Re: [h-cost] Craftsman decorating
From: Marjorie Wilser To: Historical Costume Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 19:19:38 -0700 Reply-To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Craftsman decorating They also liked hammered copper did you note the glasses underneath the ones linked? ==Marjorie Wilser Completely off the "Craftsman" theme, but the water glasses in their "Gibraltar" pattern remind me of the glasses Yahrzeit candles used to come in. (For the non-Jews: these are sometimes called "memorial candles" and are used to honor our deceased first-degree relations on certain holy days and on the anniversary -- in Yiddish, "Yahrzeit" -- of their passing.) Pretty much every US Jewish home from the 1960s through the 1980s (maybe even the 1990s -- I don't recall exactly when the switch was made to smaller containers) used these as water glasses (obviously *after* the candle had been burned and the candle-remains cleaned out). I may have seen something like the taller glass in that set somewhere like Jahn's (regional chain of ice cream parlors established in 1897 per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jahn%27s) or one of the luncheonettes we occasionally went to in the 1960s and 1970s. > On 3/24/2016 4:56 PM, Sharon Collier wrote: >> The arts and crafts movement shunned mass produced items. So, how about >> something like this: >> http://www.worldmarket.com/product/carats+barware.do?&from=fn Brenda F. Bell webwar...@earthlink.net Support me in riding the 2016 Tour de Cure to Stop Diabetes! http://main.diabetes.org/goto/tmana ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Smocks/Smocking; "Mouse-Proof"
Susan wrote: Hi all, I'm still here. I get fed up with facebook, and rarely with email lists, so happy to see people. I've refused to join Facebook. (That said, I am on Twitter, Google+, and LinkedIn.) Since you're all here ... I've just gotten interested in english smocks (18th - 19th c ones) and was debating making one. Cool! It was something that surprised me years ago, when I purchased a second-hand book I expected to be mostly smocking patterns. (_Smocks and Smocking_, by Beverley Marshall, 1981 Van Nostrand Reinhold: New York, ISBN 0-442-28269-9 paperback edition of Alphabooks UK 1980 hardcover). Marshall tries to disambiguate body-garment smocks from protective-overgarment smocks, decorative smocks, and smocking (needlework technique), showing examples of all of the above (with a number of the garments exhibiting variations of the needlework technique). RE: Mouse-Proof: On page 14 of _Smocks and Smocking_, Marshall describes the attire of Victorian smock-wearing laborers: "Trousers were made of fustian' or 'moleskin': a strong twilled cotton with a smooth matt surface favoured by the labourer for its resemblance to their earlier leather breeches. THey were hitched up under the knee by a leather strap or simply a piee of string, good for preventing field mice and insects from running up the wearer's legs." From which one might surmise that Miss Browning's knickers might have been made of a smooth, sturdy fabric and bound tightly to the leg at the lower edges. Brenda F. Bell webwar...@earthlink.net Support me in riding the 2016 Tour de Cure to Stop Diabetes! http://main.diabetes.org/goto/tmana ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Is h-costume still going?
From: Carol Kocian To: Historical Costume Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2015 01:17:40 -0500 Reply-To: Historical Costume Message-ID: Subject: [h-cost] Is h-costume still going? Hi all, Is h-costume still going? Sadly, I'm mostly GAFIAted from costuming in general, and historical costuming in particular, on account of logistics (no room in which to work, need the money for work clothes, work schedule prohibits much else). My current project is a "bucket list" attempt at making a gingerbread house (and transporting it 300+ miles). My on-hold needlework project is completing a Craftsy course that explains the differences between English, Continental, and Portuguese knitting styles (I knit mostly Eastern because that's how I learned and it's the only way that makes sense if you knit ambidextrously). Brenda webwar...@earthlink.net PFS #47 Support me in riding the 2016 Tour de Cure to Stop Diabetes! http://main.diabetes.org/goto/tmana ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] h-costume on facebook?
