Re: [H] OT - Intelligent Design dealt harsh blow by NJ Judge

2005-12-23 Thread Wayne Johnson
At 12:13 AM 12/23/2005, Pat Robertson typed: Because abortion has absolutely nothing to do with fairy tales? Since when do you need to worship cloud men in order to determine if you personally find aborting fetuses to be immoral? I really have disgust for those who assume that only by

Re: [H] Utility to remove lines from a text file

2005-12-23 Thread Thane Sherrington (S)
At 12:00 AM 23/12/2005, Jamie Furtner wrote: Try something like find /v remove_term inputfile.txt outputfile.txt /v says take all lines NOT containing the string FIND /? for all the options. Jamie, you always have all the answers. Everytime I feel good about what I know about the command

Re: [H] OT - Intelligent Design dealt harsh blow by NJ Judge

2005-12-23 Thread Thane Sherrington (S)
At 02:08 AM 23/12/2005, Gary VanderMolen wrote: I applaud you for your pro-life stance. But let's do a reality check. Of those who are anti-abortion, what percent do you suppose are religious? I think it's very high, probably 80% or better. What does that prove? That religious people are

Re: [H] OT - Intelligent Design dealt harsh blow by NJ Judge

2005-12-23 Thread Thane Sherrington (S)
At 02:23 AM 23/12/2005, Gary VanderMolen wrote: 1. You believe in God and he really exists. Outcome: You'll win big. Unless he's a nasty bastard who decides to inflict painful cancer on you and then you die while not in a state of grace and go to hell. You lose big time and you believed for

RE: [H] OT - Intelligent Design dealt harsh blow by NJ Judge

2005-12-23 Thread Thane Sherrington (S)
At 03:13 AM 23/12/2005, Neil Atwood wrote: We are dealing with matters of truth here. Either something is true or it is not. There is discoverable truth about Jesus, because he was a real historical figure, and therefore we can employ the same approach to examining him and his claims as we do

RE: [H] OT - Intelligent Design dealt harsh blow by NJ Judge

2005-12-23 Thread Mark Dodge
What do you mean worshipped the wrong God? There is only one Mark Dodge MD Computers 360-772-2433 And you're forgetting: 5. You believe in god, and live your life by his rules, but when you die, it turns you worshipped the wrong god, and the one you meet kicks you into hell because

RE: [H] OT - Intelligent Design dealt harsh blow by NJ Judge

2005-12-23 Thread Thane Sherrington (S)
At 09:16 AM 23/12/2005, Mark Dodge wrote: What do you mean worshipped the wrong God? There is only one Not according to a heck of a lot of religions. The idea that there is only one god is a new and untested theory. And even if there is only one, if the Jews are right, then the

[H] Which Nvidia 6600GT AGP card?

2005-12-23 Thread Bobby Heid
Have a machine that I want to upgrade the graphics card in. I'm pretty sure that I want a 6600GT AGP for it. What brands is everyone recommending? Thanks, Bobby

Re: [H] OT - Intelligent Design dealt harsh blow by NJ Judge

2005-12-23 Thread Al
[merry|happy] [christmas|hannukah|kwanzaa|winter solstice|new years|humbugging] Here's to the best god we ever made. http://masterhit.dyndns.org/paradise.mp3 Al

RE: [H] WinUpdate?

2005-12-23 Thread dhs
Thanks Chris, The server does not have a firewall. Do not have one that will run on W2KServer. I'll read the link sent and see if there is something else I missed. I did read the faqs link from the error page. It shows a table of WinUpdate supported sw. I noticed that W2KServer was not

RE: [H] Which Nvidia 6600GT AGP card?

2005-12-23 Thread Bobby Heid
Thanks Greg. I know they are all pretty much run off of the reference design. But some are loud, some are of poor quality, etc. That's kind of what I was looking for. I will keep the dual DVI in mind. Right now, I do not have any LCDs. Does dual DVI also output standard VGA? Thanks, Bobby

RE: [H] OT - Intelligent Design dealt harsh blow by NJ Judge

2005-12-23 Thread 007
Here is one for the Evolution crowd: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10574901/from/RS.1/ 007 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Al Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 9:00 AM To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] OT - Intelligent Design dealt harsh

RE: [H] Which Nvidia 6600GT AGP card?

