Re: [Hardhats-members] GT.M on Max OS-X (intel)?

2006-04-11 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
On 4/11/06, Jason Essington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... > 3) Since GT.M requires an existing set of binaries to compile the > source, sanchez would have to release binaries for OS X before anyone > will be able to build GT.M on OS X. Can you expand on this some more. Is GT.M not fully open sou

Re: [Hardhats-members] GT.M on Max OS-X (intel)?

2006-04-11 Thread Jason Essington
Here are a couple of datapoints that may be of interest to everyone. 1) It was the iCBM (intel chip based mac) firmware upgrade that allowed windows to boot on the mac. 2) BootCamp was basically a set of windows drivers for some of the specialized hardware that apple uses, Plus a handy disk p

Re: [Hardhats-members] GT.M on Max OS-X (intel)?

2006-04-11 Thread Mike Schrom
Sorry, I didn't mean to be critical of the Mac, my (poorly phrased) thought was more along the lines of questioning whether the energy being expended to extend VistA to other platforms might be better utilized to extend the capabilities of VistA on the platforms on which it already runs well.

RE: [Hardhats-members] GT.M on Max OS-X (intel)?

2006-04-11 Thread Jon Parshall
> Nancy is much more diplomatic than I am. > > I can't speak for anyone else, but I find the Macintosh an excellent > development environment. If you prefer some other operating system, > that's fine. I prefer the Macintosh. Others do, too. Who knows? You > might even find that a significant number

Re: [Hardhats-members] GT.M on Max OS-X (intel)?

2006-04-11 Thread Greg Woodhouse
--- Nancy Anthracite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 1. Osirix > 2. Osirix > 3. Lots of developer geeks like Macs, including a number reading and > posting > to this list and very important to the community. Despite the fact I > would > like to convince them to spend their money elsewhere, they p

Re: [Hardhats-members] GT.M on Max OS-X (intel)?

2006-04-11 Thread Greg Woodhouse
--- Mike Schrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm curious why, aside from the fact that the Mac community is very > devoted to the Mac architecture (and has a greater tendency to > proselytize), people seem to want to shoehorn GT.M/VistA into the > Intel > based Mac. Why not use an Intel or AM

Re: [Hardhats-members] GT.M on Max OS-X (intel)?

2006-04-11 Thread Nancy Anthracite
1. Osirix 2. Osirix 3. Lots of developer geeks like Macs, including a number reading and posting to this list and very important to the community. Despite the fact I would like to convince them to spend their money elsewhere, they persist in their devotion to that expensive little half eaten ap

Re: [Hardhats-members] GT.M on Max OS-X (intel)?

2006-04-11 Thread Mike Schrom
I'm curious why, aside from the fact that the Mac community is very devoted to the Mac architecture (and has a greater tendency to proselytize), people seem to want to shoehorn GT.M/VistA into the Intel based Mac. Why not use an Intel or AMD based PC, which would run Linux GT.M/VistA out of the

Re: [Hardhats-members] Zeroconf on Linux?

2006-04-11 Thread Greg Woodhouse
--- "Bhaskar, KS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://avahi.org/ > I really didn't think of the obvious! === Gregory Woodhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "It is foolish to answer a question that you do not understand." --G. Polya ("How to Solve It")

Re: [Hardhats-members] Zeroconf on Linux?

2006-04-11 Thread Greg Woodhouse
FWIW, my understanding is that Rendez-Vous was Apple's original name, but someone else claimed the trademark, so they changed it to Bonjour (not a bad name, actually). Zeroconf is the IETF working group name. The basic technologies (such as link local addressing and multicast DNS) are described in

Re: [Hardhats-members] Zeroconf on Linux?

2006-04-11 Thread Greg Woodhouse
--- "Bhaskar, KS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://avahi.org/ > Thanks for the link. I've been thinking lately about how we could use zeroconf to simplify the installation and operation of VistA systems. Consider, for example, all the installation steps that say something like "Start the RP

[Hardhats-members] Fwd: [JoelOnSoftware] The Development Abstraction Layer

2006-04-11 Thread Greg Woodhouse
An interesting article. Where do we fit in this picture? --- Joel On Software <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: "Joel On Software" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [JoelOnSoftware] The Development Abstraction Layer > Date: 11 Apr 2006 09:53:26 PDT > > A young man comes to

Re: [Hardhats-members] Zeroconf on Linux?

2006-04-11 Thread Joseph Dal Molin
This looks promisingsounds like it is already in Ubuntu Linux http://avahi.org/wiki/WikiStart#Whatisit "Avahi is a system which facilitates service discovery on a local network. This means that you can plug your laptop or computer into a network and instantly be able to view other people w

Re: [Hardhats-members] Zeroconf on Linux?

2006-04-11 Thread Bhaskar, KS
http://avahi.org/ On Tue, 2006-04-11 at 12:26 -0500, Greg Woodhouse wrote: > Does Linux support zero configuration networking (called Bonjour on > the > Macintosh)? Out of the box? I know Apple provides a product called > Bonjour for Windows to enable Zeroconf on Windows. > > === > Gregory Woo

[Hardhats-members] Putting the user in charge

2006-04-11 Thread Greg Woodhouse
Whatever our differences regarding how it is to be done, I think Chris and I share a common goal: putting the user in charge. It may not be the only thing that makes medical information systems different, but one difference is certainly that software capabilities, work flows, user interfaces, etc.,

RE: [Hardhats-members] Fw: Fwd: Msg#6 - Archetypes for mathematicians?

