Re: [h-cost] Miss Universe 2011 national costumes
What on earth is Miss Ireland wearing? And Miss Spain should be really mad at somebody... Liadain THL Liadain ni Mhordha, OFO Practical Blackwork Designs http://practicalblackwork.com http://practical-blackwork.blogspot.com You get a wonderful view from the point of no return... -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of annbw...@aol.com Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 4:18 PM To: h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] Miss Universe 2011 national costumes Wow--that's something. Some of the African and Latin-Caribbean ones make a certain amount of sense--the latter very carnival-looking. But what's with Miss Australia? Is that supposed to be the Great Barrier Reef? Ann Wass ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Miss Universe 2011 national costumes
Great links, thank you! The Telegraph has a second set of 2011 costume pix. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/worldnews/8753493/ More-Miss-Universe-2011-national-costumes.html It's a far cry from the quasi-historic things they used to do. I like how many of them seem to be Carnival costumes. -Carol On Sep 12, 2011, at 3:54 PM, Cin wrote: Check out the ridiculous national costumes from this year's Miss Universe pagent: http://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/62603630.html There are other websites with a small selection of pics, but this LJ entry has lots lots. Its possible that you'll need an LJ handle to see them all. If you'd rather had just a small set that's not on LJ, here's the Telegraph's gallery. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/worldnews/8749932/ Miss-Universe-2011-national-costumes.html ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Miss Universe 2011 national costumes
On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Carol Kocian aqua...@patriot.net wrote: Great links, thank you! The Telegraph has a second set of 2011 costume pix. You're very welcome! I dont think Miss France has her skirt on straight. Sad. --cin Cynthia Barnes cinbar...@gmail.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Miss Universe 2011 national costumes
I dont think Miss France has her skirt on straight. At least she has a skirt! Many of them don't. Ann Wass -Original Message- From: Cin cinbar...@gmail.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Mon, Sep 12, 2011 6:40 pm Subject: Re: [h-cost] Miss Universe 2011 national costumes On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Carol Kocian aqua...@patriot.net wrote: Great links, thank you! The Telegraph has a second set of 2011 costume pix. You're very welcome! I dont think Miss France has her skirt on straight. Sad. -cin ynthia Barnes inbar...@gmail.com __ -costume mailing list -cost...@mail.indra.com ttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] a question about passementerie
Hello the list! I recently finished a garment which can best be described as the bastard offspring of a giermak and a kontusz (15th-16th c. Polish). I think it is nifty and I want to make more. And I like the look of metallic braid, so I would like to continue to use it for the decoration on the front, but inevitably the sort of braid I find wants to come apart on me. My question is, what should I do, in future, to finish the ends of the braid so that they do not unravel? This first construction used Elmer's glue (it was what was to hand) and that is obviously the wrong answer if one ever plans on washing the garment. Many thanks, Jen ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] a question about passementerie
At 03:56 PM 9/12/2011, you wrote: Hello the list! I recently finished a garment which can best be described as the bastard offspring of a giermak and a kontusz (15th-16th c. Polish). I think it is nifty and I want to make more. And I like the look of metallic braid, so I would like to continue to use it for the decoration on the front, but inevitably the sort of braid I find wants to come apart on me. My question is, what should I do, in future, to finish the ends of the braid so that they do not unravel? This first construction used Elmer's glue (it was what was to hand) and that is obviously the wrong answer if one ever plans on washing the garment. Many thanks, Jen I've stitched (by hand) several times across the end of the piece of braid and then soaked the area of the stitching with Fray Check. I always tried to have the ends of the braids in a seam or otherwise enclosed. Plus, don't trim the ends too short or they will pull out of the seam, even with Fray Check. Joan Jurancich joa...@surewest.net ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Miss Universe 2011 national costumes
Thank Cin for the link. The show airs tonight on NBC. Penny Ladnier, owner The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 15 websites of fashion, costume, and textile history FaceBook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Costume-Gallery-Websites/107498415961579 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] a question about passementerie
My question is, what should I do, in future, to finish the ends of the braid so that they do not unravel? I haven't ever tried this, but I read years ago about a designer who actually buries the ends of the trims in the fabric--bascially using them like giant threads and pulling the ends through to the wrong side. Ann Wass -Original Message- From: Joan Jurancich joa...@surewest.net To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Mon, Sep 12, 2011 7:34 pm Subject: Re: [h-cost] a question about passementerie At 03:56 PM 9/12/2011, you wrote: Hello the list! I recently finished a garment which can best be described as the bastard offspring of a giermak and a kontusz (15th-16th c. Polish). I think it is nifty and I want to make more. And I like the look of metallic braid, so I would like to continue to use it for the decoration on the front, but inevitably the sort of braid I find wants to come apart on me. My question is, what should I do, in future, to finish the ends of the braid so that they do not unravel? This first construction used Elmer's glue (it was what was to hand) and that is obviously the wrong answer if one ever plans on washing the garment. Many thanks, Jen I've stitched (by hand) several times across the end of the piece of raid and then soaked the area of the stitching with Fray Check. I lways tried to have the ends of the braids in a seam or otherwise nclosed. Plus, don't trim the ends too short or they will pull out f the seam, even with Fray Check. oan Jurancich oa...@surewest.net __ -costume mailing list -cost...@mail.indra.com ttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] a question about passementerie
