Re: [h-cost] Online dictionary of colors with color swatches
On Sunday 03 January 2010 9:31:54 pm Sharon Collier wrote: > Me, too, but there is a book (available at Amazon) which supposedly has > examples of all the old colors. I think the title has something to do with > "elephants" or "smoke". Sorry, I don't remember exactly. It may also have > been discussed on the Elizabethan Clothing Tribe. It's called "Elephant's Breath and London Smoke". Here's the page on Amazon. http://www.amazon.com/Elephants-Breath-London-Smoke- Salisbury/dp/0973927828/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1262573593&sr=8-1 -- Cathy Raymond "No one can make as disastrous a bad choice as a smart person, because they sell it to themselves really well."--Tobias Buckell ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Online dictionary of colors with color swatches
Me, too, but there is a book (available at Amazon) which supposedly has examples of all the old colors. I think the title has something to do with "elephants" or "smoke". Sorry, I don't remember exactly. It may also have been discussed on the Elizabethan Clothing Tribe. -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Chris Laning Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 2:40 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Online dictionary of colors with color swatches Online color guides are also useful if they contain named period colors, since there are quite a few color names that give the uninitiated *no* clue as to which part of the spectrum the color is in. I was a bit disappointed not to see either "Dead Spaniard" or "Goose-turd green" when I looked at the linked site. ;) For that sort of use, the colors don't have to be 100% precise, just close. I was interested to see that it did have "Alice blue" which is apparently a notoriously difficult shade to describe using words alone. I would think that this sort of color guide would also be useful for someone trying to describe the shade that quilters refer to as "that Thirties green," which is quite distinctive once you see it, but which tends not to show up in modern color guides. OChris Laning - Davis, California + http://paternoster-row.org - http://paternosters.blogspot.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Online dictionary of colors with color swatches
On Jan 3, 2010, at 5:58 PM, Marjorie Wilser wrote: You are right, Chris, that the link is helpful; what I was originally trying to point out in my response was that if only there were a precise color guide, we could describe colors and be understood perfectly by our correspondents (others misunderstood my intent). My comment didn't have much to do with historical color understanding, however, just with communication :) == Marjorie Wilser (who still likes the Crayola system!) The link Allison just posted http://www.firemountaingems.com/details.asp?PN=H203271TL has a Pantone guide for $20. As far as colors changing, I see a color forecast: http://www.firemountaingems.com/trends/fashion_trends.asp? docid=PANTONEFORECAST which probably matches their color book, however the numbers are not the same as Pantone for print. If I was talking about PMS 199, is it close to 18-1550? Maybe if we go to the paint store and get a collection of the colors, but then we have to be sure we're comparing Behr to Behr and not Behr to Sherwin-Williams. -Carol ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Online dictionary of colors with color swatches
You are right, Chris, that the link is helpful; what I was originally trying to point out in my response was that if only there were a precise color guide, we could describe colors and be understood perfectly by our correspondents (others misunderstood my intent). My comment didn't have much to do with historical color understanding, however, just with communication :) == Marjorie Wilser (who still likes the Crayola system!) =:=:=:Three Toad Press:=:=:= "Learn to laugh at yourself and you will never lack for amusement." --MW http://3toad.blogspot.com/ On Jan 3, 2010, at 2:39 PM, Chris Laning wrote: Online color guides are also useful if they contain named period colors, since there are quite a few color names that give the uninitiated *no* clue as to which part of the spectrum the color is in. I was a bit disappointed not to see either "Dead Spaniard" or "Goose-turd green" when I looked at the linked site. ;) For that sort of use, the colors don't have to be 100% precise, just close. I was interested to see that it did have "Alice blue" which is apparently a notoriously difficult shade to describe using words alone. I would think that this sort of color guide would also be useful for someone trying to describe the shade that quilters refer to as "that Thirties green," which is quite distinctive once you see it, but which tends not to show up in modern color guides. OChris Laning - Davis, California + http://paternoster-row.org - http://paternosters.blogspot.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Online dictionary of colors with color swatches
Online color guides are also useful if they contain named period colors, since there are quite a few color names that give the uninitiated *no* clue as to which part of the spectrum the color is in. I was a bit disappointed not to see either "Dead Spaniard" or "Goose-turd green" when I looked at the linked site. ;) For that sort of use, the colors don't have to be 100% precise, just close. I was interested to see that it did have "Alice blue" which is apparently a notoriously difficult shade to describe using words alone. I would think that this sort of color guide would also be useful for someone trying to describe the shade that quilters refer to as "that Thirties green," which is quite distinctive once you see it, but which tends not to show up in modern color guides. OChris Laning - Davis, California + http://paternoster-row.org - http://paternosters.blogspot.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Pantone color guide
FWIW, I'm liking the link Fran posted. No monitor is identical, but it's a great guide to get the "gist" of the historic colors being described. Also, FWIW, Pantone offers a "shopper's color guide" for only $20. No idea how it compares to the professional level guides or how long the colors stay fresh, but there it is: http://www.firemountaingems.com/details.asp?PN=H203271TL . Allison T. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume