Re: [h-cost] Online dictionary of colors with color swatches

2010-01-03 Thread Catherine Olanich Raymond
On Sunday 03 January 2010 9:31:54 pm Sharon Collier wrote:
> Me, too, but there is a book (available at Amazon) which supposedly has
> examples of all the old colors. I think the title has something to do with
> "elephants" or "smoke". Sorry, I don't remember exactly. It may also have
> been discussed on the Elizabethan Clothing Tribe.

It's called "Elephant's Breath and London Smoke".  Here's the page on Amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/Elephants-Breath-London-Smoke-
Salisbury/dp/0973927828/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1262573593&sr=8-1

-- 

Cathy Raymond 

"No one can make as disastrous a bad choice as a smart person, because they 
sell it to themselves really well."--Tobias Buckell

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Re: [h-cost] Online dictionary of colors with color swatches

2010-01-03 Thread Sharon Collier
Me, too, but there is a book (available at Amazon) which supposedly has
examples of all the old colors. I think the title has something to do with
"elephants" or "smoke". Sorry, I don't remember exactly. It may also have
been discussed on the Elizabethan Clothing Tribe. 

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Subject: Re: [h-cost] Online dictionary of colors with color swatches

Online color guides are also useful if they contain named period colors,
since there are quite a few color names that give the uninitiated *no* clue
as to which part of the spectrum the color is in. I was a bit disappointed
not to see either "Dead Spaniard" or "Goose-turd green" when I looked at the
linked site. ;)

For that sort of use, the colors don't have to be 100% precise, just close.

I was interested to see that it did have "Alice blue" which is apparently a
notoriously difficult shade to describe using words alone. I would think
that this sort of color guide would also be useful for someone trying to
describe the shade that quilters refer to as "that Thirties green," which is
quite distinctive once you see it, but which tends not to show up in modern
color guides.



OChris Laning  - Davis, California
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Re: [h-cost] Online dictionary of colors with color swatches

2010-01-03 Thread Carol Kocian


On Jan 3, 2010, at 5:58 PM, Marjorie Wilser wrote:

You are right, Chris, that the link is helpful; what I was  
originally trying to point out in my  response was that if only  
there were a precise color guide, we could describe colors and be  
understood perfectly by our correspondents (others misunderstood my  
intent). My comment didn't have much to do with historical color  
understanding, however, just with communication :)


== Marjorie Wilser (who still likes the Crayola system!)


 The link Allison just posted
http://www.firemountaingems.com/details.asp?PN=H203271TL
has a Pantone guide for $20.

 As far as colors changing, I see a color forecast:
http://www.firemountaingems.com/trends/fashion_trends.asp? 
docid=PANTONEFORECAST
which probably matches their color book, however the numbers are not  
the same as Pantone for print. If I was talking about PMS 199, is it  
close to 18-1550?


 Maybe if we go to the paint store and get a collection of the  
colors, but then we have to be sure we're comparing Behr to Behr and  
not Behr to Sherwin-Williams.


 -Carol
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Re: [h-cost] Online dictionary of colors with color swatches

2010-01-03 Thread Marjorie Wilser
You are right, Chris, that the link is helpful; what I was originally  
trying to point out in my  response was that if only there were a  
precise color guide, we could describe colors and be understood  
perfectly by our correspondents (others misunderstood my intent). My  
comment didn't have much to do with historical color understanding,  
however, just with communication :)


== Marjorie Wilser (who still likes the Crayola system!)

=:=:=:Three Toad Press:=:=:=

"Learn to laugh at yourself and you will never lack for amusement." --MW

http://3toad.blogspot.com/




On Jan 3, 2010, at 2:39 PM, Chris Laning wrote:

Online color guides are also useful if they contain named period  
colors, since there are quite a few color names that give the  
uninitiated *no* clue as to which part of the spectrum the color is  
in. I was a bit disappointed not to see either "Dead Spaniard" or  
"Goose-turd green" when I looked at the linked site. ;)


For that sort of use, the colors don't have to be 100% precise, just  
close.


I was interested to see that it did have "Alice blue" which is  
apparently a notoriously difficult shade to describe using words  
alone. I would think that this sort of color guide would also be  
useful for someone trying to describe the shade that quilters refer  
to as "that Thirties green," which is quite distinctive once you see  
it, but which tends not to show up in modern color guides.




OChris Laning  - Davis, California
+ http://paternoster-row.org - http://paternosters.blogspot.com




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Re: [h-cost] Online dictionary of colors with color swatches

2010-01-03 Thread Chris Laning
Online color guides are also useful if they contain named period  
colors, since there are quite a few color names that give the  
uninitiated *no* clue as to which part of the spectrum the color is  
in. I was a bit disappointed not to see either "Dead Spaniard" or  
"Goose-turd green" when I looked at the linked site. ;)


For that sort of use, the colors don't have to be 100% precise, just  
close.


I was interested to see that it did have "Alice blue" which is  
apparently a notoriously difficult shade to describe using words  
alone. I would think that this sort of color guide would also be  
useful for someone trying to describe the shade that quilters refer to  
as "that Thirties green," which is quite distinctive once you see it,  
but which tends not to show up in modern color guides.




OChris Laning  - Davis, California
+ http://paternoster-row.org - http://paternosters.blogspot.com




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Re: [h-cost] Pantone color guide

2010-01-03 Thread A. Thurman
FWIW, I'm liking the link Fran posted. No monitor is identical, but
it's a great guide to get the "gist" of the historic colors being
described.

Also, FWIW, Pantone offers a "shopper's color guide" for only $20. No
idea how it compares to the professional level guides or how long the
colors stay fresh, but there it is:
http://www.firemountaingems.com/details.asp?PN=H203271TL .

Allison T.
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