On 21 Mar 2009, at 01:10, Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH wrote:
On 2009 Mar 20, at 17:02, Hans Aberg wrote:
Therefore, as mentioned before, it might be best to install the GHC
binaries and install libraries like Gtk+ from MacPorts. There is
also Intel Gtk+ that binds directly to Aqua, the
This
On Fri, 2009-03-20 at 14:10 -0400, Jeff Heard wrote:
cabal-install works for me. The one thing that would be REALLY REALLY
nice (and I'm cc-ing Duncan on this) is a .dmg for Gtk2Hs on Mac OS X.
I'm sorry I can't directly help with this. I have no access to any
hardware running OS X. I presume
On Fri, 2009-03-20 at 15:22 -0400, Jeff Heard wrote:
As this continues to build, I guess the issue for me, and I'm willing
to help with it, is trying to figure out how to redistribute programs
written with gtk2hs. on Windows, people can just install the gtk2hs
libraries via the installer --
Ross == Ross Mellgren rmm-hask...@z.odi.ac writes:
Ross While there is not a .dmg for Gtk2Hs, you can use a .dmg
Ross installed GHC with a .dmg installed Gtk, and then build
Ross gtk2hs straight on top of that, without having to deal with
Ross the dual-GHC macports mess..
I tried making this work, but librsvg requires pango, and pango is a
huge pain in the ass -- I managed to get the whole thing to compile,
but now it can't find any fonts, apparently due to some dynaloading
issues.
I think if you need any of the extended modules (e.g. svgcairo, gl)
that
Minor correction -- pango in general is installed with the .DMG of
Gtk... it's pangoft2 (the freetype2 bindings) that librsvg requires
and aren't provided.
-Ross
On Mar 21, 2009, at 12:35 PM, Ross Mellgren wrote:
I tried making this work, but librsvg requires pango, and pango is a
huge
If I try this, pango fails to compile with lots of error messages
about error: macro names must be identifiers.
I think I've seen this before - some well-known Mac OSX problem? (I'm
a linux man myself - so I'm not used to the mac)
2009/3/21 Ross Mellgren rmm-hask...@z.odi.ac:
I tried making
I didn't get any errors like that (nor do I remember ever having
them), though if you want to paste them here maybe I can help with them.
-Ross
On Mar 21, 2009, at 1:27 PM, Colin Adams wrote:
If I try this, pango fails to compile with lots of error messages
about error: macro names must be
In file included from ../pango/pango.h:31,
from pango-impl-utils.h:28,
from fonts.c:30:
../pango/pango-enum-types.h:12:9: error: macro names must be identifiers
../pango/pango-enum-types.h:14:9: error: macro names must be identifiers
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On Mar 21, 2009, at 2:42 PM, Colin Adams wrote:
Yes, that was the problem, and swapping the PATH order does the trick.
Thanks.
no prob.
I must still have the macports stuff installed. Can you tell me how to
get rid of it?
if you really want to get rid
OK - I added the --with-user-pkginfo flag.
It nearly all works now - but still no svgcairo - ./configure doesn't find it.
2009/3/21 Ross Mellgren rmm-hask...@z.odi.ac:
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On Mar 21, 2009, at 2:42 PM, Colin Adams wrote:
Yes, that was the problem, and swapping
Did the configure for gtk2hs claim that it was going to build
svgcairo? If something is wrong with the librsvg install, it won't.
-Ross
On Mar 21, 2009, at 4:49 PM, Colin Adams wrote:
OK - I added the --with-user-pkginfo flag.
It nearly all works now - but still no svgcairo - ./configure
It didn't.
2009/3/21 Ross Mellgren rmm-hask...@z.odi.ac:
Did the configure for gtk2hs claim that it was going to build svgcairo? If
something is wrong with the librsvg install, it won't.
-Ross
On Mar 21, 2009, at 4:49 PM, Colin Adams wrote:
OK - I added the --with-user-pkginfo flag.
It
And the reason is that librsvg fails to find cairo, pangocairo and cairo-png.
Where is it supposed to find them?
2009/3/21 Colin Adams colinpaulad...@googlemail.com:
It didn't.
2009/3/21 Ross Mellgren rmm-hask...@z.odi.ac:
Did the configure for gtk2hs claim that it was going to build
Should be from pkg-config path, make sure your PKG_CONFIG_PATH is set
to include /Library/Frameworks/{GLib,Gtk,Cairo}.framework
Also, I had a problem where it couldn't find libpng -- I had to add /
usr/X11/lib/pkgconfig to my pkg-config path.
-Ross
On Mar 21, 2009, at 5:02 PM, Colin Adams
Hi,
I’ve been thinking of changing over to an iMac from my crappy old PC running
Windows Vista.
Question: Does the iMac have good support for Haskell development?
Question: What environment setups do people commonly use (e.g. Eclipse Xcode
etc)?
