Re: [h-cost]Canadian (Lattice) Smocking

2007-04-14 Thread Melanie Schuessler
De, I'm afraid we must agree to disagree. To my eyes this is definitely slashing or embroidery meant to look like slashing. If you look at other depictions of slashing, you'll see the same look--lines that are heavier in the middle, narrower on the ends, and not connected:

RE: [h-cost] Canadian (Lattice) Smocking

2007-04-14 Thread otsisto
The white on the black is either slashes or embroidery, so we agree on that. What we don't agree with is the smocking and the gold bits. Spangles were used in period and I believe that there are a few garments that Elizabeth I wore that had them. I believe that they are spangles (there were

RE: [h-cost] Canadian (Lattice) Smocking

2007-04-14 Thread Susan B. Farmer
If I can steer this conversation away from the portrait of Queen Elizabeth, I believe that the original question was about this Italian Gown http://www.wga.hu/art/b/bronzino/2/panciat2.jpg susan (of 2 minds about the portrait of Elizabeth -- I can see it either way!) - Susan Farmer

RE: [h-cost]Canadian (Lattice) Smocking

2007-04-14 Thread Sharon Collier
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Melanie Schuessler Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 9:31 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost]Canadian (Lattice) Smocking De, I'm afraid we must agree to disagree. To my eyes this is definitely slashing or embroidery meant to look like

RE: [h-cost] Canadian (Lattice) Smocking

2007-04-14 Thread otsisto
The smocking would not change the distance of the spangles if you are using the Latticework smocking. http://www.savvyseams.com/techniques/canadian.php The spangles would be running along the ridge of the lattice. http://www.tudor-portraits.com/Elizabeth12.jpg I guess why I am stuck on the