Re: [h-cost] Re: Future ware(gloves)

2005-07-14 Thread Kate M Bunting
I particularly like the look of a three-piece suit (getting rarer these days). Kate Bunting Librarian and 17th century reenactor [EMAIL PROTECTED] 13/07/2005 17:51 Does anyone else find a man in a well-fitted suit drop-dead sexy? Rarr! Dianne

Re: [h-cost] Re: Future ware(gloves)

2005-07-14 Thread Dianne and Greg
- Original Message - From: Carolyn Kayta Barrows [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 2:51 AM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Re: Future ware(gloves) Does anyone else find a man in a well-fitted suit drop-dead sexy? Rarr! Men have to be a

Re: [h-cost] Re: Slashing [was: h-costume added to Gmane]

2005-07-14 Thread Dianne and Greg
something along these lines: http://www.metmuseum.org/Works_Of_Art/viewOneZoom.asp?dep=11zoomFlag=0view Mode=1item=11.15 Sigh..I love that gown. Absolutely love it. I want it. And there is no way I have time to make it before Pennsic. Dianne ___

Re: [h-cost] Re:Men in suits (was: Future ware(gloves)

2005-07-14 Thread Carolyn Kayta Barrows
Men have to be a little on the thin side for a suit to look that good. Suits bulk out the man with a good bathing-suit-physique, and he looks, well, bulky. I disagree. I have yet to find a man, of whatever physique, who doesn't look good in a suit. This includes a good friend who's at

[h-cost] 1740s characters

2005-07-14 Thread AlbertCat
A friend of mine has been asked to get together some costumes for a short promotional film to show investors and others in order to get funding to do a whole film. He always comes to me for period consultation because he has never studied any period clothing or costuming or design. But he's

Re: [h-cost] rayon velvet any use?

2005-07-14 Thread michaela
I have to agree with Suzi. I don't wash my velvets before or after I sew...it seems to mess with the pyle/pile. ok, it gets funky after it's washed; however gently. And I've found all the velvet I have washed looks infinitely better than when I first got it. Same with many people around me

[h-cost] Re: h-costume Digest, Vol 4, Issue 454

2005-07-14 Thread Gail Scott Finke
Does anyone else find a man in a well-fitted suit drop-dead sexy? Rarr! Oh my, yes! For our wedding 17 years ago, all the men in the party wore pearl gray tailcoats. I loved the color at the time, though it is very dated now. As someone who loves historic costume, that doesn't bother me.

Re: [h-cost] Influence of women, was Future ware(gloves)

2005-07-14 Thread Kate M Bunting
Given the (officially) low status of women in the past (though many no doubt found ways of exerting influence), I can't imagine it ever having been the norm for wives to choose their husbands' clothes. As for dressing up, don't forget that before the 19th century well-to-do men often chose to

[h-cost] elizabethan dress trim question

2005-07-14 Thread Garden
Hi, I'm feeling lazy, don't feel like getting out the tape measure, its 12:12am here in Australia - maybe one of you on the list has this info in your head - please don't go to any lengths - otherwise I should be the one doing the work grin - but approx. how much length of trim do you think I

Re: [h-cost] The purpose of clothing

2005-07-14 Thread Robin Netherton
On Wed, 13 Jul 2005, Elizabeth Young wrote: Robin Netherton wrote: I know a scholar who has done two books so far on the significance of the clothing descriptions on Chaucer's general prologue to the Canterbury Tales, if you want a good set of examples of cues that the medieval reader

Re: [h-cost] elizabethan dress trim question

2005-07-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The wise acre answer to that is, how much can you afford? For my Elizabethans I have stopped buying trim in anything less than 10 yard batches and prefer to buy the trim in 20 to 30 yard lengths. As the portrait doesn't show what is happening at the hem (do I count as a true 16th century

[h-cost] Re: h-costume Digest, Vol 4, Issue 455

2005-07-14 Thread Mara Riley
I don't think there were Puritans, per se, in 1740. Does he mean 1640, perhaps? Or, if 1740, maybe he's referring to Presbyterian or some other Protestant Scots-Irish immigrants? -- Mara Message: 1 Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 00:10:49 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [h-cost] 1740s characters

[h-cost] Tunic terminology

2005-07-14 Thread Cynthia Virtue
I've heard people rant about not calling tunics-with-gores/godets T-Tunics but I'm not sure why. The top is shaped like a T, even if the skirt area spreads out. Could someone enlighten me? -- Cynthia Virtue and/or Cynthia du Pre Argent Such virtue hath my pen -Shakespeare, Sonnet 81

[h-cost] looking for picture of Frank Leslie's Lady's magazine

2005-07-14 Thread Deredere Galbraith
Hi, I have found a nice drawing from Frank Leslie's Lady's magazine. But the picture is quite small and since I am using it for inspiration for my bustle dress, I wondered if someone has a bigger picture of it. Here is the one I found online.

