Re: [h-cost] Question: Regency trains?

2010-03-04 Thread Paula Praxis
This post seems to have lots of images to show what you are talking about; however I can not access any of them - I ge a "forbiden" note at the top of every page. Is there another way to see these images? Paula > Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 16:47:09 -0500 > From: hope.greenb...@uvm.edu >

Re: [h-cost] Question: Regency trains?

2010-03-04 Thread Käthe Barrows
 I believe > that means it has a train, and they must still have  been fashionable on the > Continent at that time. Or maybe, if someone gave uit to her, it's an older trained dress that was out of fashion and the donor thought it could be remodeled by the recipient. -- Carolyn Kayta Barrows --

Re: [h-cost] Question: Regency trains?

2010-03-04 Thread A. Thurman
Just wanted to thank everyone for their replies. Hope, thank you for the images (your post below), and the difference between ball and opera gowns. FWIW, I'm going for a basic day gown that might I might accessorize in future for evening, if possible. Based on your responses. I think I'm going to

Re: [h-cost] Piece of vintage baleen stay

2010-03-04 Thread Lavolta Press
Victorian bodices often have baleen stays. You can probably buy a really damaged one off eBay and take out the bones. The bones I have, have all become brittle with age, but if you want baleen, it's pretty easy to find that way. Fran Lavolta Press Books on Historic Clothing http:///www.lavolta

Re: [h-cost] Question: Regency trains?

2010-03-04 Thread AnnBWass
In a message dated 3/4/2010 5:55:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, hope.greenb...@uvm.edu writes: in 1817, but it's hard to imagine that anyone would have a train on any gown by that time Rosalie Stier Calvert, who lived in Prince George's County, Maryland, received clothing from her sister

Re: [h-cost] Piece of vintage baleen stay

2010-03-04 Thread Judy Mitchell
I know someone in the US who bought a long chunk off ebay. fascinating stuff. No, it wasn't vintage. I don't believe. -Judy Mitchell SPaterson wrote: I know in Canada you can be gifted with baleen, but there may be issues in the selling/buying of it (unless already in a garment) - least

Re: [h-cost] Piece of vintage baleen stay

2010-03-04 Thread SPaterson
I know in Canada you can be gifted with baleen, but there may be issues in the selling/buying of it (unless already in a garment) - leastwise it was when I was on the hunt for it over 10 years ago..you may have better luck at your friendliest costume museum. Bess Darnley / Sarah Paterson

[h-cost] Piece of vintage baleen stay

2010-03-04 Thread Wicked Frau
Hi all, I am looking for a piece of vintage baleen stay. I had a piece and have lost it. I use it in my lectures to show people what it really was like. If anyone knows of anyone willing to part with a piece I would be very grateful - and willing to pay for it. Saragrace

Re: [h-cost] Question: Regency trains?

2010-03-04 Thread Hope Greenberg
It is an interesting question, isn't it? My take on that phrase has always been that when she wrote Northanger Abbey in 1798-1799, pinning up a train would have been necessary, particularly in the crowded assembly rooms at Bath. It would have still been an accurate statement when Austen revised

Re: [h-cost] Question: Regency trains?

2010-03-04 Thread Lavolta Press
And, as an aside, if making a formal gown for evening, be sure to differentiate between 'ball dress' and 'evening wear.' I have yet to find an image of a post-1810 ball gown that has a train. Up to and around 1810 there are plenty of 'full dress' or 'evening wear' or 'opera dress' gowns that do

Re: [h-cost] Odd Chatter

2010-03-04 Thread cw15147-hcost00
I strictly avoid chat invites with people I don't know. Can't tell who they REALLY are or what the heck they REALLY want, and this iffy-er than any uninvited chats I've ever gotten. Just my two (paranoid) pence. Claudine - Original Message > From: Stacey Dunleavy > To: h-costume@

Re: [h-cost] Odd Chatter

2010-03-04 Thread Tracy Thallas
Hmmm. I'd approach with caution, to be sure... while this could be completely innocent (maybe just because her son wants to dress this way?) I can easily see it as some sort of kiddie-porn as well. Sigh. Ain't NOTHIN' "uncorrupted" any more There is a photo of my grandfather c.1897,

Re: [h-cost] Question: Regency trains?

