Re: [h-cost] What period is this Butterick from?
On Tuesday 04 August 2009 9:31:59 pm Sharon Nevin wrote: Hi, This is slightly off-topic but I'm curious and I figured this list would probably be best to answer. The latest fall Buttericks are out and there is one Making History pattern. Usually I can guess where they have drawn their inspiration from and what period that they are imitating but this is one is puzzling me. If you had to assign a time period what date would you give for this: http://www.butterick.com/item/B5405.htm?tab=costumespage=1 Modern, but the sleeves look vaguely 1890s-ish to me. -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com A great pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do. --Walter Bagehot ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What period is this Butterick from?...... 1940....totally agree
Agree with that call. My mom's weddding dress was a Rettingcoat / Rettingote (sp) style dress with the under dress styled exactly like theirs.It's heavy satin and lace insertion. The overcoat is cathedreal length and the sleeves cut a little smaller with lace inserts. She was married in 1940. I have the dress I didn't wear it,but I did prevent it from becoming my sisters kid's dress up toy. melody --- On Tue, 8/4/09, Käthe Barrows kay...@gmail.com wrote: From: Käthe Barrows kay...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] What period is this Butterick from? To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2009, 8:17 PM If you had to assign a time period what date would you give for this: http://www.butterick.com/item/B5405.htm?tab=costumespage=1 1940s? -- Carolyn Kayta Barrows -- “The future is already here, it is just unevenly distributed.” -William Gibson -- ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What period is this Butterick from?
so what do we do now ,Brain'? Same thing we do everyday day Pinkie, plot to take over the world Si? melody --- On Tue, 8/4/09, Chiara Francesca chiara.france...@gmail.com wrote: From: Chiara Francesca chiara.france...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] What period is this Butterick from? To: 'Historical Costume' h-cost...@indra.com Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2009, 10:06 PM I agree, 30's, raglan sleeve era and those nip tucks under the boobage. But really now, velvet? Sigh. This would hang so much better with bias cut bridal silk. Think: end of WWII, Big Bands, Hollywood glamour. ♫ Chiara Francesca « Ehi Prof.! Che cosa facciamo stasera?» « Quello che facciamo tutte le sere, Mignolo: tentare di conquistare il mondo! » (hint: italian) -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of otsisto Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 9:19 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] What period is this Butterick from? You are looking at probably mid to late 1930s. Possibly a transition dress. May or may not have shoulder pads. Kind of the style http://www.antiquedress.com/item4548.htm http://www.antiquedress.com/item4295.htm http://tinyurl.com/moabph This gives styles of the early `30s to give an idea of what I mean by it possibly being transitional. http://www.agelesspatterns.com/1930s.htm Think Faye Wray movies. :) Then again, the style somewhat repeated in the `80s so maybe it is 1980. :) De -Original Message- Hi, This is slightly off-topic but I'm curious and I figured this list would probably be best to answer. The latest fall Buttericks are out and there is one Making History pattern. Usually I can guess where they have drawn their inspiration from and what period that they are imitating but this is one is puzzling me. If you had to assign a time period what date would you give for this: http://www.butterick.com/item/B5405.htm?tab=costumespage=1 Sharon Nevin ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What period is this Butterick from?
I agree, 30's, raglan sleeve era and those nip tucks under the boobage. But eally now, velvet? Sigh. This would hang so much better with bias cut bridal ilk. Well, there are velvets and velvets--some are pretty slinky. I have a dress that belonged to my husband's grandmother, very similar to this one, in maroon velvet, but the dress itself has the sleeves (raglan, I think, but not this exaggerated), and there is a gold flower at the neckline. Ann Wass -Original Message- From: Melody Watts celticredhead2...@yahoo.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Wed, Aug 5, 2009 4:29 am Subject: Re: [h-cost] What period is this Butterick from? so what do we do now ,Brain'? Same thing we do everyday day Pinkie, plot to take over the world i? elody --- On Tue, 8/4/09, Chiara Francesca chiara.france...@gmail.com wrote: rom: Chiara Francesca chiara.france...@gmail.com ubject: Re: [h-cost] What period is this Butterick from? o: 'Historical Costume' h-cost...@indra.com ate: Tuesday, August 4, 2009, 10:06 PM agree, 30's, raglan sleeve era and those nip tucks under the boobage. But eally now, velvet? Sigh. This would hang so much better with bias cut bridal ilk. Think: end of WWII, Big Bands, Hollywood glamour. ♫ hiara Francesca Ehi Prof.! Che cosa facciamo stasera?» Quello che facciamo tutte le sere, Mignolo: tentare di conquistare il mondo! » hint: italian) -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On B ehalf Of otsisto Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 9:19 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] What period is this Butterick from? You are looking at probably mid to late 1930s. Possibly a transition dress. May or may not have shoulder pads. Kind of the style http://www.antiquedress.com/item4548.htm http://www.antiquedress.com/item4295.htm http://tinyurl.com/moabph This gives styles of the early `30s to give an idea of what I mean by it possibly being transitional. http://www.agelesspatterns.com/1930s.htm Think Faye Wray movies. :) Then again, the style somewhat repeated in the `80s so maybe it is 1980. :) De -Original Message- Hi, This is slightly off-topic but I'm curious and I figured this list would probably be best to answer. The latest fall Buttericks are out and there is one Making History pattern. Usually I can guess where they have drawn their inspiration from and what period that they are imitating but this is one is puzzling me. If you had to assign a time period what date would you give for this: http://www.butterick.com/item/B5405.htm?tab=costumespage=1 Sharon Nevin ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ -costume mailing list -cost...@mail.indra.com ttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume __ -costume mailing list -cost...@mail.indra.com ttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What period is this Butterick from?