Question: Are there any caveats I
2009/3/20 Mark Spezzano mark.spezz...@chariot.net.au:
Hi,
I’ve been thinking of changing over to an iMac from my crappy old PC running
Windows Vista.
Question: Does the iMac have good support for Haskell development?
Question: What environment setups do people commonly use (e.g. Eclipse
Critiano, despite that thread, yes, there is decent support for
Haskell on Mac OS X. The main problem is that the ports system to
install Gtk2Hs isn't terribly great, as in it mostly doesn't work, but
if you're willing to get Gtk2Hs compiled on your own, then after that,
I've found it to be
On 20 Mar 2009, at 16:56, Mark Spezzano wrote:
Hi,
I’ve been thinking of changing over to an iMac from my crappy old PC
running Windows Vista.
Question: Does the iMac have good support for Haskell development?
As good as, if not better than other platforms I've found, you get
none of
tom.davie:
Other than chose the graphics card carefully, an iMac will do you very well.
Hope that helps.
This is very useful.
Could the Mac users add information (and screenshots?) to the OSX wiki
page,
http://haskell.org/haskellwiki/OSX
On 20 Mar 2009, at 18:08, Don Stewart wrote:
tom.davie:
Other than chose the graphics card carefully, an iMac will do you
very well.
Hope that helps.
This is very useful.
Could the Mac users add information (and screenshots?) to the OSX wiki
page,
tom.davie:
On 20 Mar 2009, at 18:08, Don Stewart wrote:
tom.davie:
Other than chose the graphics card carefully, an iMac will do you
very well.
Hope that helps.
This is very useful.
Could the Mac users add information (and screenshots?) to the OSX wiki
page,
On 20 Mar 2009, at 18:46, Don Stewart wrote:
tom.davie:
On 20 Mar 2009, at 18:08, Don Stewart wrote:
tom.davie:
Other than chose the graphics card carefully, an iMac will do you
very well.
Hope that helps.
This is very useful.
Could the Mac users add information (and screenshots?) to
tom.davie:
On 20 Mar 2009, at 18:46, Don Stewart wrote:
tom.davie:
On 20 Mar 2009, at 18:08, Don Stewart wrote:
tom.davie:
Other than chose the graphics card carefully, an iMac will do you
very well.
Hope that helps.
This is very useful.
Could the Mac users add information (and
Don Stewart wrote:
Yes, anything that is relevant to the development experience on this
platform. Remember: it is more than just getting ghc. How do they get
hold of new libraries and apps? Is cabal-install available?
Since GHC is written in Haskell, do you need to have another Haskell
martijn:
Don Stewart wrote:
Yes, anything that is relevant to the development experience on this
platform. Remember: it is more than just getting ghc. How do they get
hold of new libraries and apps? Is cabal-install available?
Since GHC is written in Haskell, do you need to have another
No, you don't.
On 20 Mar 2009, at 21:03, Martijn van Steenbergen wrote:
Don Stewart wrote:
Yes, anything that is relevant to the development experience on this
platform. Remember: it is more than just getting ghc. How do they get
hold of new libraries and apps? Is cabal-install available?
Don Stewart wrote:
martijn:
Don Stewart wrote:
Yes, anything that is relevant to the development experience on this
platform. Remember: it is more than just getting ghc. How do they get
hold of new libraries and apps? Is cabal-install available?
Since GHC is written in Haskell, do you need to
Yes, anything that is relevant to the development experience on this
platform. Remember: it is more than just getting ghc. How do they get
hold of new libraries and apps? Is cabal-install available?
I would be wondering about OS-specific functionality. For example,
it might be worth
2009/03/20 Mark Spezzano mark.spezz...@chariot.net.au:
Question: Does the iMac have good support for Haskell
development?
Yes. I generally use the Mac binary of GHC and then install C
libs with MacPorts.
Question: What environment setups do people commonly use (e.g.
Eclipse Xcode etc)?
While there is not a .dmg for Gtk2Hs, you can use a .dmg installed GHC
with a .dmg installed Gtk, and then build gtk2hs straight on top of
that, without having to deal with the dual-GHC macports mess..
http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Gtk2hs#Using_the_GTK.2B_OS_X_Framework
-Ross
On Mar
That one doesn't work with OpenGL, however and won't in the forseeable
future.Incidentally, just now doing a ports install gtk2hs gives
me the following error on my brand new MacBook:
$ sudo port install gtk2hs
... stuff happens normally ... then:
opt/local/bin/ghc +RTS -RTS -c
Ah wait... I can't read. section 4.1.2 explains the macports
installation. I'll try that.
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 2:56 PM, Jeff Heard jefferson.r.he...@gmail.com wrote:
That one doesn't work with OpenGL, however and won't in the forseeable
future. Incidentally, just now doing a ports
Ah, true. Sorry, my mistake -- I forgot that wasn't supported with the
framework version.
