Re: [h-cost] copyright law thing...

2010-05-13 Thread Debloughcostumes
Not getting into the whole copyright issue, as I'm not a lawyer, and it's one of the most complex laws there is, because of the international agreements (it's automatic here, btw, in the uk)... ...also as I have read the first part of the thread However, purely for the sake of

Re: [h-cost] copyright law thing...

2010-05-13 Thread Elena House
I've had to learn way more about copyright law than I ever wanted because I got into producing royalty free stock illustrations for an international company. Dealing with the copyright side of my work often takes much more time than the actual work. Since it is a truly international company,

Re: [h-cost] copyright law thing...

2010-05-13 Thread Lavolta Press
It makes me want to heave. But, as you've noted, the law is what you have to follow when using other people's work, not your personal standards. I have not noticed at all that art is being killed. Certainly, in terms of publications, there is a huge increase in the number of books

Re: [h-cost] copyright law thing...

2010-05-13 Thread Sharon Collier
, 2010 9:48 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] copyright law thing... It makes me want to heave. But, as you've noted, the law is what you have to follow when using other people's work, not your personal standards. I have not noticed at all that art is being killed. Certainly

Re: [h-cost] copyright law thing...

2010-05-13 Thread Lavolta Press
On 5/13/2010 11:29 AM, Sharon Collier wrote: I see the internet/emails/ h-costume list as a group of friends. Someone says,I have a book with an interesting picture. Someone else wants to borrow the book to look at the picture. If we were in the same town, the other person could just come to

Re: [h-cost] copyright law thing...

2010-05-13 Thread Lavolta Press
Oh yes, then you're using the willful confusion argument. Looking and reading are not the same as copying. Copyright law literally governs the right to make copies. Again, all I see here is people who don't want to bother paying for material or asking permission (pirates and parasites), so

Re: [h-cost] copyright law thing...

2010-05-13 Thread Lavolta Press
Again, all I see here is people who don't want to bother paying for material or asking permission (pirates and parasites), so they go round, and round, and round, and round, and round with arguments about why they personally shouldn't. Sorry, your feelings and your personal convenience do not

Re: [h-cost] copyright law thing...

2010-05-13 Thread Chris Laning
Fran, it sounds like you are saying that legally there is no such thing as fair use. If that's not the case, could you explain what constitutes fair use? OChris Laning clan...@igc.org - Davis, California +

Re: [h-cost] copyright law thing...

2010-05-13 Thread Lavolta Press
No Chris, I am not going to get run around on this one yet again, diligently looking up stuff for people who say they are confused and who then go round and round being yet more confused, all to the end of asserting they can do whatever they feel like. Read some books on copyright law. Fran

Re: [h-cost] copyright law thing...

2010-05-13 Thread Daniel Fenwick
For everyone who is terribly confused, here is a place to start. http://www.copyright.gov/ Understand that copyright violation can cost you huge sums of money in damages plus attorney's fees (which also tend to be large for those kinds of cases.) It's usually best to stick with a conservative

Re: [h-cost] copyright law thing...

2010-05-13 Thread Sharon Collier
: Re: [h-cost] copyright law thing... On 5/13/2010 11:29 AM, Sharon Collier wrote: I see the internet/emails/ h-costume list as a group of friends. Someone says,I have a book with an interesting picture. Someone else wants to borrow the book to look at the picture. If we were in the same town

Re: [h-cost] copyright law thing...

2010-05-13 Thread Daniel Fenwick
Simple answer, yes. Although you might manage to dig through copyright law and find an exception, I wouldn't know where. I was just curious. Is it infringement if it's just to one person? For an exchange of information? ___ h-costume mailing list

Re: [h-cost] copyright law thing...

2010-05-13 Thread R Lloyd Mitchell
/2010 12:04:48 PM To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] copyright law thing...I've had to learn way more about copyright law than I ever wanted because I got into producing royalty free stock illustrations for an international company. Dealing with the copyright side of my

Re: [h-cost] copyright law thing...

2010-05-13 Thread Lavolta Press
On 5/13/2010 2:30 PM, R Lloyd Mitchell wrote: Such clarity. Your thoughtful explanation is of great interest to me...one of those independents who strives to do Art with originality as well as craft. The laws that have been developed are suppose to be safe=guards... And they are. There is