Yeah, remember here in California, people voted "The Terminator" into the
office of governor. And when I was a kid, I remember hearing one adult say
she was voting for Ronald Reagan for governor because he always played such
nice guys in movies and she was sure he was just like that! Even as a kid,
On Sun, 23 Apr 2006, Susan Carroll-Clark wrote:
> I don't even want to think about what church historians and
> Renaissance historians are going to go through when the Da Vinci Code
> movie comes out. There are going to be an awful lot of people who
> will think it's entirely factual.
I'm alrea
What you're looking for can easily be found in the following two or
three patterns, all by Kannik's Korner, historically accurate with excellent
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I don't even want to think about what church historians and Renaissance
historians are going to go through when the Da Vinci Code movie comes
out. There are going to be an awful lot of people who will think it's
entirely factual.
So what? There are a great many fields which you and I know
On Friday 21 April 2006 9:45 pm, Chris Laning wrote:
> At 8:43 AM -0700 4/21/06, Chris wrote:
> >Forgot...I was completely blown away by the plaids they've found as
> >well...reminds me of the Stewart 'hunting' plaid, but regardless,
> >it's absolutely BEAUTIFUL!!! Wait until you see it!
>
> Yes,
Remember Julie Christie's hair in "Dr. Zhivago"?
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Behalf Of Chris Laning
Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 3:56 PM
To: Historical Costume
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Movies, was: Knight's Tale
At 6:22 PM -0400 4/23/06, Ruth Anne
In a message dated 4/23/2006 7:46:07 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
But if more movie goers didn't use movies as if they were reliable
sources of history...
**
If only they would not use them as a reliable source of anything. Many
people REALLY
Greetings--
Lavolta Press wrote:
Let's face it, history is neither particularly valued nor particularly
job-getting in our society.
Tell me about it. PhD in history. Now working as a project manager (a
job I love, by the way--and doing the doctorate was great prep work!)
My bet is that most
One of the best examples of this is perhaps the best King Arthur movie
ever made, the immortal "Monty Python and the Holy Grail." The more you
know about Arthurian legend and medieval history, the funnier it
gets--although it's pretty funny even without a jot of knowledge about
either.
Sus
The problem, as I said, "is when audiences believe what they see in
films". The solution to that is to try to get more people to understand
the nature of films -- such as that they are inevitably inaccurate --
and thus the appropriate and inappropriate uses of films, and to stop
using them in
A friend and I once costumed "The Seagull". The director wanted it period
(1904)and had an idea of what he wanted the women's costumes to look like.
My friend and I brought in dress after dress. He kept rejecting them.
Finally, he borrowed a couple of dresses from a friend of his, to show us.
They
I had never before heard about TFWNSNBU, so didn't know if it was
superstition or a critique. :-)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Sharon L. Krossa
Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 2:20 PM
To: Historical Costume
Subject: [h-cost] Historical Film
Oh, if you click on the second pic listed here, it does an extreme
close-up. I notice that her partlet is tied with one tie, threaded through
double holes on each side. My current has 2 ties and they get tangled. I
love this list.
Sharon :-)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [
In a message dated 4/23/2006 6:17:21 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
but I think the dating of the chest was
absolutely precise. Most people nowadays (and, I promise you, my
college students included) think of time in only a few categories: the
future, now, their pa
In a message dated 4/23/2006 12:14:21 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The wore their own repro 18thC uniforms
***
And not paid any rental fee probably.
It was pretty forgettable. And not even about the "ideology" of the
revolution, But just about [pe
At 6:22 PM -0400 4/23/06, Ruth Anne Baumgartner wrote:
... everything blends together into the look of Yore. That's why
hennins, for example, seem to be appropriate headgear for The Merry
Wives of Windsor?!?!?! etc.
Thank you for a very useful term! "Yore" it is.
On Apr 23, 2006, at 5:44 PM,
At 3:34 PM -0700 4/23/06, Lavolta Press wrote:
Because the problem isn't that films are inaccurate -- the problem
is when audiences believe what they see in films.
On the other hand, the benefit is that films, novels, and other
forms of fiction have gotten many people interested in historical
s
Because the problem isn't that films are inaccurate -- the problem is
when audiences believe what they see in films.
On the other hand, the benefit is that films, novels, and other forms of
fiction have gotten many people interested in historical subjects who
might well not have given them a
I'm not now and never was a fan of the TV show "Friends," but it did
yield one relevant cultural insight:
One of the women was moving in with another one who loved antiques
(Phoebe?). The new roommate (Monica?) bought a piece of furniture--an
apothecary's chest, I think-- from Pottery Barn, o
Greetings--
Sharon L. Krossa wrote:
Which, again, is why I prefer films such as A Knight's Tale and
Shakespeare in Love, which include enough truly obvious anachronisms
(such as modern rock music, psychiatrist jokes, modern coffee mugs,
etc.), and attitude, to essentially scream out "If you us
At 8:35 PM -0400 4/21/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Designers often use styles from the whole century all at once without
following the time line. They seem to do this more in the 18th
century than any
other.
I don't think they do it more in the 18th century than any other -- I
think rather tha
At 9:30 AM -0400 4/22/06, Gail & Scott Finke wrote:
Sharon wrote:
> No, the other Mel Gibson Scottish film.
I always thought The Film Whose Name Shall Not Be Uttered was the one with
the title ending "Prince of Thieves."