From: Carol Kocian Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2015 14:13:50 -0400 Subject: [h-cost] h-costume on facebook? Does h-costume have a presence on facebook? Someone was just asking for an all-era sewing group, not just for patterns, not just for challenges, but a place to discuss and ask questions. Thanks! -Carol From: Patricia Dunham Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2015 12:01:19 -0700 Subject: Re: [h-cost] h-costume on facebook? Message: 2 I hope not, or if so, that it is an open site I don't care to turn my life over to the world via Facebook and SO many research sites there are locked up where you can't see the info! I'd encourage folk to join mailing lists like this one -- even though it's "older technology", there are no issues with Facebook's constantly changing privacy settings, harvesting user information, and so on. (I have not, and will not, join Facebook. That said, I *am* on LinkedIn, Google+, Twitter, Pinterest, and a number of Yahoo groups, which *also* do a bunch of privacy invasion/info harvesting). Brenda F. Bell webwar...@earthlink.net Support me in riding the 2015 Tour de Cure to Stop Diabetes! http://main.diabetes.org/goto/tmana ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Pomona Green: vote now! (Hope Greenberg)
At 02:00 PM 1/19/2015, Hope Greenberg wrote: All agreed that they seemed to fall into 3 categories: emerald (or blue-ish), olive, grassy. The version attached here is not particularly sorted and it has five clips at the top of the second page that actually included the name "pomona" in their descriptions. Interesting! This is challenging my thoughts of classifying greens. I'll agree with emerald being a blueish green, but usually not quite as blue as a pthalo green, and some of the craft paints I've seen called "viridian" seem to fall in the same group. I don't usually think of "grassy" greens as yellowish: those are usually referred to as "spring green" or "pea green", even though the greens I see in spring are not all that yellow. Most "olive" greens are yellowish towards the brown, and most "sage" greens a bit light and towards the gray -- but here I'm seeing colors I'd call "sage" that are more towards the brown, and "olives" that are not as brown as I usually perceive them. One factor in this is brightness, since I normally think of sage as a somewhat washed-out color, and those brownish greens are more washed-out than I usually think of as olives. Another factor is "lighting accommodation": when it looks like the image has color-shifted (either because the scene had been transcribed with color-shifted lighting, or because the image had shifted color over time), my brain will "correct" colors to what they "should have been" without the color cast. Sharon Collier notes: "...the elusiveness of keeping that color". This is exactly the problem I have. My sage green sleeves and forepart have faded to a yellow-ish green. Not as nice a color as I originally had. Interesting. I normally wouldn't have considered sage as fading towards the yellow... All sorts of questions are popping up in my head about the types of dyes and/or pigments used in the garment, and the environmental factors that have led to its fading... Brenda F. Bell webwar...@earthlink.net Support me in riding the 2015 Tour de Cure to Stop Diabetes! http://main.diabetes.org/goto/tmana ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] New York garment district
AtMon, 01 Dec 2014 22:27:11 -0800, humbugfo...@att.net wrote: Also, I've checked the Met and FITM for costume exhibits and there doesn't seem to be anything particularly exciting on their schedules. Can anyone suggest any other museums or exhibitions that would have (historical) costumes on display? I'd check the People Center at the American Museum of Natural History for costumes of indigenous peoples. I might also check the Museum of the City of New York, the New York Historical Society, the Museum of Folk Art, and the American Crafts Museum to see if there will be any interesting exhibits. You might also check to see if you can do some specific study at the Met's Costume Institute, if there's something particular you wish to research. Brenda F. Bell webwar...@earthlink.net Support me in riding the 2015 Tour de Cure to Stop Diabetes! http://main.diabetes.org/goto/tmana ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Anyone here?