Actually, WWII started in 1939, so it would be think pre WWII. :) De -Original Message- --- On Tue, 8/4/09, Chiara Francesca chiara.france...@gmail.com wrote: Think: end of WWII, Big Bands, Hollywood glamour. ♫ Chiara Francesca ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What period is this Butterick from?
heh .. I did not mean to be EXACT. Just in general. :) But I agree with the other poster on a different thread who saved her mom's wedding dress from the time period. :) Chiara On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 10:03 AM, otsisto otsi...@socket.net wrote: Actually, WWII started in 1939, so it would be think pre WWII. :) De -Original Message- --- On Tue, 8/4/09, Chiara Francesca chiara.france...@gmail.com wrote: Think: end of WWII, Big Bands, Hollywood glamour. ♫ Chiara Francesca ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What period is this Butterick from?
Not really any more accurate than any historical patterns from the big companies, but classic 30s. There was a huge vogue for 'medieval-esque' dresses in the 30s that could have fitted quite happily in earlier periods (in terms of some design features). They were largely made in velvet, a dead giveaway. D In a message dated 05/08/2009 19:02:38 GMT Standard Time, h-costume-requ...@indra.com writes: Re: [h-cost] What period is this Butterick from? ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What period is this Butterick from?
The pattern is not trying to be medievaloid. It's very Hollywood starlette. -Original Message- There was a huge vogue for 'medieval-esque' dresses in the 30s that could have fitted quite happily in earlier periods (in terms of some design features). They were largely made in velvet, a dead giveaway. D ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What period is this Butterick from?
At 06:31 PM 8/4/2009, you wrote: Hi, This is slightly off-topic but I'm curious and I figured this list would probably be best to answer. The latest fall Buttericks are out and there is one Making History pattern. Usually I can guess where they have drawn their inspiration from and what period that they are imitating but this is one is puzzling me. If you had to assign a time period what date would you give for this: http://www.butterick.com/item/B5405.htm?tab=costumespage=1 Sharon Nevin I'd guess the 1880's aesthetic dress fad: romantic Victorian interpretation of medieval(ish) dress. Joan Jurancich joa...@surewest.net ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What period is this Butterick from?
If you had to assign a time period what date would you give for this: http://www.butterick.com/item/B5405.htm?tab=costumespage=1 1940s? -- Carolyn Kayta Barrows -- “The future is already here, it is just unevenly distributed.” -William Gibson -- ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What period is this Butterick from?
Maybe the strange world of Art Deco? I've never seen shoulder wing flaps like that. Sincerely, Rebecca Rautine Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 20:17:46 -0700 From: kay...@gmail.com To: h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] What period is this Butterick from? If you had to assign a time period what date would you give for this: http://www.butterick.com/item/B5405.htm?tab=costumespage=1 1940s? -- Carolyn Kayta Barrows -- “The future is already here, it is just unevenly distributed.” -William Gibson -- ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _ Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for Hotmail®. http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/LearnMore/personalize.aspx?ocid=PID23391::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HYGN_express:082009 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What period is this Butterick from?
You are looking at probably mid to late 1930s. Possibly a transition dress. May or may not have shoulder pads. Kind of the style http://www.antiquedress.com/item4548.htm http://www.antiquedress.com/item4295.htm http://tinyurl.com/moabph This gives styles of the early `30s to give an idea of what I mean by it possibly being transitional. http://www.agelesspatterns.com/1930s.htm Think Faye Wray movies. :) Then again, the style somewhat repeated in the `80s so maybe it is 1980. :) De -Original Message- Hi, This is slightly off-topic but I'm curious and I figured this list would probably be best to answer. The latest fall Buttericks are out and there is one Making History pattern. Usually I can guess where they have drawn their inspiration from and what period that they are imitating but this is one is puzzling me. If you had to assign a time period what date would you give for this: http://www.butterick.com/item/B5405.htm?tab=costumespage=1 Sharon Nevin ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What period is this Butterick from?
I agree, 30's, raglan sleeve era and those nip tucks under the boobage. But really now, velvet? Sigh. This would hang so much better with bias cut bridal silk. Think: end of WWII, Big Bands, Hollywood glamour. ♫ Chiara Francesca « Ehi Prof.! Che cosa facciamo stasera?» « Quello che facciamo tutte le sere, Mignolo: tentare di conquistare il mondo! » (hint: italian) -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of otsisto Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 9:19 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] What period is this Butterick from? You are looking at probably mid to late 1930s. Possibly a transition dress. May or may not have shoulder pads. Kind of the style http://www.antiquedress.com/item4548.htm http://www.antiquedress.com/item4295.htm http://tinyurl.com/moabph This gives styles of the early `30s to give an idea of what I mean by it possibly being transitional. http://www.agelesspatterns.com/1930s.htm Think Faye Wray movies. :) Then again, the style somewhat repeated in the `80s so maybe it is 1980. :) De -Original Message- Hi, This is slightly off-topic but I'm curious and I figured this list would probably be best to answer. The latest fall Buttericks are out and there is one Making History pattern. Usually I can guess where they have drawn their inspiration from and what period that they are imitating but this is one is puzzling me. If you had to assign a time period what date would you give for this: http://www.butterick.com/item/B5405.htm?tab=costumespage=1 Sharon Nevin ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