Re: [h-cost] elizabethan dress trim question

2005-07-14 Thread Sarafina Sinclair
Greetings, A friend and I did a set of 1590s spanish court clothing for the King and Queen of the Midrealm a year or so and we went through easily 100 yards of trim. You could conservatively estimate 50 yards of trim for this dress and still not put as much trim on as you could. I have

Re: [h-cost] Re: Future clothing

2005-07-14 Thread Robert Uhl
Lavolta Press [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hey, my husband still wears the crew-necked white undershirt sticking out of the shirt neck. That's wrong?!? I'd far rather show an undershirt than my chest... -- Robert Uhl http://public.xdi.org/=ruhl The question of whether a computer can think is

Re: [h-cost] Re: Future clothing

2005-07-14 Thread Lavolta Press
I thought it was more usual to wear a tank undershirt and show a very small amount of upper chest, but I don't meddle in these things. You should see his sandals--he's had that pair since we first met (as college students) and he refuses to replace them. They look like archaeological finds.

Re: [h-cost] Re: Future clothing

2005-07-14 Thread aquazoo
A couple years back, my nephew had a crew neck undershirt showing in his open collar. We were about to do a family portrait, so I suggested he adjust it. I was informed that it was an intentional look. Better that than boxeer shprts showing, I guess! :-) -Carol I thought it

[h-cost] Alen/ell?

2005-07-14 Thread Lauren Walker
Hi, Going through my copy of _Woven into the Earth_ with a calculator this time, since I still think in inches, not centimeters. Ostergard writes that the ell (alen) as referred to in the Gragas manuscript was about 19.29 inches -- or roughly 1/2 modern yard. I have heard elsewhere that the

Re: [h-cost] Future clothing trends?

2005-07-14 Thread Dawn
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder if there is a trend that if a person is in a job that produces something tangible, they can dress more casually? The professional dressed ones are either managers, or sellers of the product, but don't produce anything. What I've seen in recent years is

Re: [h-cost] RE: Tunic terminology

2005-07-14 Thread Cynthia Virtue
Marc Carlson wrote: Let's first establish what a tunic is: according to the Oxford Mnglish Dictionary and Middle English Dictionary, a Tunic (for the middle ages at least) is A garment resembling a shirt or a gown, worn by both sexes among the Greeks and Romans (OED), In Old English and

[h-cost] Re: elizabethan dress trimm question

2005-07-14 Thread Kiloran
Forgive me for being dense, but I know I've seen that portrait before. I just can't for the life of me remember who it is. Could someone ID it for me? And does anyone have a link to a larger version of the portrait? As for the yardage of trim required, my rule is to guestimate generously and

Re: [h-cost] RE: Tunic terminology

2005-07-14 Thread Adele de Maisieres
Charlene Charette wrote: My understanding is (and it may be flawed of course) is that T-tunic has traditionally referred to the fold over cut and sew up the side, but otherwise unconstructed sort of tunic. When you start attaching sleeves, or sticking in gores, you are making a constructed

Re: [h-cost] velveteen

2005-07-14 Thread Adele de Maisieres
Bjarne og Leif Drews wrote: Now, i have ben on this list for long, so please forgive my ignorance but what is the difference between velveteen and velvet? I only know the rayon velvet and cotton velvet. Did i miss something? Oo, oo! Pick me! I know this one! In velvet, the pile is formed

Re: [h-cost] RE: Tunic terminology

2005-07-14 Thread Adele de Maisieres
Adele de Maisieres wrote: pount for descriding something I'm clearly having one of those days. But I'd like to define the word descride as-- v.t. to describe dismissively or unkindly. -- Adele de Maisieres - Quot homines, tot sententiae.

Re: [h-cost] RE: Tunic terminology

2005-07-14 Thread Cynthia Virtue
Adele de Maisieres wrote: People here practically use t-tunic as a techinical term. It means a basic tunic with a rectangular front and back, unshaped sleeve heads, small square gussets at the armpit and two-piece gores in the side-seam. Great shorthand when you want to use that as a

Re: [h-cost] Re: Future ware(gloves)

2005-07-14 Thread Pam Dotson
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Re: [h-cost] Re: Future ware(gloves)

2005-07-14 Thread Sue Clemenger
It's more of an issue with me, as well, but in my case, it's more of a bust issue than tummy, which I take care of with gores. When I wrote that this morning, what I was picturing was not only all the folk I know in the SCA who wear I don't give a [EMAIL PROTECTED] if it's old and grody, you

Re: [h-cost] Re: Future ware(gloves)

2005-07-14 Thread David S. Mallinak
An interesting book on this subject is Uniforms: Why We Are What We Wear, by Paul Fussell, Mariner Books, 2002. Your humble and obediant servant, David S Mallinak ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com