Re: [H] Should I rebuild my machine now or wait until the next gen of CPUs?

2018-07-06 Thread Winterlight
I was planning on getting a Synology NASshould I be concerned about security? I assumed that they would have this problem locked down on their new hardware...but I am not sure. At 07:01 PM 7/6/2018, you wrote: Thus far, AMD's story has been more compelling than Intel's. AMD is immune

Re: [H] Should I rebuild my machine now or wait until the next gen ofCPUs?

2018-07-06 Thread Greg Sevart
The CTS Labs vulnerabilities were poorly disclosed and over-hyped, but there *were* legitimate issues. Reasonable people can disagree about the criticality, but they were not fake. Plus, ASSmedia sucks, and it would not unreasonable to question AMD's decision making if they were to use them to

Re: [H] Should I rebuild my machine now or wait until the next gen ofCPUs?

2018-07-06 Thread James Boswell
*puzzled expression* Are you referring to the CTS Labs hatchet job? Or has there actually been a legit security issue with the chipsets? -JB From: Brian Weeden Sent: 07 July 2018 02:04 To: hardware Subject: Re: [H] Should I rebuild my machine now or wait until the next gen ofCPUs? Agree with

Re: [H] Should I rebuild my machine now or wait until the next gen of CPUs?

2018-07-06 Thread Brian Weeden
Agree with all of that, although as I mentioned earlier AMD's utter failure in screening their motherboard chipset vendor also gives me pause. Hard to tell if that's a one-off mistake, or a sign that they don't really care that much about security. - Brian On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 9:01

Re: [H] Should I rebuild my machine now or wait until the next gen of CPUs?

2018-07-06 Thread Greg Sevart
Thus far, AMD's story has been more compelling than Intel's. AMD is immune to meltdown, and is broadly speaking less vulnerable to the Sceptre variants. However, it would be naïve to believe that AMD is in the clear, as additional vulnerabilities are slowly coming out in this new and novel

Re: [H] Should I rebuild my machine now or wait until the next gen of CPUs?

2018-07-06 Thread Greg Sevart
For meltdown, my feeling is that the risk is real. Code running in unprivileged user space can pull memory contents from anything, including the kernel. That's bad. It's not unauthenticated RCE bad, but it could make other RCE vulnerabilities worse. Spectre is a bit tougher. The CVSS (v3) is

[H] wifi issues

2018-07-06 Thread Winterlight
I use a Ubiquiti Airmax Pro for wifi. I have devices that refuse to connect to it. Newer AC devices connect and operate great but older N devices either don't even see it or connect to it poorly. I have updated drivers fully patched OS confirmed and re configured network settings countless

Re: [H] Should I rebuild my machine now or wait until the next gen of CPUs?

2018-07-06 Thread Winterlight
I can see getting a new laptop from Dell or the like, but a home made workstation? I wouldn't do it unless I was forced to. I would wait until all this is resolved. At 02:42 PM 7/6/2018, you wrote: Winter, that is exactly the situation I'm in and the question I'm asking. I have not

Re: [H] Should I rebuild my machine now or wait until the next gen of CPUs?

2018-07-06 Thread Brian Weeden
Winter, that is exactly the situation I'm in and the question I'm asking. I have not applied any patches to my system because a) they're only partially effective and b) they have a performance hit. So I'm trying to see if it makes sense to upgrade to a new machine now, or whether I should stick

Re: [H] Should I rebuild my machine now or wait until the next gen of CPUs?

2018-07-06 Thread Winterlight
This has been an interesting thread. So Greg the Ivy Bridge patch that you posted will be delivered by Windows 10 ...eventually... maybe? I am still running a P9X79 WS with my six core Ivy Bridge with Win10. InSpectre tells me Spectre is not protected and performance is slower. Just how much

Re: [H] Should I rebuild my machine now or wait until the next gen of CPUs?

2018-07-06 Thread Greg Sevart
The chipset vulnerabilities were ugly, yes, but for their part AMD did ensure they were resolved quickly despite the research firm not following industry best-practices regarding vulnerability disclosure. My bigger beef is that AMD would use ASSmedia (not a typo) at all, given their fairly

Re: [H] Should I rebuild my machine now or wait until the next gen of CPUs?

2018-07-06 Thread Brian Weeden
Thanks, Greg. That pretty much aligns with my thought process on this, so I guess it's good at least one other person is coming to the same conclusions I am :) Didn't know about the Ivy Bridge patches - will look into that more. But one of the reasons I haven't patched at all is that all the

Re: [H] Should I rebuild my machine now or wait until the next gen of CPUs?

2018-07-06 Thread Greg Sevart
Actually, your Ivy Bridge CPU had new microcode revision with additional Spectre defenses released just this past Monday. While it's a long-shot for your motherboard manufacturer to release a new FW update, it *is* likely to appear in an OS patch. CPU microcode can and is loaded via multiple