2005-12-23 Thread Chris Reeves
Yep, via a dongle. -- FIGHT BACK AGAINST SPAM! Download Spam Inspector, the Award Winning Anti-Spam Filter http://mail.giantcompany.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware-

Re: Cable Modems was Re: [H] ATA has come a LOOOOOOONG way

2005-12-23 Thread Brian Weeden
Yup, sorry I was looking at both and linked the 5120 instead of the 900. It was the 900 I was ranting about. On 12/23/05, warpmedia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is the modem I have and there is no router or wireless built in. Best bet is it + a Linksys wrt54Gs V3 or less w/ either Sveasoft

Re: [H] OT - Intelligent Design dealt harsh blow by NJ Judge

2005-12-23 Thread chuck
- Original Message - From: Gary VanderMolen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'The Hardware List' hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 1:23 AM Subject: Re: [H] OT - Intelligent Design dealt harsh blow by NJ Judge 1. You believe in God and he really exists. Outcome: You'll

Re: [H] OT - Intelligent Design dealt harsh blow by NJ Judge

2005-12-23 Thread chuck
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 9:48 AM Subject: Re: [H] OT - Intelligent Design dealt harsh blow by NJ Judge Satan's angels out of commission. Then he looks deep into the heart of each

Re: [H] OT - Intelligent Design dealt harsh blow by NJ Judge

2005-12-23 Thread Pat Robertson
From: Wayne Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] OT - Intelligent Design dealt harsh blow by NJ Judge Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 06:00:48 -0500 Even the most learned psychologists

RE: [H] OT - Intelligent Design dealt harsh blow by NJ Judge

2005-12-23 Thread Pat Robertson
From: Thane Sherrington (S) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: RE: [H] OT - Intelligent Design dealt harsh blow by NJ Judge Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 07:31:05 -0400 At 03:13 AM

RE: [H] OT - Intelligent Design dealt harsh blow by NJ Judge

2005-12-23 Thread Pat Robertson
From: Mark Dodge [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com To: 'The Hardware List' hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: RE: [H] OT - Intelligent Design dealt harsh blow by NJ Judge Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 05:16:21 -0800 What do you mean worshipped the wrong

RE: [H] OT - Intelligent Design dealt harsh blow by NJ Judge

2005-12-23 Thread Pat Robertson
From: Thane Sherrington (S) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: RE: [H] OT - Intelligent Design dealt harsh blow by NJ Judge Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 12:00:24 -0400 While it's true that very few

Re: [H] (OT) DVD: Serenity

2005-12-23 Thread warpmedia
They could have added more combat scenes for Summer Glau, man that girl can move! Also I was shocked when it was revealed where reavers came from. The western/scifi may have been why it flew under my radar on TV originally but was pleasantly surprised after viewing all the eps. Still might

[H] Commodore back in the game?

2005-12-23 Thread warpmedia
Commodore back in the Game? http://digg.com/technology/Commodore_back_in_the_Game_

Re: [H] (OT) DVD: Serenity

2005-12-23 Thread Stan Zaske
Thanks for the tip, I've been waiting for this one and look forward to seeing it. @:D Chris Reeves wrote: For those that have already picked up Serenity (and if you haven't, you should at least give it a rental, one of the better Sci-Fi flicks in a while) here's something cute worth noticing:

Re: [H] OT - Intelligent Design dealt harsh blow by NJ Judge

2005-12-23 Thread Gary VanderMolen
If you ask ten people who don't go to church if they consider themselves religious and/or believe in god, I'll bet most would say yes. But if that is actually true, why are they so anti-religious in their daily actions? I'm guessing most people either feel they MUST say they are religious,

Re: [H] OT - Intelligent Design dealt harsh blow by NJ Judge

2005-12-23 Thread Gary VanderMolen
6. You believe in god just to cover your ass (they way most people do.) He exists, you die, and he says Sorry, CYA actions aren't covered. You go to hell. I agree with that scenario. Outward appearance doesn't count. By their fruits ye shall know them. I brought up Pascal's Wager not

Re: [H] OT - Intelligent Design dealt harsh blow by NJ Judge

2005-12-23 Thread Sam Franc
Gary VanderMolen wrote: If you ask ten people who don't go to church if they consider themselves religious and/or believe in god, I'll bet most would say yes. But if that is actually true, why are they so anti-religious in their daily actions? I'm guessing most people either feel they MUST

Re: [H] (OT) DVD: Serenity

2005-12-23 Thread Julian Hale
At 09:07 AM 12/23/2005, you wrote: They could have added more combat scenes for Summer Glau, man that girl can move! Also I was shocked when it was revealed where reavers came from. The western/scifi may have been why it flew under my radar on TV originally but was pleasantly surprised after

Re: [H] OT - Intelligent Design dealt harsh blow by NJ Judge

2005-12-23 Thread Gary VanderMolen
I'd like to think that if God is real he made the Universe into a giant petri dish just to see what would result and I seriously doubt he gives a Rat's ass about you and me personally. On the level of species he might find the Human Race mildly interesting. @:D Looking at the universe, it's

