Re: [H] Upgrade time: What Mobo/CPU

2009-12-03 Thread Brian Weeden
I am still damn happy with my Q6600 I bought over a year ago and overlcocked to 3GHz. But I'm guessing you are looking for something newer. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundation +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 6

Re: [H] Upgrade time: What Mobo/CPU

2009-12-03 Thread DSinc
Anthony, Since I have updated 3 machines to Intel C2D procs, I am very happy. Do not believe you need to go all the way to Itanium 7 devices. Seems several here have had very good results with Itanium 5 devices/builds. I plan to stay with C2D until someone can convince me otherwise. :) C2D j

Re: [H] Upgrade time: What Mobo/CPU

2009-12-03 Thread Stan Zaske
There are many hardware reviews on Intel boards on the web covering Gigabyte mobo's. I swear by Giabyte and have 3 boxes running their boards. Good luck! Anthony Q. Martin wrote: Folks, I need to upgrade my work computer to something more modern (which runs Win7 fine). What I'm like to do

[H] Upgrade time: What Mobo/CPU

2009-12-03 Thread Anthony Q. Martin
Folks, I need to upgrade my work computer to something more modern (which runs Win7 fine). What I'm like to do is move the mobo from my home machine to my office machine, so the new mobo would come to my home machine. This current machine has a Gigabit mobo and runs a dual core CPU 3.0 GHz

Re: [H] Upgrade Time

2008-10-17 Thread maccrawj
Then IMO you are doing your customers a disservice in the current market selling them AMD solutions. Joe User wrote: Hello FORC5, Thursday, October 16, 2008, 10:04:21 PM, you wrote: u guys making me feel deprived, main box and server still AMD. Still building AMD systems for customers. Hope

Re: [H] Upgrade Time

2008-10-17 Thread Joe User
Hello FORC5, Thursday, October 16, 2008, 10:04:21 PM, you wrote: > u guys making me feel deprived, main box and server still AMD. > Still building AMD systems for customers. Hope I am not the only one > supporting the supposed underdog :-) No way man, I vend AMD also... I'd say 95% of my systems

Re: [H] Upgrade Time

2008-10-16 Thread FORC5
nd nothing as effective >as a 780g mb + chip for a cheap mediacenter. Not even close actually on the >intel side. But its still a niche market. >Sent via BlackBerry > >-Original Message- >From: maccrawj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 19:

Re: [H] Upgrade Time

2008-10-16 Thread tmservo
]> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 19:37:21 To: Subject: Re: [H] Upgrade Time Worried about AMD going bankrupt? OK, I missed that point & was assuming you meant if no one buys AMD despite lack luster products that we'd loose them! AMD would not be in trouble if they weren't terrible m

Re: [H] Upgrade Time

2008-10-16 Thread maccrawj
Worried about AMD going bankrupt? OK, I missed that point & was assuming you meant if no one buys AMD despite lack luster products that we'd loose them! AMD would not be in trouble if they weren't terrible managing business, and if they had a product worth buying besides ATI products (who they

Re: [H] Upgrade Time

2008-10-15 Thread FORC5
MS will fix it with the next OS. More Hp and Memory needed. >:-} The other day had the op to work on a OLD 286 running a Dos data base proggy with only 256k memory. More around then one would think. Amazingly FAST FWIW fp At 09:36 PM 10/13/2008, Stan Zaske Poked the stick with: >I agree that w

Re: [H] Upgrade Time

2008-10-14 Thread Stan Zaske
Of course this is all very preliminary and we won't get the real goods until the NDA expires next month but check this out. http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=zh-CN&tl=en&u=http://diy.pconline.com.cn/cpu/reviews/0810/1438115.html Greg Sevart wrote: I agree that we are in the era of

Re: [H] Upgrade Time

2008-10-14 Thread Stan Zaske
You lost me at it not being an issue of a one vendor market. If AMD goes bankrupt it will be a one vendor market. maccrawj wrote: It's not an issue of a one vendor market. When AMD comes up with something good enough you can be sure the market will swing yet again to AMD's camp. What makes

Re: [H] Upgrade Time

2008-10-14 Thread Greg Sevart
> > I agree that we are in the era of "good enough" computing and it > doesn't > matter how superior Core i7 is because the bottle necks are in other > parts of the system and that means primarily the hard drive. I'm Eh, that's a pretty tired argument. While it's true that disk performance has no

Re: [H] Upgrade Time

2008-10-14 Thread maccrawj
It's not an issue of a one vendor market. When AMD comes up with something good enough you can be sure the market will swing yet again to AMD's camp. What makes me laugh are all the complete "power gamer" PC's in EGM that only come in AMD flavors during a Intel market. Well, that and the price

Re: [H] Upgrade Time

2008-10-13 Thread Stan Zaske
ent: Monday, October 13, 2008 1:58 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Upgrade Time Whatever, it's too little to late from AMD, I looked to build an AMD in March & quickly decided Intel was a better bet, still is. It's an Intel market right now both for CPU & chipsets. Gre

Re: [H] Upgrade Time

2008-10-13 Thread Greg Sevart
gt; [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of maccrawj > Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 1:58 PM > To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com > Subject: Re: [H] Upgrade Time > > Whatever, it's too little to late from AMD, I looked to build an AMD in > March & > quickly decided Intel was a better

Re: [H] Upgrade Time

2008-10-13 Thread maccrawj
-called enthusiast community. "omg I can't o/c to 47GHz!! MUST BE TLB!!!" -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Boswell Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 8:19 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Upgrad

