Re: Proposal: Add-on packs

2013-05-30 Thread harry
Howard B. Golden writes: > OK. I'm convinced about the Mac installation situation. Unfortunately, I can't help with that because I > have no software experience with the Mac. Windows looks more tractable. I will try to use Gtk2hs and > (hopefully) wxhaskell on Windows and report my experiences. I

Re: Proposal: Add-on packs

2013-05-30 Thread Howard B. Golden
OK. I'm convinced about the Mac installation situation. Unfortunately, I can't help with that because I have no software experience with the Mac. Windows looks more tractable. I will try to use Gtk2hs and (hopefully) wxhaskell on Windows and report my experiences. If I'm successful I will see wh

Re: Proposal: Add-on packs

2013-05-30 Thread Mark Lentczner
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 8:39 AM, Howard B. Golden wrote: > Could you explain what you mean by complexity of installation? > >From the same page: *3 Mac* There are one-off experience reports of varying age available at Gtk2Hs/Mac. Please write to the mailing list if you are willing to maintain g

Re: Proposal: Add-on packs

2013-05-30 Thread Howard B. Golden
Mark Lentczner writes: > Doing this for the Gtk2hs project would require a significant effort. Judging from the complexity of the installation instructions for both Gtk2hs and Gtk, and the fact that the Gtk project itself has never managed to create such an installer, it would probably require s

Re: Proposal: Add-on packs

2013-05-30 Thread Gregory Collins
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 10:51 AM, harry wrote: > So is the consensus that this would be a good idea (assuming that the > included packages met all of the usual requirements for HP inclusion), but > there's a lack of person-power to do it? > No: at least in my opinion this idea is out of scope fo

Re: Proposal: Add-on packs

2013-05-30 Thread harry
Mark Lentczner writes: > Ah - we're getting somewhere: What I meant was: "If the Gtk2hs team cannot build a binary release / installer, why do you think the HP team can?" > > > Building a binary release installer is no simple task, and very specific to the needs of a particular project. For Mac

Re: Proposal: Add-on packs

2013-05-29 Thread Mark Lentczner
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 9:09 PM, Jason Dagit wrote: > Let's be clear/honest here: It is possible to build Gtk2hs and I'm > talking about making a binary release/installer available (where that > makes sense ie., Windows/OSX). > > What isn't likely to work is building it with little expertise or

Re: Proposal: Add-on packs

2013-05-29 Thread Jason Dagit
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 7:38 PM, Mark Lentczner wrote: > On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 6:44 PM, Jason Dagit wrote: >> >> Trying to respond to this, I run smack into the question of, "Well, >> >> what value does/should the HP provide?" ... I think people who want >> >> to get started with Haskell, and h

Re: Proposal: Add-on packs

2013-05-29 Thread Mark Lentczner
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 6:44 PM, Jason Dagit wrote: > Trying to respond to this, I run smack into the question of, "Well, > what value does/should the HP provide?" ... I think people who want > to get started with Haskell, and have something simple but full > featured to install, are the audience

Re: Proposal: Add-on packs

2013-05-29 Thread Jason Dagit
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 5:51 PM, Mark Lentczner wrote: > On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 4:59 PM, Jason Dagit wrote: >> >> I expect it would be different in the way that anything installed as >> part of the platform is different: It's a blessed version and part of >> a coherent set of packages. > > > But

Re: Proposal: Add-on packs

2013-05-29 Thread Mark Lentczner
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 4:59 PM, Jason Dagit wrote: > I expect it would be different in the way that anything installed as > part of the platform is different: It's a blessed version and part of > a coherent set of packages. > But as an add-on pack, why not just publish WxHaskell-Stable with a

Re: Proposal: Add-on packs

2013-05-29 Thread Jason Dagit
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Mark Lentczner wrote: > How would an add-on pack be any different than a package installed from > Hackage? I expect it would be different in the way that anything installed as part of the platform is different: It's a blessed version and part of a coherent set of

Re: Proposal: Add-on packs

2013-05-29 Thread Mark Lentczner
How would an add-on pack be any different than a package installed from Hackage? Why not just package WxHaskell in a way that cabal install WxHaskell is sufficient? ​ We've had others talk about not having OpenGL or GLUT in the HP, but as Jason points out - we really don't have the volunteer bandwi

Re: Proposal: Add-on packs

2013-05-29 Thread Jason Dagit
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 11:23 AM, harry wrote: > Instead, perhaps OpenGL and GLUT could be moved to a separate add-on pack, > along with WxHaskell and/or Gtk2Hs. This would enable a slimmed-down core > platform for general use, and graphical developers could install the add-on > pack with a full