Re: Fast charging and the resistor trick

2009-03-06 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Hi, | | I have a microcontroller based USB device and want to connect it to the | Freerunner (in host mode). Now I need some clarifications on the resistor | trick: | | The two 15k Ohm resistors are

Re: Bluetooth headset routed over USB on Freerunner: why we need it and what problems i faced

2009-02-23 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Paul Fertser wrote: | Following information is based on AN107 [1] (CSR, 2002, describes SCO | configuration for BC-01b and BC-02-External) and experience. | | Please let me reveal myself as the total BT

Re: GTA03 and E-Ink Interface

2009-02-19 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 4:37 AM, Andy Green a...@openmoko.com wrote: | -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- | Hash: SHA1 | | Somebody in the thread at some point said: | | | Hmm, I didn't expect that GTA03

Re: GTA03 and E-Ink Interface

2009-02-19 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | | aware. Further, in this approach we at least double the framebuffer | | memory consumption (likely more than double depending on what happens | | with timing). So 800x600x3bytesx2 = 4MB just for

Re: GTA03 and E-Ink Interface

2009-02-19 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 12:45 AM, Andy Green a...@openmoko.com wrote: | Blue4= write | Blue5= chipselect == | | I believe we already ate that for the main course, RGB664=16-bits

Re: GTA03 and E-Ink Interface

2009-02-18 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Hmm, I didn't expect that GTA03 would still require fb-encoded gpio | (for lack of a better term). I had thought that S3C6410 would allow | remapping of VD pins to GPIO. I don't have the actual S3C6410 |

Re: GTA03 and E-Ink Interface

2009-02-17 Thread Andy Green
with zero power. | On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 1:12 AM, Andy Green a...@openmoko.com wrote: | Glamo only issues 18 bits of pixel data, it's all there is from it. But | often it's possible to leave one or more of the control signals at a | static level during the transfer. | | Ok, I see now. I see

Re: GSM-SDcard interference?

2009-02-16 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | To try and see if the interference is still happening with kernel version | 2.6.28, I got the old Kingston card back out of the drawer and tried to | reproduce the problem before updating. Starting

Re: GTA03 and E-Ink Interface

2009-02-14 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | You need those 22 gpio *in addition* to the LCM data lines from glamo to lcm? | | Ah, I think I see what you mean. I could convert the LCD data lines, | VD0..23 into gpio and then I would have enough pins.

Re: GTA03 and E-Ink Interface

2009-02-14 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | so what I am looking for is 22 pins that I can treat in that way, ie: | use as regular GPIO, and are in some way exposed on a connector or a | surface trace that can then be wired to an interface board

Re: Power leakage: save 40mW by turning GSM on

2009-02-03 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Hi Werner, | | I just wanted to congratulate you on your work. As we both know, those | detailed current measurements should have been done years ago. Good to | see they finally get done. I do not think

Re: cpu usage way too high (?)

2009-02-01 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Again, thank you very much. Didn't know that, probably didn't understand it | while reading. Good to know what's the matter of this, and even better that | GTA03 solves it. :) It's true, but actually

Re: Question about charging

2009-01-28 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | I plan on making a generator for my bicycle. It will power some LEDS, | but if I can make enough current, I could charge the phone as well. | | According to documentation, the freerunner wants 100mA, 500mA

Re: Question about charging

2009-01-28 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | The PMU may be able to keep up with this, but I'm not sure the | battery will like it. If you google for short charge cycles, you | find claims that this kills Li-Ion batteries. Actually that's another

Re: Weird hardware mod ???

2009-01-26 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 11:47:06AM +, Andy Green wrote: | What I would do though is swap the order you're doing things around. | Start with a webcam mated to a mini USB plug and see how you go

Re: Weird hardware mod ???

2009-01-25 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 05:39:09AM +, Andy Green wrote: | You'd need to meddle with the mylar flex PCB that holds the BT device | where it terminates to the PCB, that won't be simple

Re: Bug #1024 related power measurement of the GSM modem

2008-11-28 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Setup: The GSM modem is registered to a network but otherwise idle. The | GTA02 is connected to a PC via USB, the battery is removed and instead | power is supplied by an external power supply. There is a

Re: [sound]: capacitor that act like a high-pass filter and so removes the bass on the headphones jack

2008-11-28 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | I think I understand. I built one 10 F capacitor into the adapter (at the | mass), so the problem with the headphones should be fixed. I also measured a | 1,59V current at the capacitor when plugged in and

Re: GTA03 LED controller: LP5521

2008-11-18 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Some people have suggested that the translator is so simple that one | should even put it into the kernel ... There's a choice about using the userland i2c stuff to access the storage for the program or

Re: GTA04 SoC/CPU and LCD size

2008-10-12 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 andrzej zaborowski wrote: BTW It's great that Openmoko puts this much effort in having a mainline acceptable SDK but it's very hard to catch up with the years of support by community and vendors on OMAP meaning that every little quirk of the

Re: GTA04 SoC/CPU and LCD size

2008-10-07 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 thomasg wrote: On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 10:51 PM, Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steady on, that OMAP device is marginally slower vs s3c6410 CPU, 600 vs 633MHz. And it's hard to say that Samsung doesn't care

