[Haifux] Disappointing Linux Day

2006-06-25 Thread boazg
I would like, on behalf of myself and Maya, to express my disappointment in the Linux Day we had yesterday. Adir, while you did take leadership of the project, I feel dissatisfied with the way things worked out. The most basic necessities for an installfest were unavailable. Power bricks were in

Re: [Haifux] Disappointing Linux Day

2006-06-25 Thread Alon Altman
The linux day should not be about installing linux anymore. Installing linux is trivial, and anyone with a basic background in computers can manage this on her own. The problem most people have is with configuration. The #1 problem is connecting to the Internet, a problem unsolved at all in

Re: [Haifux] Disappointing Linux Day

2006-06-25 Thread yakoub abaya
Alon Altman wrote: The linux day should not be about installing linux anymore. Installing linux is trivial, and anyone with a basic background in computers can manage this on her own. The problem most people have is with configuration. The #1 problem is connecting to the Internet, a

Re: [Haifux] Disappointing Linux Day

2006-06-25 Thread Ohad Lutzky
On 6/25/06, Alon Altman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The linux day should not be about installing linux anymore. Installing linux is trivial, and anyone with a basic background in computers can manage this on her own. I do not completely agree here. Installation help is important for the

[Haifux] IBM Tech Briefing on Open Source - June 28 - reminder

2006-06-25 Thread Dunkelman Orr
Dear all, This is a reminder of a Technical Briefing to be held by IBM THIS WEDNESDAY (June 28) in the CS faculty. The subject of this briefing is Open Source Development Tools, and will be given by specialists from the USA.

Re: [Haifux] Disappointing Linux Day

2006-06-25 Thread boazg
just for the record i would like to oppose this drawing of knives whitch is taking place.

Re: [Haifux] Disappointing Linux Day

2006-06-25 Thread Adir Abraham
On Sun, 25 Jun 2006, boazg wrote: I would like, on behalf of myself and Maya, to express my disappointment in the Linux Day we had yesterday. Adir, while you did take leadership of the project, I feel dissatisfied with the way things worked out. I was also dissatisfied from the amount of

Re: [Haifux] Disappointing Linux Day

2006-06-25 Thread Adir Abraham
On Sun, 25 Jun 2006, Alon Altman wrote: The linux day should not be about installing linux anymore. Installing linux is trivial, and anyone with a basic background in computers can manage this on her own. The problem most people have is with configuration. The #1 problem is connecting to the

Re: [Haifux] Disappointing Linux Day

2006-06-25 Thread Adir Abraham
On Sun, 25 Jun 2006, yakoub abaya wrote: so i agree : install party -very stupid , configuration party-great idea No, it is not very stupid when we want one distribution to rely on during an installation party. why should someone be in charge of anything ? it should be a community effort

Re: [Haifux] Disappointing Linux Day

2006-06-25 Thread Ohad Lutzky
On 6/25/06, Adir Abraham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sorry to tell you that I did my own tests, and no distribution's decision is finite. In your case, however, you go with Ubuntu since v1. This is your own blind decision. I'm sorry, but I have to disagree here. How is that decision 'blind'?

Re: [Haifux] Disappointing Linux Day

2006-06-25 Thread boazg
i for one stand behind adir. he worked very hard with a very limited staff, and while it was far from a perfect linux day, with all things considered it could have scarcely been a better one. claiming he should have had more of something is merely whining. were do you get more stuff? It doesn't

Re: [Haifux] Disappointing Linux Day

2006-06-25 Thread Zvi Devir
Ohad Lutzky wrote: However, seeing as you wouldn't accept this option (at least not until installations failed left and right, and/or the first person without the DVD drive came along) Please separate the faulty DVDs (one of the two bunches was faulty) and a faulty installation.

Re: [Haifux] Disappointing Linux Day

2006-06-25 Thread Alon Altman
The scarce staff was not a basic problem out of its own. There were few people willing to help because people where systematically being stepped on and ignored. I do not want to mention names here, because this is not a personal argument. The organization could have been better if more people