-Ross
On Mar 20, 2009, at 2:56 PM, Jeff Heard wrote:
That one doesn't work with OpenGL, however and won't in the forseeable
future.Incidentally, just now doing a ports install gtk2hs gives
me the
As this continues to build, I guess the issue for me, and I'm willing
to help with it, is trying to figure out how to redistribute programs
written with gtk2hs. on Windows, people can just install the gtk2hs
libraries via the installer -- although this does bork a little
because it assumes you
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 11:06 AM, Don Stewart d...@galois.com wrote:
martijn:
Don Stewart wrote:
Yes, anything that is relevant to the development experience on this
platform. Remember: it is more than just getting ghc. How do they get
hold of new libraries and apps? Is cabal-install
Good to hear you're shipping graphical Haskell apps, Jefferson. Well done.
We do have tools for packaging for various distros:
* Mac OSX:
http://hackage.haskell.org/cgi-bin/hackage-scripts/package/mkbndl
* Windows
http://hackage.haskell.org/cgi-bin/hackage-scripts/package/bamse
dons:
Good to hear you're shipping graphical Haskell apps, Jefferson. Well done.
We do have tools for packaging for various distros:
* Mac OSX:
http://hackage.haskell.org/cgi-bin/hackage-scripts/package/mkbndl
* Windows
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 1:05 PM, David Leimbach leim...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 11:06 AM, Don Stewart d...@galois.com wrote:
martijn:
Don Stewart wrote:
Yes, anything that is relevant to the development experience on this
platform. Remember: it is more than just
Don, good to know; I hadn't checked for packaging tools outside of
cabal in Hackage :)
2009/3/20 Don Stewart d...@galois.com:
dons:
Good to hear you're shipping graphical Haskell apps, Jefferson. Well done.
We do have tools for packaging for various distros:
* Mac OSX:
Hello Jeff,
Friday, March 20, 2009, 10:22:35 PM, you wrote:
As this continues to build, I guess the issue for me, and I'm willing
to help with it, is trying to figure out how to redistribute programs
written with gtk2hs. on Windows, people can just install the gtk2hs
libraries via the
On 20 Mar 2009, at 21:05, David Leimbach wrote:
Since GHC is written in Haskell, do you need to have another Haskell
compiler installed before GHC 6.10.1 can be installed through
MacPorts?
It bootstraps itself.
??? GHC does or MacPorts does. My experience was that you needed
GHC to
bulat.ziganshin:
Hello Jeff,
Friday, March 20, 2009, 10:22:35 PM, you wrote:
As this continues to build, I guess the issue for me, and I'm willing
to help with it, is trying to figure out how to redistribute programs
written with gtk2hs. on Windows, people can just install the gtk2hs
Hello Don,
Saturday, March 21, 2009, 12:06:48 AM, you wrote:
i distribute my gtk2hs program for windows and linux. no problems, i
just included runtime libraries provided by gtk2hs team. it was with
gtk2hs 0.9.12.1 though, may be they don't provided updated archive for
newer gtk2hs versions?
bulat.ziganshin:
Hello Don,
Saturday, March 21, 2009, 12:06:48 AM, you wrote:
i distribute my gtk2hs program for windows and linux. no problems, i
just included runtime libraries provided by gtk2hs team. it was with
gtk2hs 0.9.12.1 though, may be they don't provided updated archive for
MacPort developers tweak sources into packages which can install by
themselves. So one just types
sudo port install ghc
and it does the rest. Here is info about ghc:
$ port info ghc
ghc 6.8.3, Revision 1, lang/ghc (Variants: universal, darwin_6,
darwin_7, darwin_8_powerpc, darwin_8_i386,
On 20 Mar 2009, at 22:44, Miguel Mitrofanov wrote:
Here is info about ghc:
$ port info ghc
ghc 6.8.3, Revision 1, lang/ghc (Variants: universal, darwin_6,
darwin_7, darwin_8_powerpc, darwin_8_i386, darwin_9_powerpc,
darwin_9_i386, no_opengl)
http://haskell.org/
A bit out of date:
On 20 Mar 2009, at 22:44, Miguel Mitrofanov wrote:
A bit out of date:
MigMit:~ MigMit$ port info ghc
ghc @6.10.1, Revision 8 (lang, haskell)
...blah-blah...
Maybe, your $(port version) is still 1.600?
Yes, now it worked:
$ port version
Version: 1.700
$ port info ghc
ghc @6.10.1, Revision 9
On 2009 Mar 20, at 17:02, Hans Aberg wrote:
Therefore, as mentioned before, it might be best to install the GHC
binaries and install libraries like Gtk+ from MacPorts. There is
also Intel Gtk+ that binds directly to Aqua, the
This won;t work as you expect: since there's a dependency on
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