Re: GTA04 SoC/CPU and LCD size

2008-10-07 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 No -- I mean that GTA02 has risc coprocessors too like the OMAP discussed here, they are not automatically any benefit unless they are actually deployed to do something was the point. I don't think it's any secret we likely won't be using the

Re: GSM-noise buzz issue / ways forward

2008-09-22 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Completely agree, but MICBIAS gets something different from HF during | the buzz behaviour, it gets small depressions (like 100mV IIRC) in it at | ~200Hz period. Basically it is exactly like the PSRR

Re: GSM-noise buzz issue / ways forward

2008-09-22 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Is there any way to switch the audio path to some file output? | i.e. can I (potentially) record buzz without an active GSM connection | ( while irradiating the phone from an external HF source ) | would be

Re: GSM-noise buzz issue

2008-09-17 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Actually Andy explained the pin3/pin5 issue. | From what I understand, with removed receptacle and 3-5 short, your buzz | actually vanished, no? That's good news. | | For the suggested rework, that's

Re: GSM-noise buzz issue

2008-09-17 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Our incomplete understanding does not lead to a solution for headset mic | buzz nor any security about future designs. | You're sure about that? Yeah, waving hands about RF in cans is not understanding:

Re: USB-OVP

2008-08-29 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Andy Green wrote: | What I like though is the Be conservative in what you do part of it. | Because we have not seen failures in the field from GTA02 arrangements, | I am having a hard time accepting we need

Re: Empty battery, unbootable Neo

2008-08-29 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Now I know that I must've hit bug #1158, but my problems don't stop | here. With the battery empty, the Neo won't boot, so much is clear. | However, it doesn't even charge, it seems. Before I went to bed

Re: battery charging and discharging graphs

2008-08-26 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Hello everybody, | | i have made a couple graphs of battery charging and discharging. | | So in case you are interested a have published my results on my blog: |

Re: Wifi / let's have RF stuff powered with high current source all the time because...

2008-08-26 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | On 8/26/08, Joerg Reisenweber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Am Di 26. August 2008 schrieb Uwe Klein: | | Hi, | in this context: | | is there any (hardware) watchdog stuff that limits transmit time and |

Re: battery charging and discharging graphs

2008-08-26 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | No I never saw it before, they mainly look like I would expect. | CURRENT_NOW during charging is interesting it shows the transition from | constant current mode at the start to constant voltage mode where

Re: battery charging and discharging graphs

2008-08-26 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | what worries me in plot 2+3 right now is the fact that suddenly during night | the decharging rate significantly increases (see 24h and and 55h | in plot 2, 5400 min and ~5800 min in plot 3!). ... | just

Re: Wifi / let's have RF stuff powered with high current source all the time because...

2008-08-25 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 09:39:14AM +0100, Andy Green wrote: | | IMO it doesn't make any harm to see MOSFET switches on the power rails | to whole GSM side so there is no question. | | no, it actually causes

Re: Will GTA03 or future device support Camera interface?

2008-08-25 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | HI: | I've noticed that camera driver has been merge into Andy's | kernel branch. | so will GTA03 support camera interface? or further question, | is it possible to make the camera a module interface. |

Re: Wifi / let's have RF stuff powered with high current source all the time because...

2008-08-25 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Andy Green wrote: | No I disagree -- removing the power ensures actual power off. | Everything else is something different than ensure actual power off | | We could call it a built-in power-off switch

Re: Wifi / let's have RF stuff powered with high current source all the time because...

2008-08-25 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Am Mo 25. August 2008 schrieb Werner Almesberger: | Andy Green wrote: | It can be prototyped and the final PA spectral performance compared to | piece of wire, so this is something we can know rather than

Re: Wifi / let's have RF stuff powered with high current source all the time because...

2008-08-25 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Am Mo 25. August 2008 schrieb Andy Green: | Point taken about the GTA03+ module though -- it should take care of | power switching inside the module boundary in a reliable way or the | module is broken, so

Re: Wifi / let's have RF stuff powered with high current source all the time because...

2008-08-25 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | It's a pity I didn't ask him to watch consumption when he was quiet and | not handling the phone. He said that it chewed through some large chunk | of his battery when idle in this state, so the current

Re: Wifi / let's have RF stuff powered with high current source all the time because...

2008-08-25 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Ive seen this a few times on two FR phones (both up to date 2007.2). | Yesterday, after using gps on the way to work tangogps locked up - some | 10 minutes later when I pulled into the car park I picked the

Re: Wifi

2008-08-20 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | On 8/19/08, Joerg Reisenweber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | | This power removal is done by U1705, and it should relyably cut power when we | disable IO_3V3 what is quite normal for shutoff. | No special

Re: Wifi

2008-08-20 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | On 8/20/08, Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- | Hash: SHA1 | | Somebody in the thread at some point said: | | On 8/19/08, Joerg Reisenweber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

Re: Wifi / off-state leakage

2008-08-20 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | So unless we're absolutely sure no GPIO can ever have a non-zero | potential (or only through a very large impedance) while we're in Have a look at the circuit and give some examples of signals that can