On Sep 12, 2011, at 8:16 PM, annbw...@aol.com wrote: I haven't ever tried this, but I read years ago about a designer who actually buries the ends of the trims in the fabric--bascially using them like giant threads and pulling the ends through to the wrong side. Ann Wass Kenneth King has a technique where he separates the elements at the end and does various things with them — spirals, squiggles, etc. And he did pull the end of each element through the fabric, too. -Carol ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Miss Universe 2011 national costumes
Especially the whole scimitar thing for Miss Ireland. Poor lass... scimitars weren't used by the Irish. Poor Miss Nigeria. I really liked Miss Sri Lanka, Miss Neatherlands, Miss Georgia, Miss El Salvador, and Miss Denmark! Natalie On 9/12/2011 6:29 PM, Tracy Thallas wrote: What on earth is Miss Ireland wearing? And Miss Spain should be really mad at somebody... Liadain THL Liadain ni Mhordha, OFO Practical Blackwork Designs http://practicalblackwork.com http://practical-blackwork.blogspot.com You get a wonderful view from the point of no return... ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Miss Universe 2011 national costumes
thanks, Cin, for a really fun half-hour!!! let's see... yes, lots of them look like overblown las vegas showgirls, esp. the Carnivale types. And so many are completely made-up, even for countries that used to have national costume! wow, saw a website with the 2010 national costumes -- this year's are MUCH more television-spectacle-friendly the ones we thought looked like they actually had something to do with the culture of the country in question? LONG and opinionated! 8-) EUROPE: Miss Denmark is... Miss Hans Chr. Anderson???, late 1700s/Marie Antoinette??? but very cute girl and the ringlets look great. Miss Estonia appears to include some interesting elements, accurate to various periods (like the shoes!) Miss Greece looks fantastic Is Miss Hungary supposed to look somehow like the cavalry, and its horses??? that headdress??? doesn't look much like my Kate Seredy books! Miss Ireland... is supposed to be somebody's hallucination of ancient Celts poor thing. the collection of costumes from Eastern Europe the Stans in all-white is interesting: Albania, Georgia, Kazakhstan, Kosovo, Montenegro, Poland, Russia, Serbia (Croatia -- urg) real 19thC national costume style -- Miss Slovak Republic, Kosovo, Portugal AFRICA: Miss Botswana was a real cutie; anybody know what the smashed-bucket-on-the-stick presents? most of the rest of the Africans were pretty fantastical; although actually, I think Miss Nigeria's red bead armor and pointy-hat thing look definitely like something real I've seen somewhere MIDDLE EAST: Miss Egypt is channeling Elizabeth Taylor; Miss Lebanon's was quite pretty and decently covered-up; Miss Turkey certainly looked secular! Miss Israel has a pretty face, but the costume just looks like an evening gown. ASIA: Misses China, Indonesia, Malaysia, Singapore, Thailand really look great, full of real elements! Miss Japan looked so manga in that photo! Liked the volume of Maori in Miss New Zealand, too! WESTERN HEMISPHERE: Miss Canada has a great expression, although an interesting mixture of West Coast on the torso, Hudson Bay Blanket on the skirt, and Plains Indian (?) headdress Miss Costa Rica looks historically indigenous, not exactly identifiable, but a good pose; most of the others that took indigenous elements from Central South America were too fantastical for our taste. Miss Guatemala's hiking shorts were a good overall look, but feels more eastern European than Central American somehow! completely ridiculous as a national costume, but I liked it: Miss Columbia's Carmen Miranda get-up (black-n-white stripes with big red flowers, huge ruffles) Miss Venezuela's wings(?) were marvelous, is this the only non-feather Carnivale design? MAMA, DON'T LET YOUR BABIES WEAR: Miss Belgium; Miss Chile (oh! the miners?); Miss Czech Republic; Miss El Salvador does not actually look very happy with her... velvet ruffles???; Miss France obviously never put on her costume before?; WHAT is Miss Great Britain's outfit to represent, anybody have any idea?; Miss Ireland; Miss Netherland's ship headdress. Is Miss Spain supposed to have a Flamenco dress? Miss Tanzania (the gold armor, with spikes) Miss USA-USA-USA -- oh my. yes, that was fun! chimene co. On Sep 12, 2011, at 12:54 PM, Cin wrote: Check out the ridiculous national costumes from this year's Miss Universe pagent: http://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/62603630.html There are other websites with a small selection of pics, but this LJ entry has lots lots. Its possible that you'll need an LJ handle to see them all. If you'd rather had just a small set that's not on LJ, here's the Telegraph's gallery. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/worldnews/8749932/Miss-Universe-2011-national-costumes.html --cin Cynthia Barnes cinbar...@gmail.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Miss Universe 2011 national costumes
I am wondering what Miss India had on her costume that couldn't clear customs. Any guesses Penny Ladnier, owner The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 15 websites of fashion, costume, and textile history FaceBook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Costume-Gallery-Websites/107498415961579 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Miss Universe 2011 national costumes
I was so disappointed me that the TV show only showed the top ten costumes. I missed it because I was also watching So You Think You Can Dance during commercials. So who wore the top ten costumes? Penny Ladnier, owner The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 15 websites of fashion, costume, and textile history FaceBook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Costume-Gallery-Websites/107498415961579 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] New Pattern Company?
Does anyone know anything about historicalclothingpatterns.com? There's no information about the creator(s) of these patterns, no background, credentials, experience, or location. There's no mailing address or phone number, and the email says it's for sales queries only. They seem to be specializing in movie costume knock-offs. Margo ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
