Re: [hackers] Rebuilding the foundations of NNTP

2003-07-29 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
On Mon, Jul 28, 2003 at 03:11:23PM -0700, Kurt Cagle wrote: While I think that the commentary on NNTP is essentially correct -- we are rebuilding the foundation of NNTP, I want to raise a couple of issues that may justify just WHY such a rebuilding is necessary. I started working with NNTP

Re: [hackers] Rebuilding the foundations of NNTP

2003-07-29 Thread zachary rosen
Doing the aggregation / syndication stuff as NNTP doesn't make much sense to me. We are creating a web app, it should use web protocols. RSS is perfect for this kind of things. It forces us to create the network to be far simpler and open than if we did it with NNTP - and that is a very good

Re: [hackers] Rebuilding the foundations of NNTP

2003-07-29 Thread zachary rosen
On Tue, 29 Jul 2003, Ka-Ping Yee wrote: On Tue, 29 Jul 2003, zachary rosen wrote: Doing the aggregation / syndication stuff as NNTP doesn't make much sense to me. We are creating a web app, it should use web protocols. RSS is perfect for this kind of things. It forces us to create the

Re: [hackers] Rebuilding the foundations of NNTP

2003-07-29 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
On Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 12:10:35PM -0500, zachary rosen wrote: Doing the aggregation / syndication stuff as NNTP doesn't make much sense to me. We are creating a web app, it should use web protocols. RSS is perfect for this kind of things. It forces us to create the network to be far simpler

Re: [hackers] Rebuilding the foundations of NNTP

2003-07-29 Thread zachary rosen
I am sorry for misunderstanding what you guys where pushing for. I read the majority of this thread in a pretty stupored state, and then the rest of it i read quickly before I rushed off to lunch. I was under the mistaken impression that there was support for using the actual NNTP protocol over

Re: [hackers] Rebuilding the foundations of NNTP

2003-07-29 Thread zachary rosen
Doing the mailinglist as Usenet is a very interesting idea. The problem is, obviously, spam. But - being able to quickly browse / hop around all the different mailing lists would be a very useful thing. I don't think we could use NNTP to do it though unless we used it to just mirror the mails.

Re: [hackers] Rebuilding the foundations of NNTP

2003-07-29 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
On Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 12:54:00PM -0500, zachary rosen wrote: The issue was mailing lists vs. web boards; you will note that I *said* that weblogg-y stuff should be syndicated by RSS. Doing the mailinglist as Usenet is a very interesting idea. The problem is, obviously, spam. But - being

Re: [hackers] Rebuilding the foundations of NNTP

2003-07-29 Thread zachary rosen
If the news servers can sync with the mailing lists and the servers could be managed and payed for by in kind donations (unnoficial campaigners) then it sounds wonderful to me. Run with it man - hash it out on the wiki, get some devs, and build the sucker. thats my advice ;) -ZAck On Tue,