Danielle Nunn-Weinberg wrote: At 02:12 PM 6/28/2005 -0400, you wrote: snip I have to roll the front waistband of off-the-rack skirts so that the hem hangs horizontal because of this. If I had the time, I'd hem the skirts properly. -- Cynthia Virtue and/or Cynthia du Pre

[h-cost] Archaeological citation

2006-02-05 Thread Susan Carroll-Clark
Greetings-- I'm working on a group research project with several other folks, and we're trying to track down a more in-depth citation for some information. It's from the following book: Weinstein, Rosemary. Tudor London. London: Museum of London, 1994 ISBN: 0-11-290495-5 The book says this

Re: [h-cost] historical action figures

2005-12-15 Thread Susan Carroll-Clark
Greetings-- McClure, Kate wrote: I had to snicker over this blurb from the Marie Antoinette doll, er figure: This 5-1/2 tall, hard vinyl figure features amazing Ejector Head Action, and comes with a removable plastic wig and dress. For the 13th century geek like me, the Pope Innocent III

Re: [h-cost] soulletz herigaudz definition

2005-11-30 Thread Susan Carroll-Clark
Greetings-- Stephanie Smith wrote: I'm reading a friends circa 14th c manuscript by Robert Grosseteste Actually, Grosseteste (aka Bobby Fathead--and not Bobby Big Balls, as my husband kept joking) died in 1253. Grosseteste is quite a significant scholarly figure of the 13th century,

Re: [h-cost] Re: playing in period societies?

2005-09-27 Thread Susan Carroll-Clark
Greetings-- The SCA in general does not do period fighting techniques, they have their own style of fighting which has developed from what the society chose as safety precautions (rattan weapons, full armour). You might find some individuals in some areas exploring the old manuals, but that

Re: [h-cost] The Aristocrats

2005-08-11 Thread Susan Carroll-Clark
Greetings-- Anybody seen The Aristocrats? I bought it sight unseen from a BBC catalog and really enjoyed it. It is set during the 1700's and is about the Duke of Richmond's 4 daughters. When I read the header, I thought you were referring to the 2005 film by the same name, which is all