URLs for new developers 20000822

2000-08-22 Thread Jim Franklin
Hi Folks,   URLs for new developers is now changed to the hurd development and information links.  I am attaching a copy named the _hurd_links.html that you can store in your file for quick access if you wish.   Have fun Jim Title: The Hurd Development and Information Links GNU GPL Copy

Re: Linux drivers in gnumach

2000-08-22 Thread Christopher C. Chimelis
On Tue, 22 Aug 2000, Roland McGrath wrote: > There has been almost no hacking done on gnumach since I did oskit-mach. > Your porting efforts are the first time lately anyone has been serious > about microkernel hacking. That's good news (I think :-P). I checked the 2000-05-05 snapshot of OSKit

Re: Portability of the Hurd (or: Using other Mach Kernels)

2000-08-22 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Wed, Aug 23, 2000 at 01:59:58AM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > >3. Integrating the latest version of the Linux device drivers > > to the Hurd should be further investigated, > > probably by moving them into user-land.] > > I think this is orthogonal to

Re: Portability of the Hurd (or: Using other Mach Kernels)

2000-08-22 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
Hi Farid, without wanting to harm the essential message of your mail, I have two comments. On Wed, Aug 23, 2000 at 12:49:37AM +0200, Farid Hajji wrote: >2. There are other Mach implementations besides gnumach with a > richer or different set of features. Besides using t

Portability of the Hurd (or: Using other Mach Kernels)

2000-08-22 Thread Farid Hajji
Abstract: [1. Keep the Hurd interface(s) to Mach as portable as possible, so that most/each Mach implementation can be used. 2. There are other Mach implementations besides gnumach with a richer or different set of features. Besides using the Hurd

Re: Linux drivers in gnumach

2000-08-22 Thread Daniel Wagner
On Tue, 22 Aug 2000, Jeff Bailey wrote: > > That's a good reason not to look at it right away :-P Has anyone here > > actually tried a boot with OSKit besides Jeff? > > In previous discussions, I have been the only one having this trouble. Now you're now allone anymore. I have got trouble too

Re: Linux drivers in gnumach

2000-08-22 Thread Roland McGrath
> Perhaps. I'm looking at both, but working more on gnumach really. If > everyone keeps nudging us to work on oskit so much, why does anyone bother > working on gnumach? Just curious... There has been almost no hacking done on gnumach since I did oskit-mach. Your porting efforts are the first

Re: Linux drivers in gnumach

2000-08-22 Thread Christopher C. Chimelis
On Wed, 23 Aug 2000, OKUJI Yoshinori wrote: > You just misunderstand something: Not everyone tells you to work on > OSKit. Actually, I myself don't recommend using OSKit. Ah, finally, someone who wants us to deal with gnumach! :-) It's just that I'd heard from more than four people that we s

Re: Linux drivers in gnumach

2000-08-22 Thread Jeff Bailey
On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 01:53:55PM -0400, Christopher C. Chimelis wrote: > > Because try as I might, I still have never done a succesful boot of > > OsKit-Mach. > > That's a good reason not to look at it right away :-P Has anyone here > actually tried a boot with OSKit besides Jeff? In prev

Re: Linux drivers in gnumach

2000-08-22 Thread Christopher C. Chimelis
On Tue, 22 Aug 2000, Jeff Bailey wrote: > Because try as I might, I still have never done a succesful boot of > OsKit-Mach. That's a good reason not to look at it right away :-P Has anyone here actually tried a boot with OSKit besides Jeff? C

Re: Linux drivers in gnumach

2000-08-22 Thread Jeff Bailey
On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 11:04:39AM -0400, Christopher C. Chimelis wrote: > Perhaps. I'm looking at both, but working more on gnumach really. If > everyone keeps nudging us to work on oskit so much, why does anyone bother > working on gnumach? Just curious... Because try as I might, I still ha

Re: Linux drivers in gnumach

2000-08-22 Thread OKUJI Yoshinori
From: "Christopher C. Chimelis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Linux drivers in gnumach Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 11:04:39 -0400 (EDT) > Perhaps. I'm looking at both, but working more on gnumach really. If > everyone keeps nudging us to work on oskit so much, why does anyone bother > working on

Re: Linux drivers in gnumach

2000-08-22 Thread Christopher C. Chimelis
On Tue, 22 Aug 2000, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > I hope you'll be asked a third time, because then it becomes the truth :) Hehehe... > Ugh, even oskit-mach contains i386 specific code, but less then gnumach > without oskit. So, it might actually be easier to port oskit-mach, and you > might be a

Re: Linux drivers in gnumach

2000-08-22 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
Hi, On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 09:22:38AM -0400, Christopher C. Chimelis wrote: > > Can you port oskit-mach to alpha? This would probably more straightforward > > and more helpful in the long run, too. > > Ugh...second time we've been asked this. I hope you'll be asked a third time, because then i

Re: Linux drivers in gnumach

2000-08-22 Thread Christopher C. Chimelis
On Tue, 22 Aug 2000, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > Okuji gave all the right answers for that. With little variations, the same > reasons apply to me and probably everyone else around here. Hmmm...well, the reason we ask is because there are a few devices that weren't supported under 2.0.x kernels o

Re: Linux drivers in gnumach

2000-08-22 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Mon, Aug 21, 2000 at 11:30:59AM -0700, Ron Farrer wrote: > What's the deal with the Linux drivers in gnumach. They are from > 2.0.36... is there a reason why they are not updated to something a bit > less dusty? Okuji gave all the right answers for that. With little variations, the same reaso

Re: Linux drivers in gnumach

2000-08-22 Thread Per Lundberg
> "OY" == OKUJI Yoshinori <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: OY> * I don't want to see the source code of GNU Mach any longer, OY> if possible. Well, it can't be much worse than the Linux source, can it? :-)