Re: [h-cost] Victorian Hair: hair receptacle

2010-05-04 Thread Marjorie Wilser
But wool has scales on the fibres that help the felting process hair doesn't. Nylon net. . . well, I don't want any of that stuff on my scalp :-D (of course, this _is_ Penny's topic, not mine!) == Marjorie On May 3, 2010, at 10:49 PM, Sharon Collier wrote: You could try nylon

Re: [h-cost] Victorian Hair: hair receptacle

2010-05-04 Thread landofoz
But wool has scales on the fibres that help the felting process hair doesn't. Nylon net. . . well, I don't want any of that stuff on my scalp :-D (of course, this _is_ Penny's topic, not mine!) Hair does have scales, just not the same as wool. Anyway -- scales are not necessary for

Re: [h-cost] Victorian Hair: hair receptacle

2010-05-04 Thread Alexandria Doyle
Oh yes, hair has scales and will felt! I had a lock of human hair that I dyed along with some other thing I was dying black. I had to basically card the hair afterwards to work out all the matting, think dred locks... alex On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 6:17 AM, landofoz lando...@netins.net wrote:

Re: [h-cost] Victorian Hair: hair receptacle

2010-05-04 Thread Richard Harper
I have a past life as a theatrical hairdresser working in New York and regionally in plays, musicals and operas, and we built rats out of nylon net to use for wigs and hairstyles with the actors' own hair. Simply pick a color of net similar to the hair shade, draw up a shirred length with needle

Re: [h-cost] Victorian Hair: hair receptacle

2010-05-03 Thread Penny Ladnier
Someone in another post mentioned hair receptacle. I purchased an antique ceramic hair receptacle a few months ago at an estate sale. I have no idea how old it is. It is in two pieces that are donut shaped they sit one upon the other. I have been collecting hair after washing my hair and

Re: [h-cost] Victorian Hair: hair receptacle

2010-05-03 Thread Elizabeth Walpole
On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 1:27 PM, Penny Ladnier penn...@costumegallery.comwrote: Now, for making the rat...would it work best to place the hair in panty hose before using it in my hair? I've heard 'invisible' hair nets plus some hairspray recommended by those who've done it before. Pantyhose

Re: [h-cost] Victorian Hair: hair receptacle

2010-05-03 Thread ladybeanofbunny1
Costume lt;h-cost...@indra.comgt; Sent: Mon, May 3, 2010 11:54 pm Subject: Re: [h-cost] Victorian Hair: hair receptacle On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 1:27 PM, Penny Ladnier lt;penn...@costumegallery.comgt;wrote: gt; gt; gt; Now, for making the rat...would it work best to place the hair in panty gt

Re: [h-cost] Victorian Hair: hair receptacle

2010-05-03 Thread Marjorie Wilser
Penny, Panty hose nylon is murder to put hairpins through, and hatpins would just run it. Then there's the color issue already mentioned. I should think almost anything else would work better. I would despair of ever getting a cover to match my own hair, which is now available in

Re: [h-cost] Victorian Hair: hair receptacle

2010-05-03 Thread Marjorie Wilser
Penny, A little googling yielded the term water soluble fusible and the following (which doesn't seem exactly what I was trying to tell you about!!): There's a water-soluble fusible tape, called Wonder Tape, which rinses out after construction is complete, and which therefore doesn't

Re: [h-cost] Victorian Hair: hair receptacle

2010-05-03 Thread Sharon Collier
[mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Marjorie Wilser Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 10:33 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Victorian Hair: hair receptacle Penny, Panty hose nylon is murder to put hairpins through, and hatpins would just run it. Then there's the color issue already

Re: [h-cost] Victorian Hair:

2010-04-30 Thread Claire Clarke
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 12:32:31 +0100 From: Anne anne.montgome...@googlemail.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] Victorian Hair: Message-ID: 4bd81ccf.2080...@googlemail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I would be really interested

Re: [h-cost] Victorian hair

2010-04-29 Thread Kate Bunting
Good to see your picture, Robin, after reading your postings on this list all these years. I see you have quite a high forehead. My hair, as well as being extremely thick, grows so low in front that when I used to wear it long (many years ago) it was very difficult to keep it from falling over

Re: [h-cost] Victorian Hair:

2010-04-29 Thread michaela de bruce
After much effort and little discovery though, arranging my hair in a nice period coiffure seems entirely inpossible! Many people I know chose to wear wigs or hair pieces when in costume and although this looks very nice, I have been painstakingly growing out and caring for my own hair for

Re: [h-cost] Victorian Hair:

2010-04-28 Thread Penny Ladnier
This is a thought...take an image of what you want and take it to a hairdresser that does bridal styles. Ask them if they can recreate the style. There are hairdressers that specialize in bridal up-dos. Penny Ladnier (who grew my hair long in the early 1980s to look like Laura's hair on

Re: [h-cost] Victorian Hair:

2010-04-28 Thread Anne
I would be really interested to hear the result, if you choose this approach, because, to be honest, I never had much luck. My hair is just to my waist, and I have found that hairdressers are more practised in putting up hair that is to shoulder-blades or shorter. They don't seem to know