Re: Wifi

2008-08-20 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | On 8/20/08, Werner Almesberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | | That's why try to control as many signals to subsystems that are | active in PMU.STANDBY as possible from PMU GPIOs. And yes, it would | be

Re: Wifi

2008-08-20 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | On 8/20/08, Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | We have no control over PMU startup. It brings up various rails how it | likes all at the same time at levels it likes. | The PCF50633 ? | I have printed

Re: Wifi / PMU Startup actions enforced by our variant

2008-08-20 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | On 8/20/08, Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | | Yes, but the datasheet does not have all the info. There are various | mask-programmed options on our variant I don't know are listed anywhere

Re: Wifi / off-state leakage

2008-08-20 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Am Mi 20. August 2008 schrieb Werner Almesberger: | Joerg Reisenweber wrote: | HUH? Please give a pointer or quote! :-( | Phew. Instead of spending the rest of the day searching through our | archives for

Re: GTA04 Block V4

2008-08-17 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | There is good support for the PIC16 series. | | Completely different toolchain, though. | yes, on the other hand sdcc has worked well for me. I also used sdcc on some nice cheap turbo 8051-based Silicon

Re: GTA04 Block V4

2008-08-15 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Andy Green wrote: | -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- | Hash: SHA1 | | Somebody in the thread at some point said: | | | Really USB host is very usable and flexible for these tasks. | | | It mandates

Re: GTA04 Block V4

2008-08-14 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Ian Stirling wrote: | Make a 'debug board' available, but much, much cheaper. | This would be something like (in basic form) | | This has too many moving parts written all over it :-( Granted, | MPU

Re: GTA04 Block V4

2008-08-14 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | On 8/14/08, Ian Stirling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | | This is part of my cunning plan to get a usable connector for expansion | on the phone :) | | Fullsize SD- Card slot for SDIO ? | | what would you like

Re: GTA04 Block V4

2008-08-13 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Andy Green wrote: | Second ARM core... I seem to recall calling this insane and it not | actually helping with the things we need a tiny power-friendly always-on | MPU for, | | Would you consider ST's small

Re: GSM-noise buzz issue

2008-08-12 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Joerg, | Sorry about the wrong message.According to Len's report today, grounding | of pin6 at JK4401 is not work. What about grounding pin 4 directly, did it make any change? Maybe try this during a

Re: GSM firmware hacking

2008-08-11 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | The chance to get caught is even higher. | Operating on the GSM bands automatically means the basestations receive | what you send. | This also means they can (and do) easily recognize if there's something

Re: Publications on MokoForesight

2008-08-07 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | We add couple documents on the section of MokoForesight wiki page. | Of course, the more hardware-analysis documents will come. Enjoy these. :) Hey they were a very cool read, especially iPhone

Re: GPS External antenna detect issue / test recipes

2008-05-01 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 20:18:45 -0300 | Werner Almesberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | | Andy Green wrote: | To my regret forcing Vcont to 3.0V or 0V when on external or | internal antenna did not make any

Re: Y-cable and USB-OTG: mutually exclusive / the four connectivity solutions

2008-05-01 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Andy Green wrote: | This is for the 500mA question? Dunno yet, there can be pins on FTDI | that change state under this circumstance. | | There is :) Pin 41, PWREN# (nPWREN in Openmoko terminology

Re: GPS External antenna detect issue

2008-04-29 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | But at our normal situation with internal antenna and no load on | external antenna, we drive VCONT to 810mV (26% Vdd). | | That might explain some of the things I've been seeing here, bad | reception

Re: Y-cable and USB-OTG: mutually exclusive

2008-04-29 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | By the way 2: drawing power from debug-USB also needs charger detection | and a current limiter for 100mA vs. real power. | | Right. Never will happen, FTDI chip can't do this I think. :- | So we're

Re: GPS External antenna detect issue

2008-04-29 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: Hi Daniel - | That might explain some of the things I've been seeing here, bad | reception with the internal GPS antenna and maybe the failure of the | antenna switch on my v4 was a result of this floating

Re: Y-cable and USB-OTG: mutually exclusive

2008-04-29 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Hello. | | On Tue, 2008-04-29 at 14:22, Andy Green wrote: | Hey I like USB power in, so much so we spnt the morning trying to figure | out how to have two of them. Preaching to the converted :-) | | Good

Re: SDIO multiplexing / Prototype SPI WLAN on current GTA02

2008-04-28 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Hi there, | we played with a number of ideas on the HW side, one of them was around | how we can extend the lifetime of gta02, by making some fixes. | Such as removing the glamo chip. Which would leave no

Re: GTA04 MPU alternatives / CPU can work without MPU

2008-04-28 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Andy Green wrote: | We go on with MSP430FG4618. | | Perfect. Pheew, what a battle :-) What battle... violent agreement broke out from the start. | Now, on to the two remaining MPU issues: Loads of other

Re: SDIO multiplexing

2008-04-28 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | On 28/04/2008, Werner Almesberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Basically a form of SDIO multiplexing. | Other options would be SPI. | | | We once asked Samuel about SPI, and he said that it would be