I'm here, but mostly haven't had the time to dedicate to costuming, or the money to go to renfaires, recently. I am NOT on Facebook (don't agree with their ToS). I AM on Twitter, tweeting mostly for the diabetes community, and I'm on Pinterest, though I'm not terribly active there. I'm also on LinkedIn, but again, use that mostly in conjunction with health activities. Brenda F. Bell webwar...@earthlink.net Support me in riding the 2015 Tour de Cure to Stop Diabetes! http://main.diabetes.org/goto/tmana ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] My Aiguillettes Page has moved
I'm moving my pages from Earthlink over to webwarren.com (our own domain). My page on making aiguillettes is now at http://n2kye.webwarren.com/aiguillettes/ Please pass on the information and update your bookmarks appropriately. Brenda F. Bell webwar...@earthlink.net Support me in the 2011 JDRF Walk to Stop Diabetes by pledging at http://www2.jdrf.org/goto/bfbell ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Vietnamese loom
At Sat, 7 Feb 2009 11:47:37 +1100, stils...@netspace.net.au wrote: ...You can vary the thread for colour as you go but, amazingly in Bali, I saw thread pre-dyed at various points so as to create a regular pattern. I would give twenty zillion dollars for my brane to remember the term for this technique but it is 115 degrees here and I am not about to go thinking. Still, the pattern is fantastic, a little blurred at the edges due to the in-exact way the pattern comes out. I believe that technique is called "ikat". Brenda webwar...@earthlink.net Help support a cure for diabetes -- visit my JDRF walk page at http://walk.jdrf.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=extranet.personalpage&confirmid=87065186 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: Re: [h-cost] Re: "Future clothing"
Wed, 13 Jul 2005 17:08:32 -0700, Lavolta Press <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Something retro. The fashion industry has been mining retro (or history) since, heck, since about 1800. Maybe 20 years from now, the 1980s, 1990s, and early 2000s all mixed together? 30 years from now, they can start swiping from some years later in the 2000s. That sounds a lot like what the '90's were like... 40's shoulder pads, 50's "crinoline" skirts, and... hmm... some of the Mod and Rocker looks of the 60's/early 70's, plus add in the 50's "biker" look (often redone in black as "punk") and the "Goth" look... Maybe they can do the Geek Look. Recalling the glamorous years of being able to make (or lose) a killing in high-tech start-up stocks. Of course, the really distinctive geek accessories were old-fashioned by the 1980s--the plastic reinforcer for the ballpoint pen in the shirt pocket, the stack of punch cards, and thick glasses. But I could see them being labeled 1980s-90s anyway. The pocket protector would hold your iPod or your Smart Phone... Geek glasses almost seem to be back, but for women. Then there were the high-water pants worn with mismatched sweat socks, the crew-necked undershirt sticking out the unbuttoned collar of the shirt... In short, the "Are You a Nerd?" poster of circa 1980 that was marketed alongside the "Are You a Preppy?" (male and female versions) posters. FWIW, the one on my door was the "Are You A JAP?" version -- while *I* wasn't, I grew up in a town where most of the Conservative and Reformed Jewish girls... *were*. I notice Lord & Taylor has had a lot of Scooter Skirts this spring/summer. 'Course there's another name for it now... There might be some new synthetics, but I'd wonder _how_ new. I'm not a textile expert, but a number of the "new" ones now seem to be minor variants on rayon, polyester, and--Lycra? What is the forerunner of Spandex? Maybe there will be a new textile that provides extra sun protection? One of the very interesting new fibers that's being worked with is Holofiber, which IIRC aligns microprisms in a polyester matrix. It conducts light of certain wavelengths from the outside surface of the fabric to the inside; at current, it is used mostly in specialized medical applications (wound healing). In other words, I see fashion evolving along the same lines it's been evolving in for some time. I could see some sort of new electronics that would spur a need for special pockets in clothing and purses. Checkout the clothing sold at http://www.scottevest.com -- they've been doing hidden/specialty pockets for years, now! Maybe a combination small personal computer (but the monitor would be terribly small, unless you could magnify the image) and picture cell phone. What I've seen people talking about is a HUD that displays on your spectacles (think of "Augur's" specialized glasses in _Earth: Final Conflict_)... As for nanotech within the human body, I don't see it happening except for people who are fatally ill or otherwise medically desperate, for whom it is worth the substantial risks. If you've ever had a few problems with your Miscrosoft programs, can you imagine what buggy software could do INSIDE YOU? Hey, most humans already *have* "buggy software" inside them. Otherwise, how would you account for genetically-based diseases, cancers, even such common medical problems as bunions and Metabolic Syndrome? Though I should certainly hate to have to believe that Mr. Gates and Mr. Ballmer are G-d and Jesus rolled into one... Brenda [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Re: "Future clothing"
