Re: [Haifux] No! No! Don't compile your kernel!

2011-01-24 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Sunday 23 Jan 2011 23:06:40 Nadav Har'El wrote: On Sun, Jan 23, 2011, Eli Billauer wrote about [Haifux] No! No! Don't compile your kernel!: Yet another sign that Linux is turning into a don't-touch-me kind of system. How many times did they tell me I don't really want to compile my

Re: [Haifux] No! No! Don't compile your kernel!

2011-01-24 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Mon, Jan 24, 2011, Shlomi Fish wrote about Re: No! No! Don't compile your kernel!: built seemed snappier than the shipped-in Mandriva kernel, and it Freecell Solver executed there at 72.7685720920563s instead of 73.6936609745026s (the I hope that you agree with me that 99.9218485921% of

Re: [Haifux] No! No! Don't compile your kernel!

2011-01-24 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Just a couple of nitpicks, in the hope they will prove useful. On 24/01/11 09:02, Shachar Raindel wrote: dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot At least on debian, -rfakeroot is assumed unless you want something else (sudo, plugfakeroot-ng/plug or whatever). And if I skip the tinker stage, build is

Re: [Haifux] No! No! Don't compile your kernel!

2011-01-24 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Monday 24 Jan 2011 12:55:04 Nadav Har'El wrote: On Mon, Jan 24, 2011, Shlomi Fish wrote about Re: No! No! Don't compile your kernel!: built seemed snappier than the shipped-in Mandriva kernel, and it Freecell Solver executed there at 72.7685720920563s instead of 73.6936609745026s (the

Re: [Haifux] No! No! Don't compile your kernel!

2011-01-24 Thread Eli Billauer
Hi, To put it short: I never was much into the ideals of freedom. My preference of free software always was because I could alter it to meet my own needs. It was easy enough to do for real. And I had this feeling that the system was meant to be hacked. It belonged to me. And that's fading

Re: [Haifux] No! No! Don't compile your kernel!

2011-01-24 Thread Oron Peled
On Monday, 24 בJanuary 2011 22:11:49 Eli Billauer wrote: ... It was easy enough to do for real. And I had this feeling that the system was meant to be hacked. It belonged to me. And that's fading away, most likely because nobody really seems to care about this. Linux is becoming a piece of

Re: [Haifux] No! No! Don't compile your kernel!

2011-01-24 Thread choo
complicated and contains much more packages and much more lines of code. --guy Original message Date:   Mon, 24 Jan 2011 23:12:48 +0200 From:   Oron Peled o...@actcom.co.il Subject:   Re: [Haifux] No! No! Don't compile your kernel! To:   haifux@haifux.org Cc:   Shachar Raindel shach

[Haifux] No! No! Don't compile your kernel!

2011-01-23 Thread Eli Billauer
Yet another sign that Linux is turning into a don't-touch-me kind of system. How many times did they tell me I don't really want to compile my kernel? http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Custom_Kernel -- Web: http://www.billauer.co.il ___ Haifux mailing

Re: [Haifux] No! No! Don't compile your kernel!

2011-01-23 Thread Etzion Bar-Noy
Not because you can't. Because for the enterprise market, where Centos is aimed at, *supportability * is more important than 1.2% additional performance, or a certain new experimental feature. For your own home/development box, do whatever you want. For Enterprise? Hell, no. Ez On Sun, Jan 23,

Re: [Haifux] No! No! Don't compile your kernel!

2011-01-23 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Sun, Jan 23, 2011, Eli Billauer wrote about [Haifux] No! No! Don't compile your kernel!: Yet another sign that Linux is turning into a don't-touch-me kind of system. How many times did they tell me I don't really want to compile my kernel? http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Custom_Kernel

Re: [Haifux] No! No! Don't compile your kernel!

2011-01-23 Thread Eli Billauer
Nadav Har'El wrote: When was the last time you compiled gcc on your own? When was the last time you compiled the X Window System? For me, the answers to both questions is 1995. If you answered similarly (or even, never), why should the kernel be any different - i.e., why do you need to compile

Re: [Haifux] No! No! Don't compile your kernel!

2011-01-23 Thread Shachar Raindel
On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 12:54 AM, Eli Billauer e...@billauer.co.il wrote: In my case, I've had two reasons lately: One was because I wanted new hardware to be supported on an outdated distribution, and the second was because I wanted the kernel to support root on NFS without an initrd. I