Re: [h-cost] 19th c women's dress - lining
oh! I am so sorry; I thought this was a local SCA list. I am in Fresno, CA...please forgive :) To: h-cost...@indra.com Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 20:07:58 -0400 From: lis...@juno.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] 19th c women's dress - lining I have no idea where you live, I live north of Silver Spring , Maryland,, USA. That intersection does not sound at all familiar Yours in cosutming, Lisa a On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 15:01:59 -0700 D Knowles dana.know...@live.com writes: an Indian grocery on shields and bkackstone has wonderful cottons for 1$ a yard. I have an original early 1860s high-necked sheer cotton dress in a dark green stripe, with a low-necked black taffeta bodice lining. I've always assumed the lining might have been recycled from something else and was used for economy. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] h-costume Digest, Vol 9, Issue 188
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[h-cost] Suggestions on trim
I am putting together a gown in the style Eleanora de Toledo's burial gown. The fabric I am using is a once ivory embroidered silk. The color is a lovely cranberry/claret color. The embroidery didn't take much if any of the dye so I have a scrolling vine/flower in a nearly white on the cranberry/clart back grown. I suspected this would happen, since I didn't think the embroidery was done in silk, or any other natural fiber. This I can live with. My question is in regards to the trim/guards for the gown. In the same dye bath I put in a yard or so of an off white silk that I can make a matching trim. There's no embroidery on this silk and I intend to add whatever decoration that it needs, embroidery, pearls, gold beads, etc. I'm just not sure this is the right color for the trim/guard since it's so close to the main fabric. I wonder if some black velveteen might work, but with the white embroidery on the body of the gown? Maybe a white velveteen? Has anyone seen a white color used as trim/guards on Floretine fashions on the mid 16th century? I'm estimating about ten to twelve yards of trim, so unless I can find some three-to four inch wide trim really inexpensive, I was planning to make the trim. alex -- So much to do and so little attention span to get it done with… ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Suggestions on trim
Which gown? There are at least 4 types. http://tinyurl.com/2by2jej Are you speaking of the burial gown? http://farm1.static.flickr.com/155/413141744_784f44dc14_o.jpg http://tinyurl.com/278vn6n Side find: Eleanora's stays http://realmofvenus.renaissanceitaly.net/workbox/extwomclo3.htm Personal thought is that a white would be to stark. 4 inches? That seems a bit wide. You do have the option of using the strip of silk that is dyed as a way to widen the trim by laying a 2 or more trim on that and possibly if you feel the need, embellish. You should look for trim that is gold tone and possibly trim with hint of white or small pearl bead accents. Or the trim can be a complimentary color with gold metallic. This is just an example. Say you have the strip layed down. on top of it you have a 2 trim like this http://www.calontirtrim.com/queries/showtrim.asp?trimid=1116 then you can embellish with pearls/beads on the trim design and along the edge of the trim to tie in the white. You want the guards/trim to balance with the gown, not stand out or overwhelm. Or http://www.calontirtrim.com/queries/showtrim.asp?trimid=669 non metallic trim of a complimentary color and pearls, plus if your energetic you can embroider extra accent in a gold tone. (Just using the Calontir Trim for examples) De -Original Message- I am putting together a gown in the style Eleanora de Toledo's burial gown. The fabric I am using is a once ivory embroidered silk. The color is a lovely cranberry/claret color. The embroidery didn't take much if any of the dye so I have a scrolling vine/flower in a nearly white on the cranberry/clart back grown. I suspected this would happen, since I didn't think the embroidery was done in silk, or any other natural fiber. This I can live with. My question is in regards to the trim/guards for the gown. In the same dye bath I put in a yard or so of an off white silk that I can make a matching trim. There's no embroidery on this silk and I intend to add whatever decoration that it needs, embroidery, pearls, gold beads, etc. I'm just not sure this is the right color for the trim/guard since it's so close to the main fabric. I wonder if some black velveteen might work, but with the white embroidery on the body of the gown? Maybe a white velveteen? Has anyone seen a white color used as trim/guards on Floretine fashions on the mid 16th century? I'm estimating about ten to twelve yards of trim, so unless I can find some three-to four inch wide trim really inexpensive, I was planning to make the trim. alex -- ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Suggestions on trim
On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 4:23 PM, otsisto otsi...@socket.net wrote: Which gown? There are at least 4 types. This is the one: Are you speaking of the burial gown? http://farm1.static.flickr.com/155/413141744_784f44dc14_o.jpg http://tinyurl.com/278vn6n That's what I was thinking as well, and was leaning toward something gold or metalic Personal thought is that a white would be to stark. 4 inches? That seems a bit wide. The triming down at the hem and up the front of the skirt is definitely wide, I think 4 inches, while the bodice has three inches. I hadn't considered using a mix of trim and fabric, that would give me a core that ties the two trims together, while giving me the appropirate width for each section. You do have the option of using the strip of silk that is dyed as a way to widen the trim by laying a 2 or more trim on that and possibly if you feel the need, embellish. You should look for trim that is gold tone and possibly trim with hint of white or small pearl bead accents. Or the trim can be a complimentary color with gold metallic. Hum, i can add bits of narrow gold trim to something of middling width, and I think I'll see what green looks like against it... might have to go fabric shopping this weekend... thanks for the thoughts alex De -Original Message- -- So much to do and so little attention span to get it done with… ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Caracalla
Does anyone know of contemporary images of the caracalla? I can't seem to find a single image on line. My google-fu is weak. Thanks! Althea Turner alt...@alfalfapress.com We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty. When the loyal opposition dies, I think the soul of America dies with it. Edward R. Murrow ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Caracalla
What actually is it that you are looking for? I'm finding several things called caracalla. For example Emperor Caracalla http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Caracalla.jpg There are the baths of Caracalla and the story of Caracalla Geta Here are the google images http://tinyurl.com/323dt8a De -Original Message- Does anyone know of contemporary images of the caracalla? I can't seem to find a single image on line. My google-fu is weak. Thanks! Althea Turner alt...@alfalfapress.com We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty. When the loyal opposition dies, I think the soul of America dies with it. Edward R. Murrow ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Caracalla
The hooded Gallo-Roman garment that gave the Emperor Caracalla his nickname (kinda like Caligula's nickname is from the boots). Busts of Caracalla show a drape of fabric which may or may not be the caracalla garment. Thanks! Althea Turner alt...@alfalfapress.com We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty. When the loyal opposition dies, I think the soul of America dies with it. Edward R. Murrow On Jun 12, 2010, at 9:47 PM, otsisto wrote: What actually is it that you are looking for? I'm finding several things called caracalla. For example Emperor Caracalla http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Caracalla.jpg There are the baths of Caracalla and the story of Caracalla Geta Here are the google images http://tinyurl.com/323dt8a De -Original Message- Does anyone know of contemporary images of the caracalla? I can't seem to find a single image on line. My google-fu is weak. Thanks! Althea Turner alt...@alfalfapress.com We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty. When the loyal opposition dies, I think the soul of America dies with it. Edward R. Murrow ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