Re: [h-cost] Victorian Hair:

2010-04-28 Thread Beteena Paradise
. (There is one exception but that was because she was interested in historic hair.) From: Anne anne.montgome...@googlemail.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Wed, April 28, 2010 12:32:31 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Victorian Hair: I would

Re: [h-cost] Victorian Hair:

2010-04-28 Thread Chiara Francesca
Here is something that I threw together decades ago from an old doll pattern, hope it helps. :) http://www.glove.org/costume/hair/ ♫ Chiara Francesca Which 'Chiara'...?? Nah... wasn't me ;-) -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com]

Re: [h-cost] Victorian Hair:

2010-04-28 Thread Sharon Collier
. They have photos in a book outside the booth. -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Anne Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 4:33 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Victorian Hair: I would be really interested to hear

Re: [h-cost] Victorian Hair:

2010-04-28 Thread Sharon Collier
Many people save their hair, the stuff that ends up in their brush, for use in fancy hair styles. They make a rat of it and pin/arrange the rest of the hair over it. Also, many fancy hairstyles used false pieces. There is a scene in Jefferson In Paris, where the daughter is upset, and pulls her

Re: [h-cost] Victorian Hair:

2010-04-28 Thread Robin Netherton
Sharon Collier wrote: Many people save their hair, the stuff that ends up in their brush, for use in fancy hair styles. They make a rat of it and pin/arrange the rest of the hair over it. Also, many fancy hairstyles used false pieces. There is a scene in Jefferson In Paris, where the daughter is

Re: [h-cost] Victorian Hair:

2010-04-28 Thread Lavolta Press
On 4/27/2010 11:08 PM, ladybeanofbun...@aol.com wrote: Hello fellow costumers. ? I wanted to thank those of you who offered your suggestions on mounting swags onto my 1880s balldress. Your advice helped immensely in the creation process and everything went together mostly as planned. My only

Re: [h-cost] Victorian Hair:

2010-04-28 Thread Lavolta Press
One option is to overload the hair with gels, powders, or other additives when you do the styling, to make it stickier, but this can get pretty nasty and heavy, and may cause other problems with the styling. Another solution -- but this takes a longer-term commitment -- is to adopt a pre-modern

Re: [h-cost] Victorian Hair:

2010-04-28 Thread Robin Netherton
Lavolta Press wrote: For the 19th century at least, the they got the texture and body by never washing their hair is a reenactor's myth. In fact, people were using the equivalents of modern hair products, whether these came in a bottle with a label or not. You're right about that; it's an

Re: [h-cost] Victorian Hair:

2010-04-28 Thread albertcat
In addition to directions for sponge-washing the hair without immersing the whole head--where much of the soap would likely remain in the hair after the process is over and therefore stiffen it--there are period arguments for and against vigorously immersing and washing the whole head full of

Re: [h-cost] Victorian Hair:

2010-04-28 Thread Carol Kocian
There are salons that specialize in long hair, conditioning rather than cutting. While they may also have modern sensibilities regarding styles, they do know how to handle long lengths. The idea of bringing a picture or two is a good one. The George Michael Salon in New York

Re: [h-cost] Victorian Hair:

2010-04-28 Thread Penny Ladnier
Carol, Is the long hair email list that you and I belonged to still around? I offered to pick up the list when they were closing it. but never heard back from the owner. Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 14 websites of fashion, textiles, costume

Re: [h-cost] Victorian Hair:

2010-04-28 Thread Penny Ladnier
I collect hair care and style articles. They are in the subscription area of my Library, http://www.pasthairstyles.com/. I have hair care manuals online from 1899 and 1911. A study in the 1899 manual about women marriage success according to their hair color. It is so funny! I have several

Re: [h-cost] Victorian Hair:

2010-04-28 Thread Lavolta Press
When I was using a run of 1867-1868 _Harper's Bazars_ for _Reconstruction Era Fashions_, what struck me were the numerous descriptions purchased chignons, a term used to cover a wide variety of hair pieces/styles attached more or less to the back of the head. I put some of this information in

Re: [h-cost] Victorian Hair:

2010-04-28 Thread ladybeanofbunny1
DVLGS Organizer www.DVLGS.org -Original Message- From: Lavolta Press lt;f...@lavoltapress.comgt; To: Historical Costume lt;h-cost...@indra.comgt; Sent: Wed, Apr 28, 2010 9:57 pm Subject: Re: [h-cost] Victorian Hair: When I was using a run of 1867-1868 _Harper's Bazars_

Re: [h-cost] Victorian Hair:

2010-04-28 Thread ladybeanofbunny1
: [h-cost] Victorian Hair: In addition to directions for sponge-washing the hair without immersing the whole head--where much of the soap would likely remain in the hair after the process is over and therefore stiffen it--there are period arguments for and against vigorously immersing

Re: [h-cost] Victorian Hair:

2010-04-28 Thread Lavolta Press
On 4/28/2010 7:28 PM, ladybeanofbun...@aol.com wrote: There is a very good reason why people did not bathe that way until warmer weather and it had a lot to do with the simple fact that it was too cold to do so in winter. The 1820s advice manuals for the middle classes that I used for