What will be interesting will be to examine our ideas of what clothing will be like 20 years from now, 20-30 years from now to see how far off the mark we were... Back in grade school, when we still had weekly "Assembly" marked by performances from each class in the grade (each week a different class), one of the classes put on a "history of fashion" show. I recall this being during the 1967-68 school year, and the group of classes was first- and second-graders (6-, 7-, and 8-year-olds). The show ended with a look at "fashions of the future" which, for the purpose of the presentation, was approximately 1980. The two girls modelling this "look" were wearing metallic-looking clothes (I believe one had on a jumper of silvery bonded-knit lamé, with a gold large-link chain belt worn at hip-level). Around us, the NASA space program was in full-swing and we fully expected to be able to travel to the Moon and Mars easily within our lifetimes -- the cartoon program _The Jetsons_ was a very plausible "future reality" for us. The metallics represented the future for us, space travel and space suits and the idea of these lines and fabrics trickling down into everyday apparel. As it turned out, the only element of that grade-school "fashion show" that was "prescient" about 1980 is that we still had some below-the-waist styles of lower-garments -- hip-huggers had not yet died out completely. On the other hand, George Jetson's front-ladder-laced polo shirt is little more than a solid-color version of the broad-striped "rugby shirt" of the 'seventies and early 'eighties, or today's ubiquitous polo shirt -- and the highly-structured collars and shoulder treatments of Jane and Judy Jetsons' dresses survived, morphed into the ultra-broad-shouldered, structured and highly-graphically-oriented "power suits" Bob Mackie created for the "Alexis Carrington Colby" character in _Dynasty_. Some of the more dystopic looks at the future would have had us all in "Mao suits" by now; yet the women's "power suit" of the '80's (ref John T. Malloy, "The Women's Dress for Success Book") is almost impossible to find in a modern cut and many workplaces encourage creativity in self-presentation to a degree that would have seemed unthinkable even a deacade ago. So... camoflage "Mao" suits with metal plate interlinings? Shirts and shifts because nobody can afford outer garments (except the very rich)? All-natural fibers? All synthetic fibers? Holographically-projected clothing (now *there's* "The Emperor's New Suit of Clothes" for ya...) Brenda [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Going round in circles... (The T-shirts and pants things)
Coming back to the thread on "droopy drawers" for the moment, The one thing
the droopy drawers (I mean, jeans) -- worn most frequently with
knee-length, greatly-oversized T-shirts (or sports jerseys, or tanks,
or...) -- reminds me of is, all the threads on this list and others about
shirtes and trews. I have to chuckle at these young kids going around in
what looks like their (somewhat updated!) underwear!
Then again, we've had the "camisole top", "chemise dress", and "slip
skirt/petticoat skirt" trends going in and out of style for young women
over the past 25 years or so, that it's probably about time for young men
to go around in "underwear-as-outerwear"...
OTTH, the first time I saw **T-shirts** that oversized in style, they were
shown in a junior/misses/women's ("Hey, tourist gal! Buy this as a souvenir
of Miami Beach, 1980!") shop, one side knotted up at just-below-crotch
height, worn either as a beach coverup or over leggings.
The thing that really bugs me about current styles, though -- other than
the "I have a loaded diaper under my pants" look -- are the super-low-cuts
that require the wearer shave or wax off *everything* below the navel and
make even the slimmest of women look pregnant.
Worse, I think this look triggers anorexia since some of the slim teens and
young women who have bought into this look show up on health-and-fitness
sites such as SELF magazine's "healthy eating forum" severely underweight
and asking how to lose weight to get rid of their "pooch" (natural belly
curvature). An interesting side-note is that to my eyes, the media only
seem to acknowledge anorexia nervosa (which I understand to be a continuing
problem among women at least going back to the 1920's and probably back to
Victorian days, if not further) when the current style for females is for
hip-huggers/low-riders/"waistline"-exposes-part-of-the-belly slacks...
Then again, given the choice of seeing large numbers of obese women who
think they look fine in tight-fitting, belly-exposing tank-tops with
super-low-slung jeans, or those obese women being afraid to go out in
public because they believe they *don't* look fine in any sort of modern
clothes (and therefore stress-eat themselves into even worse obesity)...
viewing the exposed bellies has *got* to be the better choice...
Brenda
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