2010-03-04 Thread Hope Greenberg
Sounds lovely. Answering the question of what to do with a train, both in terms of carrying it and in terms of protecting it, is a challenge. Here are some thoughts: For the gowns just before 1800 that were fuller, women are shown twisting the train up behind their backs, holding a bit of it u

[h-cost] Odd Chatter

2010-03-04 Thread Stacey Dunleavy
I don't know if this is OT, but I was asked to chat with someone who is absolutely obsessed with boys in dresses. I was approached as a member of an inactive Yahoo sewing group - I assumed the person just wanted to talk construction and embroidery. She (there is a female persona with this chatter

Re: [h-cost] Experiences with this company?

2010-03-04 Thread Hanna Zickermann
Thank you all, I am very much relieved to hear that. I called the company with my mobile phone (which worked for some reasons, but thank you Rachel for your kind offer!) and left a message on the answering machine. I didn´t know it was such a small company, so I am fine with a bit of waiting

Re: [h-cost] Question: Regency trains?

2010-03-04 Thread annbwass
I recently read (will try to hunt down the source, so this isn't official) that they normally wore the train over one arm. The point was to bring the skirt close to the legs to emphasize the "nearly naked" look. So trains didn't trail, they helped you look naughty. ;-) And they stayed cle

Re: [h-cost] Question: Regency trains?

2010-03-04 Thread Käthe Barrows
>I think I would go without, if I were you, considering the extreme hassle it >would be in a white cotton. And the fact that "nobody" seems to know how to behave around a train, and if it ever hits the floor somebody will step on it. -- Carolyn Kayta Barrows -- “The future is already here, it i

Re: [h-cost] Question: Regency trains?

2010-03-04 Thread Deb Salisbury, the Mantua-Maker
I recently read (will try to hunt down the source, so this isn't official) that they normally wore the train over one arm. The point was to bring the skirt close to the legs to emphasize the "nearly naked" look. So trains didn't trail, they helped you look naughty. ;-) And they stayed clean!

Re: [h-cost] Question: Regency trains?

2010-03-04 Thread annbwass
Allison--many, but not all, day dresses had trains, and, at least in the US, trains were out of style for day dresses by 1805. (I seem to remember a quote that they were out of style in England by then, too, but I can't remember the exact reference for that one.) The train would have been cut

Re: [h-cost] Question: Regency trains?

2010-03-04 Thread julian wilson
Dear Annanbel,  there were no trains in the "Regency period". The Prince Regent [ Prinny] became King George IV in 1820, and the first railway opened in 1828. So one could posit that the first trains were "Georgian". Sorry, couldn't resist that.    :-)>: {grinning!] Matthewe Baker ___

[h-cost] Question: Regency trains?

2010-03-04 Thread A. Thurman
I'm looking to make my first (non-fantasy-tinged) Regency gown, out of white on white windowpane cotton. I am finding that during my target time period (1800-1810) many (all?) dresses had a train, even for day. I'm considering eliminating this to reduce wear and tear (it's fine white fabric after

Re: [h-cost] what to name a dressmaker's dummy

2010-03-04 Thread AVCHASE
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Re: [h-cost] Experiences with this company?

2010-03-04 Thread Debloughcostumes
I ordered some buttons from them last year. We had problems contacting them via e-mail, but had no problems contacting them over the phone (which was obviously in the evening allowing for the time difference from the UK). The buttons (naval ones) were delivered quite a bit later than they

Re: [h-cost] What to name a dressmaker's dummy

2010-03-04 Thread R Lloyd Mitchell
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