Re: [H] OT - Intelligent Design dealt harsh blow by NJ Judge

2005-12-23 Thread Gary VanderMolen
Ok, I find this direction interesting. Is there any proof of the existance of Jesus other than the Bible? There was at least one contemporary historian, Flavius Josephus, who mentioned Jesus. There were thousands of eye witnesses whose lives were changed and who went out and told those

Re: [H] OT - Intelligent Design dealt harsh blow by NJ Judge

2005-12-23 Thread Gary VanderMolen
I don't know why scientists think it helps to prove evolution because there is only a 4 percent difference between human and chimpanzee DNA. It's called economy of design. Why reinvent the wheel each time? There's only a one atom difference between harmless carbon dioxide and deadly carbon

[H] Christmas

2005-12-23 Thread jeff.lane
Merry Christmas.ho, ho, ho Jeff, Johanna, and little Sophie(the mutt)

RE: [H] OT - Intelligent Design dealt harsh blow by NJ Judge

2005-12-23 Thread Neil Atwood
Ok, I find this direction interesting. Is there any proof of the existence of Jesus other than the Bible? Heaven's yes. Gary has mentioned Josephus (Jewish, and opposed to Jesus' claims), but there are numerous other historical contemporaries who referred to and wrote about Jesus - eg: the

RE: [H] OT - Intelligent Design dealt harsh blow by NJ Judge

2005-12-23 Thread Jim Edwards
Look, this thread needs to die asap.

Re: [H] God is tending to other stuff like religous wars

2005-12-23 Thread Jim Edwards
I feel that if this is something you and others want to set up and maintain, go for it. At 12/22/2005 06:59 AM, Stan Zaske wrote: Hey Jim, how do you feel about a Hardware Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] team? @:D Jim Edwards wrote: that we have going on now. The list should tend to stuff like

Re: [H] OT - Intelligent Design dealt harsh blow by NJ Judge

2005-12-23 Thread Greg Sevart
At 12:50 PM 12/23/2005, you wrote: Look, this thread needs to die asap. Thank you! Ditto. Can we just ban those that do not heed? :) Marked -OT- or not, this one had no place on this list. Shame on everyone.

[H] MSI problems with Promise Ultra TX2 133

2005-12-23 Thread Winterlight
I have a new build on a new MSI K8N Neo-V Socket 754 NVIDIA nForce3 250. I have flashed it to the latest BIOS. It runs fine until I put in a Promise TX2 Ultra 133 with drives.. This PCI Promise TX2, with it's drives, was working fine in the previous board, I pulled it out, put it in the MSI

Re: [H] MSI problems with Promise Ultra TX2 133

2005-12-23 Thread Greg Sevart
You're missing voodoo magic. Seriously. I've used Promise TX2 cards in several computers...they are just straight up flaky to begin with. Usually I can find a drive configuration that will appease it, but recently I've just started putting my drives on other (GbitE) computers. Greg -

Re: [H] OT - Intelligent Design dealt harsh blow by NJ Judge

2005-12-23 Thread Gary VanderMolen
Marked -OT- or not, this one had no place on this list. Shame on everyone. Apparently you're not familiar with the traditions of this list. Most OT threads are allowed to run three days, after which the moderator calls a halt. In the mean time, you can configure your email client to ignore the

Re: [H] MSI problems with Promise Ultra TX2 133

2005-12-23 Thread Winterlight
At 03:49 PM 12/23/2005, you wrote: You're missing voodoo magic. Seriously. I've used Promise TX2 cards in several computers...they are just straight up flaky to begin with. That's odd, I have used them for years and this is the first time I have ever had a problem. Usually I can

RE: [H] MSI problems with Promise Ultra TX2 133

2005-12-23 Thread Chris Reeves
Any chance you have a drive on that card with a primary, active partition, and a drive in your new PC with a primary, active partition? -- FIGHT BACK AGAINST SPAM! Download Spam Inspector, the Award Winning

Re: [H] MSI problems with Promise Ultra TX2 133

2005-12-23 Thread Greg Sevart
I should clarify--I've found they are flaky on anything other than Intel chipsets. - Original Message - From: Winterlight [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 6:03 PM Subject: Re: [H] MSI problems with Promise Ultra TX2 133

Re: RE: [H] MSI problems with Promise Ultra TX2 133

2005-12-23 Thread winterlight
Any chance you have a drive on that card with a primary, active partition, and a drive in your new PC with a primary, active partition? no, only one active, and everything else is being setup as it was before... in a stable working setup. But I have checked everything a couple of times, and

