Re: [h-cost] minimum yardage for 14/15th century kirtle

2007-03-22 Thread Helen Pinto
ot; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 3:09 AM Subject: Re: [h-cost] minimum yardage for 14/15th century kirtle Look at "The Seven Sacraments" and a "Deposition" by Jan van Eyck and the Gravende a

Re: [h-cost] minimum yardage for 14/15th century kirtle

2007-03-21 Thread Elizabeth Walpole
Look at "The Seven Sacraments" and a "Deposition" by Jan van Eyck and the Gravende altarpiece by Hans Memlng. This dress is in there, seams visible. Good luck with the project, -Helen/Aidan I looked at the Web Gallery of Art and found those first two titles by Rogier van der W

Re: [h-cost] minimum yardage for 14/15th century kirtle

2007-03-21 Thread Elizabeth Walpole
thanks everyone for your suggestions, I'll have to play around with the layout on paper and see if I can squeeze something useable from the yardage I've got. Elizabeth - Original Message - From: "Elizabeth Walpole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Historic Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: We

RE: [h-cost] minimum yardage for 14/15th century kirtle

2007-03-21 Thread Sharon Collier
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 3:08 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] minimum yardage for 14/15th century kirtle I think we're a similar size & height, so some of the layouts that I use might help: http://www.formfunction.o

RE: [h-cost] minimum yardage for 14/15th century kirtle

2007-03-21 Thread Debloughcostumes
It's completely possible. It will take time, and thought, and I'd suggest drawing the pattern out on paper first, and cutting as many paper pieces as you'll need in cloth. That way you can work it out (lay the cloth on the floor, and lay the pattern pieces on top - trial and error til

Re: [h-cost] minimum yardage for 14/15th century kirtle

2007-03-21 Thread formfunc
I think we're a similar size & height, so some of the layouts that I use might help: http://www.formfunction.org/temp/4-gore1.gif http://www.formfunction.org/temp/4-gore2.gif http://www.formfunction.org/temp/4-gore3.gif http://www.formfunction.org/temp/4-gore4.gif http://www.formfunction.org/tem

RE: [h-cost] minimum yardage for 14/15th century kirtle

2007-03-21 Thread otsisto
I have you thought of going Florentine, late 1400s? http://festiveattyre.com/research/earlyflor/portfolio.html or Venice? http://www.renaissancewoman.net/realmofvenus/wardrobe/artgallery1.htm -Original Message- > OK I've gone all waffly in this post but the summary is I've got 3 & 3/4 > y

Re: [h-cost] minimum yardage for 14/15th century kirtle

2007-03-21 Thread Helen Pinto
There's a kirtle that show up in the second half of the 15th c. It has a scoop neck, laces up the front, has a four-piece bodice with high armscyes, short sleeves (with long sleeves pinned on), a waist seam and a gored skirt set on mostly smoothly. You should be able to that dress out of nearly

Re: [h-cost] minimum yardage for 14/15th century kirtle

2007-03-21 Thread Dawn
Elizabeth Walpole wrote: OK I've gone all waffly in this post but the summary is I've got 3 & 3/4 yds of fabric and I need a 15th century kirtle either with short sleeves do you think it's plausible either with or without piecing, opinions and shared experiences are welcome. I know I can d

Re: [h-cost] minimum yardage for 14/15th century kirtle

2007-03-21 Thread Catrijn vanden Westhende
On 3/21/07, Elizabeth Walpole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I was planning to use a modified version of Burda 7977 http://preview.tinyurl.com/2jq7jr but it calls for nearly 6 yards and I don't think the changing the sleeves will save me 2 yards of fabric OK I've gone all waffly in this post but the

Re: [h-cost] minimum yardage for 14/15th century kirtle

2007-03-21 Thread Robin Netherton
On Wed, 21 Mar 2007, Elizabeth Walpole wrote: For 3 & 3/4 yd of 45" wide fabric, particularly in dark gold silk noil, consider this: http://www.wga.hu/frames-e.html?/html/g/gentiles/orazio/luteplay.html I once did this out of two wool scraps that totaled about 2 1/2 yards (OK, they were 60 inch

Re: [h-cost] minimum yardage for 14/15th century kirtle

2007-03-21 Thread Robin Netherton
On Wed, 21 Mar 2007, Elizabeth Walpole wrote: > I'm a size 18-20 in big 3 patterns and 5'10" tall ... For those with > more experience in this area would you expect to be able to squeeze a > short sleeved 4 panel (bust supporting) kirtle out of about 3 & 3/4 > yd of 45" wide fabric, preferably w

RE: [h-cost] minimum yardage for 14/15th century kirtle

2007-03-21 Thread Linda Rice
Elizabeth, what is the width of your silk? I'm a size 24-26 and 5'10" and can easily make a kyrtle or gown out of 3 yards of fabric, if it's at least 58" wide. Gotta love those simple, no-waste cuts! (There's really no need for a paper pattern for simple gowns like this, in fact they tend to waste