Re: [H] Upgrade Time

2008-10-13 Thread Greg Sevart
nday, October 13, 2008 8:19 AM > To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com > Subject: Re: [H] Upgrade Time > > > On 13 Oct 2008, at 13:09, Steve Tomporowski wrote: > > > I started reading some of the reviews and when there's some problem > > that comes and goes randomly,

Re: [H] Upgrade Time

2008-10-13 Thread James Boswell
On 13 Oct 2008, at 13:09, Steve Tomporowski wrote: I started reading some of the reviews and when there's some problem that comes and goes randomly, I think not;-) the L3 cache errata isn't an issue now, the 9x50 badged parts no longer have that problem. -JB

Re: [H] Upgrade Time

2008-10-13 Thread Steve Tomporowski
Great Stuff, Raul, pretty much definitive. On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 8:57 AM, Raul Limos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dual Core CPU review: > http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/dualcore-shootout.html > > Quad core: > Core 2 Quad Q9300 vs Q6600: > http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/displa

Re: [H] Upgrade Time

2008-10-13 Thread Steve Tomporowski
I started reading some of the reviews and when there's some problem that comes and goes randomly, I think not;-) On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 6:50 AM, maccrawj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ROFLMAO over here! > > Phenom? No review I've read says anything positive about the Phenom. > > Cheaper is rar

Re: [H] Upgrade Time

2008-10-11 Thread Raul Limos
Dual Core CPU review: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/dualcore-shootout.html Quad core: Core 2 Quad Q9300 vs Q6600: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core2quad-q9300.html

Re: [H] Upgrade Time

2008-10-10 Thread maccrawj
ROFLMAO over here! Phenom? No review I've read says anything positive about the Phenom. Cheaper is rarely better. Naushad, Zulfiqar wrote: AMD's are still great! Get a board with a 790 series North Bridge and a SB750 South Bridge and you are good to go. The Phenom X3's are tremendous value

Re: [H] Upgrade Time

2008-10-10 Thread maccrawj
1. 2 more cores, they get used fine from what I've seen. 2. with X48, I wouldn't look twice at NV chipsets. 3. ATI, no one will convince me NV cards offer more than ATI. YM/OHO MV ;) Steve Tomporowski wrote: Thanks guys for a couple of configurations to look at. My previous upgrade to a differ

Re: [H] Upgrade Time

2008-10-09 Thread Raul Limos
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 8:05 PM, Steve Tomporowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is there any good place to look for benchmarks? Trying to find > something on anandtech is like pulling teeth If you're contemplating the Phenon X3s, better check out this article first: http://techreport.com/art

Re: [H] Upgrade Time

2008-10-09 Thread Steve Tomporowski
Is there any good place to look for benchmarks? Trying to find something on anandtech is like pulling teeth On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 7:32 PM, Brian Weeden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Depends what the bottleneck is. If it's something that's using a lot of CPU > cycles and is multithreaded (mea

Re: [H] Upgrade Time

2008-10-09 Thread Brian Weeden
Not sure. I haven't gone looking for bench marks on CPUs/mobos in a few years. --- Brian Weeden Technical Consultant Secure World Foundation +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 8:05 AM, Steve Tomporow

Re: [H] Upgrade Time

2008-10-08 Thread Brian Weeden
Depends what the bottleneck is. If it's something that's using a lot of CPU cycles and is multithreaded (meaning the software is written to it can take advantage of multiple cores) then it should be great. But if you're doing something like video editing and working with massive file sizes then y

Re: [H] Upgrade Time

2008-10-08 Thread Steve Tomporowski
That's actually a good reason for going quad is to be able to get a lot running at the same time and still be snappy. Which brings to mind what a quad core would do for my music production. Generally you get limited in the number of software synths running. If you were running a VST host like Cu

Re: [H] Upgrade Time

2008-10-08 Thread Brian Weeden
You're right, for the most part nothing common really uses quad cores. Supreme Commander is the only game I've played recently that does that I can think of. I went with quad because at the time it was essentially the same price as the dual core and I multitask a lot with some heavy duty programs.

Re: [H] Upgrade Time

2008-10-08 Thread Naushad, Zulfiqar
ECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Tomporowski Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 5:25 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Upgrade Time Thanks guys for a couple of configurations to look at. My previous upgrade to a different computer I went with a 6850 over the

Re: [H] Upgrade Time

2008-10-08 Thread Steve Tomporowski
Thanks guys for a couple of configurations to look at. My previous upgrade to a different computer I went with a 6850 over the Q6600, mainly because not much runs on Quad. With normal gaming (UT3) what would I expect from Quad? Anything? Also, are Nvidia chipsets that bad now? I know the proce

Re: [H] Upgrade Time

2008-10-06 Thread Brian Weeden
I upgraded a couple months ago to a Q6600 and an Abit IX38 Quad GT mobo and I'm very happy. I had the whole struggle between quad and dual core and opted for the quad. The motheboard is one of the most stable ones I have ever had. Unlike the two 780G mobos I've had in my HTPC, both of which have

Re: [H] Upgrade Time

2008-10-05 Thread James Boswell
E8500 Asus P5Q mainboard 4GB of DDR2-800 That should just about cover it. On 5 Oct 2008, at 14:21, Steve Tomporowski wrote: I am looking to upgrade the processor/motherboard on my 'oldest' system. It's a Neo 4 Platinum with an Athlon X2 3800+. I'm not looking for the bleeding edge, but for s

[H] Upgrade Time

2008-10-05 Thread Steve Tomporowski
I am looking to upgrade the processor/motherboard on my 'oldest' system. It's a Neo 4 Platinum with an Athlon X2 3800+. I'm not looking for the bleeding edge, but for something that'll give me a substantial increase in speed for games. I've got an Nvidia 280 right now, so that's set. What's hot