After looking at the drawings, I began to wonder, were the sleeves possibly
made seperate from the bodice and perhaps pinned onto the chemise,level with
the bodice top , to look like they were connected? I'd like to try an Italian
but so many things about them I find confusing,
melody
Bella
In the book 18th century embroidery teckniques, there is a corset wich is
very elaborate embroidered all over. It has shoulderstraps and laces center
back.
I am very keen in making a similar one, having in mind to mix it with a pink
taffeta i baught in Rome. I was thinking about making the
At 02:19 05/07/2007, you wrote:
more pictures
http://www.tudor-portraits.com/Various_8.htm
perhaps the Margo Anderson pattern might help as the hanging sleeve is a
carry over from the late 1500s.
De
Thanks - I had all these that are relevant. I don't have time to get
patterns - I have The
Wait a second!
Aside from all the interesting suggestions that people have made about
sleeves, what's this about hanging up your scissors? Are you getting out of
the historical costuming business? (I am sorry if you are - I have always
admired your work!) If so, what is that made you decide
At 10:39 05/07/2007, you wrote:
Actually I was thinking you could have a look online at the pattern.
The site doesn't allow you to go directly to the pattern so,
http://www.margospatterns.com/
You want the Elizabethan Lady's Wardrobe (click on it) Then scroll down to
the Eight sleeve styles to
At 11:14 05/07/2007, you wrote:
Wait a second!
Aside from all the interesting suggestions that people have made about
sleeves, what's this about hanging up your scissors? Are you getting out of
the historical costuming business? (I am sorry if you are - I have always
admired your work!) If
Anything is possible Melody! There are no extant Venetian gowns of the 16th
century to look at, as far as I'm aware, so anything that works to get the
bodice/sleeves to look like that is good, in my opinion. I love to see how
people deal with design issues, and non-existant shoulder straps is
At 08:58 05/07/2007, you wrote:
In the book 18th century embroidery teckniques, there is a corset
wich is very elaborate embroidered all over. It has shoulderstraps
and laces center back.
I am very keen in making a similar one, having in mind to mix it
with a pink taffeta i baught in Rome. I
If you ever get a chance to look at Roy Strong. The English Icon: Elizabethan
and Jacobean Portraiture. London: The Paul Meloon Foundation for British Art,
Routledge and Kegan Paul, 1969.There is set of portraits of two women,
clearly in the same dress, which is slashed so heavily, it looks
At 16:51 05/07/2007, you wrote:
If you ever get a chance to look at Roy Strong. The English Icon:
Elizabethan and Jacobean Portraiture. London: The Paul Meloon
Foundation for British Art, Routledge and Kegan Paul, 1969.There
is set of portraits of two women, clearly in the same dress,
This is a fascinating gown. Do you know where the original picture is? I
would love a really good copy.
Anne
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Subject: RE:
I'll be going to Madrid again in a few weeks. I plan on finishing off
the third floor of the Prado, visiting the Borne-Misza Museum again
and showing my DH the Palacio Real. However, I have at the back of my
mind that there is a costume museum there, that I missed a couple of
years ago. Does
I am old and tired
You are NOT old!!
want to spend time doing something other than
working for other people - I have so many projects that I have
started over the years,
This I can relate to.
I will take on something if it interests me,
That's the best way to do projects.
I am
At 19:36 05/07/2007, you wrote:
This is a fascinating gown. Do you know where the original picture is? I
would love a really good copy.
This is now at Kenwood House, apparently, in North London. It was
formerly at the Ranger's House in Blackheath, and I thought was part
of the Iveagh
I have seen it before, and i still think its overdone, and if you really
want my oppinion, i dont like the slashing at all, what a waist of
beautifull brocade...
Sorry :-(
I know it was very fashionable.still
Bjarne
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At 19:50 05/07/2007, you wrote:
Dont recall the details, but its called Museo de Traje.
Wished i could go with you.
Rome was so borring this year, my 3rd visit, and i thoaght there
would be so many other things to see, but when you have seen most of
the things there, its borring to see it
And you are in the UK, so they may not be as exciting for you, but I enjoyed
the two stores that specialize in church equipment, including vestments, and
a store that sells mostly flamenco costumes, including a wall of roses in
every color you can think of (they do have other costumes, too).
At 20:27 05/07/2007, you wrote:
And you are in the UK, so they may not be as exciting for you, but I enjoyed
the two stores that specialize in church equipment, including vestments, and
a store that sells mostly flamenco costumes, including a wall of roses in
every color you can think of (they
Ooh, deeply glamourous! However, I've got a month
exactly till the event, so a heavy beading project
isn't gonna happen. I think I'm thinking of something
summery with pinks and greens, but the black does
sound yummy. Hmmm, maybe for next year. I look
terrific in black. ;-)
Something like this:
Greetings all,
I am looking for hi-rez images of the extant arming coats of the
Black Prince and of Charles of Blois, and of the Effigy of the Black
prince in Canterbury Cathedral. This is so I can make line drawing
illustrations for a class I am teaching later this summer. I've
found
Nice.
Someone may have already suggested it but how about some small lace along
the edge as an option? metallic?
Or combine the split and gold lace?
De
whose brain this week seems to be in first gear and slips into neutral
periodically.
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Thanks, but I have patterns for
Nice fabric choice, very summery. Would work for both evening and a
garden party or tea
Katy
On 7/5/07, MaggiRos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ooh, deeply glamourous! However, I've got a month
exactly till the event, so a heavy beading project
isn't gonna happen. I think I'm thinking of
How about making the tunic out of lace and add a few pearls, pink, green and
clear beads to spots.