Re: Re: [H] MSI problems with Promise Ultra TX2 133

2005-12-23 Thread winterlight
I should clarify--I've found they are flaky on anything other than Intel chipsets. Well, it was running just fine on a VIA chipset in a Tyan Tiger dual P3, but it probably does have something to do with the chipset. The whole purpose of the machine is to run a lot of PATA drives. It will

Re: [H] MSI problems with Promise Ultra TX2 133

2005-12-23 Thread dhs
I have the same Promise Ultra133TX2 controller, but do not use it in as extensive a system. However, you may wish to visit the Promise site and get the latest drivers for it (b43, I believe). There may even be a new bios for the card depending on how old you card is. Mine dates to 1999. Best,

RE: [H] MSI problems with Promise Ultra TX2 133

2005-12-23 Thread Chris Reeves
About what I was going to check, see if there is a newer BIOS for the Promise. Also, any chance your MSI motherboard is overclocked, even a little? Promise is really finicky about the bus must be 33Mhz. --

RE: [H] OT - Intelligent Design dealt harsh blow by NJ Judge

2005-12-23 Thread Analyst
On 23 Dec 2005 at 18:13, Neil Atwood wrote: One thing is very, very clear: Jesus claimed to be the incarnate Son of God, and any other conclusion as to his nature and role was unacceptable to him. So, if you want a discussion about that, we have to start there and use the best source material

Re: RE: [H] MSI problems with Promise Ultra TX2 133

2005-12-23 Thread winterlight
About what I was going to check, see if there is a newer BIOS for the Promise. good idea but not in three years Also, any chance your MSI motherboard is overclocked, even a little? Promise is really finicky about the bus must be 33Mhz. I am not familier with this board but I thought I

RE: [H] OT - Intelligent Design dealt harsh blow by NJ Judge

2005-12-23 Thread Jim Edwards
This thread needs to end.

Re: [H] OT - Intelligent Design dealt harsh blow by NJ Judge

2005-12-23 Thread Pat Robertson
From: Sam Franc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] OT - Intelligent Design dealt harsh blow by NJ Judge Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 10:26:00 -0800 A great example is President Bush. We would not be

Re: [H] OT - Intelligent Design dealt harsh blow by NJ Judge

2005-12-23 Thread Stan Zaske
This is exactly right! We are all hypocrites saying what our peers expect of us so that we may belong to the tribe. Sad to say but true! @:( Sam Franc wrote: Gary VanderMolen wrote: If you ask ten people who don't go to church if they consider themselves religious and/or believe in god,

Re: [H] OT - Intelligent Design dealt harsh blow by NJ Judge

2005-12-23 Thread Stan Zaske
Earth is like a precious jewel on a sheet of black velvet! No matter how many other life-bearing planets there are in the Universe there is certainly no other exactly like it. That makes us rather precious as well. Too bad we can't see the forest for the trees. @:| Gary VanderMolen wrote:

Re: [H] OT - Intelligent Design dealt harsh blow by NJ Judge

2005-12-23 Thread Stan Zaske
Don't you think you just invalidated your argument by pointing out the fact that Humans and Chimps are almost the same? In fact, Humans and Chimps are genetically closer than Chimps and Gorillas or Gorillas and Orangutans. How can we call ourselves divine when we clearly are animals ourselves?

Re: [H] OT - Intelligent Design dealt harsh blow by NJ Judge

2005-12-23 Thread Stan Zaske
Well, Merry Christmas to you too! Why don't you ban yourself if you can't handle the fact that others may not share your viewpoint on everything. How very Republican and Conservative Christian of you to exclude those who don't bow down to you and fall into line like good little troopers!

Re: [H] OT - Intelligent Design dealt harsh blow by NJ Judge

2005-12-23 Thread Stan Zaske
I'd say it's been 3 days myself. Merry Christmas to all! @:D Wayne Johnson wrote: At 04:37 PM 12/23/2005, Greg Sevart typed: Marked -OT- or not, this one had no place on this list. Shame on everyone. Why this OT thread is any different than the other OT threads is beyond me but I suspect

Re: [H] MSI problems with Promise Ultra TX2 133

2005-12-23 Thread Stan Zaske
Go to the Promise web site and download the last TX2 Ultra 133 BIOS and driver for your card and that may be all there is to it. I recently did the same for my TX2 Ultra 100 and saw a definite improvement in performance. @:D Winterlight wrote: I have a new build on a new MSI K8N Neo-V

Re: [H] -LO- Firefox stability issues?

2005-12-23 Thread Julian Hale
At 11:08 PM 12/22/2005, you wrote: I stand somewhat corrected in that after coming in from work tonight and having Firefox running all day it is now using 56,624k. So it does eat memory albeit an insignificant amount in my case. Are you sure you guys are using the latest version? @:D I'm