2006-04-11 Thread Tom McClendon
What we're all really after is the "Great Machine" in "Forbidden Planet" (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0049223/), that creates anything one wants just by imagining it. Not there yet. Tom -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Walton Sent: T

[Hardhats-members] Fw: Fwd: Msg#6 - Archetypes for mathematicians?

2006-04-11 Thread Bill Walton
If this bothers you, blame Greg. He's the one who asked ;-) - Original Message - From: "Thomas Beale" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 2006-04-11 11:33 AM Subject: Re: Fwd: Msg#6 - Archetypes for mathematicians? > > This is the response I sent to one list on this topic.

[Hardhats-members] Fw: Fwd: Msg#4 - Software Archetypes - single vs double systems

2006-04-11 Thread Bill Walton
More from the archetype experts. - Original Message - From: "Thomas Beale" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 2006-04-11 12:08 PM Subject: Re: Fwd: Msg#4 - Software Archetypes - single vs double systems > > Some answers that may or may not be useful for the hardhats. > > B

[Hardhats-members] Zeroconf on Linux?

2006-04-11 Thread Greg Woodhouse
Does Linux support zero configuration networking (called Bonjour on the Macintosh)? Out of the box? I know Apple provides a product called Bonjour for Windows to enable Zeroconf on Windows. === Gregory Woodhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "It is foolish to answer a question that you do not understand."

Re: [Hardhats-members] Software Archetypes - single vs double systems

2006-04-11 Thread Gregory Woodhouse
On Apr 11, 2006, at 8:08 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:OK, Greg;    Here is what I mean by optimize.  Optimization is a goal, not a destination.  I'm not sure what this means.It is a series of adaptations and adjustments to improve (and that can be lots of different things, sensitivity, speed, resou

Re: [Hardhats-members] GT.M on Max OS-X (intel)?

2006-04-11 Thread chuck5566
There is no need need to wait or even go to the Apple Developer site.  The tools are on the install disc.  And if you bought an Intel Mini, then the Intel/Universal Binary tools are included.  You can make a wreave bet on it. On Apr 11, 2006, at 8:51 AM, Gregory Woodhouse wrote:On Apr 11, 2006, at

Re: [Hardhats-members] GT.M on Max OS-X (intel)?

2006-04-11 Thread Ken McKee
On Apr 11, 2006, at 9:51 AM, Nancy Anthracite wrote: Yes, it is the non-disclosure agreement. My son advised me against agreeing to it as he said the wording is too subject to interpretation. However, if there is no way around it, then I will have to ignore my lawyer's advice. Our Inte

Re: [Hardhats-members] Software Archetypes - single vs double systems

2006-04-11 Thread rcr
OK, Greg; Here is what I mean by optimize. Optimization is a goal, not a destination. It is a series of adaptations and adjustments to improve (and that can be lots of different things, sensitivity, speed, resources, and the list goes on from there). VistA is and always has been a process, n

Re: [Hardhats-members] GT.M on Max OS-X (intel)?

2006-04-11 Thread Gregory Woodhouse
On Apr 11, 2006, at 6:51 AM, Nancy Anthracite wrote:Yes, it is the non-disclosure agreement.  My son advised me against agreeing  to it as he said the wording is too subject to interpretation.  However, if  there is no way around it, then I will have to ignore my lawyer's advice. Well, you can wait

Re: [Hardhats-members] GT.M on Max OS-X (intel)?

2006-04-11 Thread Nancy Anthracite
Yes, it is the non-disclosure agreement. My son advised me against agreeing to it as he said the wording is too subject to interpretation. However, if there is no way around it, then I will have to ignore my lawyer's advice. On Tuesday 11 April 2006 08:19, Gregory Woodhouse wrote: On Apr 10, 2

[Hardhats-members] Fw: Fwd: Software Archetypes - single vs double systems

2006-04-11 Thread Bill Walton
As requested, a response from one of the experts. hth, Bill - Original Message - From: "b.cohen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Bill Walton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 2006-04-11 6:48 AM Subject: Re: Fwd: Software Archetypes - single vs double systems

Re: [Hardhats-members] Software Archetypes - single vs double systems

2006-04-11 Thread Gregory Woodhouse
On Apr 10, 2006, at 9:46 PM, Chris Richardson wrote: Having a little experience with VistA and CHCS, there is a reason why VistA has stood the test of time. I have seen the VistA process from the contractor side and from the VA side. The VistA experience is very different than most produ

Re: [Hardhats-members] Menus & Roles

2006-04-11 Thread rgaber
I think your best approach would be the documentation, each "package" has itsa own doc set describing the various menus and associated keys. - Original Message - From: "M.S.Vittal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 2:54 am Subject: [Hardhats-members] Menus & Roles To: hard

Re: [Hardhats-members] GT.M on Max OS-X (intel)?

2006-04-11 Thread Gregory Woodhouse
On Apr 10, 2006, at 8:22 AM, Nancy Anthracite wrote:Is there some other way to do this than with the developers tools?   In a word, no. The developer tools are really needed for a variety of reasons, and I think you really want them, anyway. Is it the ADC membership you're concerned about? The non-