De
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Ooh, deeply glamourous! However, I've got a month
exactly till the event, so a heavy beading project
isn't gonna happen. I think I'm thinking of something
summery with
In a message dated 7/5/2007 4:49:31 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
How about making the tunic out of lace and add a few pearls, pink, green and
clear beads to spots.
**
And of course they make the most opulent already embroidered / beaded /
How Hi-res do you want? I don't know of any on the web, but I have
some pretty large scans from various books. The Charles is 3 MB with
1-2 MB details.
Beth
At 03:49 PM 7/5/2007, you wrote:
Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 13:17:29 -0700
From: Althea Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Greetings all,
I am
Museo del Trajes
http://museodeltraje.mcu.es/index.jsp?id=83ruta=3,16
There's an exhibit in conjunction with the Kyoto Museum of Costume coming
up. Hope you get to see some of that stuff, too.
-cin
Cynthia Barnes
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I'll be going to Madrid again in a few weeks. I plan on
At 21:34 05/07/2007, you wrote:
Nice.
Someone may have already suggested it but how about some small lace along
the edge as an option? metallic?
Or combine the split and gold lace?
I have some gold/crimson/blue brocade left from the underskirt which
will edge inside the sleeve, plus whatever
I've had no messages for a week - is anybody out there??
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Jean Waddie
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Have replied directly.
Glenda.
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I've had no messages for a week - is anybody out there??
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Jean Waddie
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That would be terrific, but again, there's a time
constraint. The black stuff I just ordered, though
will probably lend itself to some accent beads.
Thanks for the inspiration!
MaggiRos the Elizabethan
--- otsisto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How about making the tunic out of lace and add a few
Sorry for the X-posts
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Taufe-Christi-1556-Detail.jpghttp://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Taufe-Christi-1556-Detail.jpg
Any thoughts on the cut of the coat and sleeves of the woman's Schaube?
Here is a similar one for a man.
AlbertCat wasn't kinding about the lace and embroidery prices.
http://tinyurl.com/2l7w2a
http://tinyurl.com/26g2xg
http://www.finefabrics.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGYCategory_Code=
BD
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Ugh, sorry about the links.
http://public.fotki.com/wickedfrau/schaube/mansschaube.html
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Taufe-Christi-1556-Detail.jpg
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GermanRenCostume
Those would be wonderful! Im trying to see detail so I can make an
illustrated version.
Thank you!
Althea
On Jul 5, 2007, at 3:20 PM, Beth and Bob Matney wrote:
How Hi-res do you want? I don't know of any on the web, but I have
some pretty large scans from various books. The Charles is 3
OK. I've resisted as long as I could.
Of course I remember what I was wearing in 2002-4 because I'm still wearing it
- and from much earlier too. It's probably heresy on a fashion-related list,
but I refuse to wear some of the ugly junk that shows up in stores. It's
expensive and frequently
On Thursday 05 July 2007, Julie wrote:
OK. I've resisted as long as I could.
Of course I remember what I was wearing in 2002-4 because I'm still wearing
it - and from much earlier too. It's probably heresy on a fashion-related
list, but I refuse to wear some of the ugly junk that shows up in
I've found a green that will go under it perfectly. It
will also go under the embroidered black, so I'm going
to go for it and do both! Mwahahaha. Two totally
different looks off the same idea
I'm feeling fairly evil, but it's payday, and I don't
do this kind of thing very often. No honest. I
Suzi,
Have you seen these?
BURIAL CHURCHES OF SPANISH SOVEREIGNS
http://homepage.mac.com/crowns/e/avgal.html
Museo Iglesia del Salvador (Salvador Church
Museum ) (Oña, Province:
http://www.spain.info/TourSpain/Destinos/Provincias/H/CW/0/Burgos.htm?Language=ENBurgos,
Region:
I'm sure a lot of us are still wearing the same clothes from years
ago and earlier. I know I am!So what were you buying 5 years ago
that you were still wearing?
Sylrog
On Jul 5, 2007, at 5:38 PM, Julie wrote:
OK. I've resisted as long as I could.
Of course I remember what I was
I'm totally in love with this one, but I don't think
it will go with the pink/green charmeuse.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=013sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AITviewitem=item=230147316386rd=1rd=1#ebayphotohosting
or
http://tinyurl.com/2pvtf4
Oh I'm all in a dither. I've got to pick
At 00:02 06/07/2007, you wrote:
Ugh, sorry about the links.
http://public.fotki.com/wickedfrau/schaube/mansschaube.html
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Taufe-Christi-1556-Detail.jpg
The man's sleeve can be seen on Holbein's iconic painting of Henry
Vlll, (tucked in behind the puff
These make it pretty clear they are indeed not one with the rest of the
coat.
Thanks!
Sg
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From: Suzi Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 4:25 PM
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Thoughts on the cut of Schaube/Sleeve
In a message dated 7/5/2007 6:59:54 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
AlbertCat wasn't kinding about the lace and embroidery prices.
http://tinyurl.com/2l7w2a
http://tinyurl.com/26g2xg
http://www.finefabrics.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGYCategory_Code=
BD
I don't think that it looks like that. It appears to me that the sleeve is
only attached at the back half leaving a hole through which the arm could
pass. That is the way I saw it on the Henry portrait.
Anne
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I'm going to be in New Orleans for a conference next week. I've got one full
day and some scattered time for sight seeing. Anyone recommend anything as a
must-see for a costume junky?
Thanks
Beth
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