Around here, anyway.
Sorry if I caused any palpitations by writing even
At 12:12 PM -0400 4/23/06, Carol Kocian wrote:
"Braveheart"
SharonC., who says "Macbeth" backstage too, and doesn't spit, turn around,
go out and come back in, etc.
I quite happily say Macbeth, and I don't really care if anyone else
says in my presence the name of That Film Whose Name Shall No
At 5:53 AM -0400 4/22/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 4/22/06 6:05:50 AM GMT Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> No, the other Mel Gibson Scottish film.
ah - but william wallace took York, you know;-)
[For those who don't know -- and there is no reason why most of
The problem with bleach is that it likes to eat the fibers. Though one
washing shouldn't cause to much problem.
RIT has a product that is designed to remove bled in dyes. Try a bit on the
spot and then wash it in the product. I have found this works most of the
time.
If it is actually mold, I have
Carolyn,
What you're looking for can easily be found in the following two or
three patterns, all by Kannik's Korner, historically accurate with excellent
engineering, historical and sewing notes, all of which we carry, and can be
viewed, and purchased, at: http://www.5rivers.org/en-gb/dept
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From: "Dawn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Yes, in the movie that was the nickname for the separatist/rebellion
fighters, because of the long brown leather coats they wore.
It's also turned into the nickname for fans of Firefly/Serenity... there are
Browncoat Balls, and ther
Help!!! - I washed the wool crepe for my son's new
garb, as suggested - in cold water and air dried. The
gold for the doublet and slop panes came out fine, but
the burgundy for the slop underlay has turned out
looking like a fuzzy wool blanket!!! Now what do I
do?
I don't have time to reorde
"Braveheart"
SharonC., who says "Macbeth" backstage too, and doesn't spit, turn around,
go out and come back in, etc.
On the Revlist (American Revolution) some people will write
*spit* after they mention the movie, The Patriot. It's a testament
to Mel that there are such reactions to his
The 1840s is kind of late for what I'm doing. I need that baggy seat, to
cover my anatomy and to 'read' early, and I need the resultant trousers
to stay up without suspenders.
Simplicity 4923 is fall-front with a baggy seat and does not use
suspenders. It is taken from 'Cut of Men's Clothes
What about a diluted solution of chlorine bleach? That always works on
whites for me.
Monica Spence
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Sharon at Collierfam.com
Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 9:24 PM
To: 'Historical Costume'
Subject: RE: [h-cost]
Gwen wrote:
I've read all the posts about the mouldy linen but what about a white
linen that dye has bled into? I have heavy white linen and it has
blue black stains on it from another fabric that was touching it.
Try an oxygen-based bleach. If that doesn't do it, chlorine bleach.
--
Adel
monica spence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>The dresses worn by Eleonora in her Bronzino portraits usually
don't have
that center strip down the CF. You can surmise that is there from the pictures
where she wears a zimarra (surcoat). Where you do see the strip come from the
hands of copyists
Yes that's it. I couldn't rmember the term. Thanks.
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From: "Sharon at Collierfam.com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Historical Costume'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 9:25 PM
Subject: RE: [h-cost] Knight's Tale
Aramaic?
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It's occurred to me that I'd forgotten to make sure I mentioned this on
this list.
For any of you who have been planning to visit the Smithsonian's
National Museum of American History, where the First Ladies' dresses are
(and right now a suit of Benjamin Franklin's has been on display for a
w
A cheap remover for marker is acetone.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Susan B. Farmer
Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 6:55 AM
To: Historical Costume
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Mouldy linen/dyed linen
Quoting Gwen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I've r
I guess you misunderstood me about the date.
I guess I did. I thought you were talking about an existing pair of
trousers from the first quarter of the 19thC. I couldn't find the Eagle
pattern online, to compare with.
The pattern is about 1780's.
As Suzi has suggested, the basic FullF
Becky wrote:
Is a "browncoat" something more than just a brown coat? Like a British
Redcost?
Yes, in the movie that was the nickname for the separatist/rebellion
fighters, because of the long brown leather coats they wore.
Dawn
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h-costume
Carolyn Kayta Barrows wrote:
The 1840s is kind of late for what I'm doing. I need that baggy seat,
to cover my anatomy and to 'read' early, and I need the resultant
trousers to stay up without suspenders.
Simplicity 4923 is fall-front with a baggy seat and does not use
suspenders. It is
Is a "browncoat" something more than just a brown coat? Like a British
Redcost?
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From: "Avien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 5:19 AM
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Re: Firefly browncoat
Hehe! I've made my husba
I guess you misunderstood me about the date. The pattern is about 1780's.
As Suzi has suggested, the basic FullFall pattern was well established the
last quarter of the 18thC and the long version continued in use for about
100 years until the slim style came into vogue. If you use the ...Eagle
pa
Hehe! I've made my husband a browncoat, Mal's suit from Shindig, and
several Wash-style Hawaiian shirts. For me, I am mostly a Kaylee person
having made the jumpsuit and fluffy dress. I've done one Inara - the gold
and black one from Serenity, and working on several more this year. So much
fun
Love it!!
I'm currently working on one of Inara's outfits.
Silvara
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> Date: 4/22/2006 11:54:51 AM
> Subject: [h-cost] Re: Firefly browncoat
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> > Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 17:54:30 -0500
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