RE: [h-cost] 1580s open robes and closed robes or ropas

2007-04-30 Thread otsisto
I agree. The gold flowers on her sleeve and partlet look to be embroidered. perhaps raised or padded embroidery/stumpwork. De -Original Message- Dear Melanie, No thot those, what i ment was this: http://www.kimiko1.com/research-16th/FrenchHood/1560/MildredCooke1562.html To me it looks

Re: [h-cost] 1580s open robes and closed robes or ropas

2007-04-30 Thread Melanie Schuessler
On Apr 29, 2007, at 12:15 PM, Suzi Clarke wrote: At 17:07 29/04/2007, you wrote: Melanie, What are the diaphanousthingscovering her lower sleeves? Looks like the artist was going for a soap bubble effect or something... Laurie

Re: [h-cost] 1580s open robes and closed robes or ropas

2007-04-30 Thread Melanie Schuessler
On Apr 29, 2007, at 3:22 PM, Bjarne og Leif Drews wrote: Dear Melanie, No thot those, what i ment was this: http://www.kimiko1.com/research-16th/FrenchHood/1560/ MildredCooke1562.html To me it looks really like embroidery, you can even se that there is used deeper shades of silk in the

Re: [h-cost] 1580s open robes and closed robes or ropas

2007-04-29 Thread Melanie Schuessler
just love the embroidery on the sleaves with the yellow buttercups, they seem to me to be raised stumpwork? Bjarne - Original Message - From: Kimiko Small [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 5:16 AM Subject: Re: [h-cost] 1580s open

Re: [h-cost] 1580s open robes and closed robes or ropas

2007-04-29 Thread Suzi Clarke
At 17:07 29/04/2007, you wrote: Melanie, What are the diaphanousthingscovering her lower sleeves? Looks like the artist was going for a soap bubble effect or something... Laurie http://www.tudor-portraits.com/UnknownLady50.jpg They are probably cypress lawn oversleeves,

Re: [h-cost] 1580s open robes and closed robes or ropas

2007-04-29 Thread Cynthia J Ley
Oh bother! Can't remember the exact name of the stuff right now. It was a fine gauzy stuff that was either pinned or possibly sewn on as an oversleeve (I'm guessing pinned was more likely). One theory is that it may have been put on to protect the handwork on the sleeves, but it's just a

Re: [h-cost] 1580s open robes and closed robes or ropas

2007-04-29 Thread Bjarne og Leif Drews
in the centers of blackwork embroidery on her sleaves and on her chemise Bjarne - Original Message - From: Melanie Schuessler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 2:35 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] 1580s open robes and closed robes or ropas

Re: [h-cost] 1580s open robes and closed robes or ropas

2007-04-28 Thread Suzi Clarke
At 04:16 28/04/2007, you wrote: --- Suzi Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Countess of Sussex (I think those are short puffs trimmed/lined in white fur, but it's hard to tell with the tone on tone BW image) http://www.kimiko1.com/research-16th/FrenchHood/1570/FrancesSidney.html This lady

Re: [h-cost] 1580s open robes and closed robes or ropas

2007-04-28 Thread Bjarne og Leif Drews
open robes and closed robes or ropas --- Suzi Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Countess of Sussex (I think those are short puffs trimmed/lined in white fur, but it's hard to tell with the tone on tone BW image) http://www.kimiko1.com/research-16th/FrenchHood/1570/FrancesSidney.html This lady

RE: [h-cost] 1580s open robes and closed robes or ropas

2007-04-28 Thread Anne Moeller
I have it somewhere, but the workroom is in dire need of a clearout, Suzi I can't possibly imagine that evil snark I would NEVER let my workroom get into that state (tongue firmly in cheek) Anne No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus

Re: [h-cost] 1580s open robes and closed robes or ropas

2007-04-27 Thread Kimiko Small
There are many images of ladies in robes, but few of them show how the lower half of the body looks, so we are left wondering. But I think I know of a few images where it appears to be open in the front. However, some may be fully closing gowns, that were simply left open in the front, something I

Re: [h-cost] 1580s open robes and closed robes or ropas

2007-04-27 Thread Suzi Clarke
At 23:36 27/04/2007, you wrote: There are many images of ladies in robes, but few of them show how the lower half of the body looks, so we are left wondering. But I think I know of a few images where it appears to be open in the front. However, some may be fully closing gowns, that were simply

Re: [h-cost] 1580s open robes and closed robes or ropas

2007-04-27 Thread Kimiko Small
--- Suzi Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Countess of Sussex (I think those are short puffs trimmed/lined in white fur, but it's hard to tell with the tone on tone BW image) http://www.kimiko1.com/research-16th/FrenchHood/1570/FrancesSidney.html This lady is now considered in all

[h-cost] 1580s open robes and closed robes or ropas

2007-04-25 Thread garden
Dear List I am making an open robe for my Elizabethan outfit and wondered if anyone has seen short ornamental puffed sleeves on an open robe - I can only find them on the closed robes or ropas. I want to wear my elizabethan gown underneath the open robe, and not wear a loose kirtle as