Re: [hexayurt] Suggestions for Modeling - Drawing Programs Online?

2011-08-03 Thread Vinay Gupta (Hexayurt Shelter Project)
If you look at the Google SketchUp Model Repository there are hexayurt models there - see http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/search?q=hexayurt&styp=m&btnG=Search V> On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 1:06 AM, Cody Firestone <4x4c...@gmail.com> wrote: > google sketch up > > follow the tutorial and then

Re: [hexayurt] Suggestions for Modeling - Drawing Programs Online?

2011-08-03 Thread Cody Firestone
google sketch up follow the tutorial and then just use it. On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Dave Cherry wrote: > Google Sketchup > http://sketchup.google.com/ > > > On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 3:02 PM, ken winston caine < > k...@mindbodyspiritjournal.com> wrote: > >> Breaking this request out from an

Re: [hexayurt] Suggestions for Modeling - Drawing Programs Online?

2011-08-03 Thread Dave Cherry
Google Sketchup http://sketchup.google.com/ On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 3:02 PM, ken winston caine < k...@mindbodyspiritjournal.com> wrote: > Breaking this request out from an earlier post. > > Have noticed some clever members here have been modeling hexayurt designs > using free online CAD-like progr

Re: [hexayurt] Re: For Vinay: -- Questions about foam-board choices between XPS and EPS

2011-08-03 Thread ken winston caine
KK, I just looked at the listing you posted for Henry's white elastomeric coating and it does say 5 gallons in the listing. Am certain that just last week I priced that same stuff at the Santa Fe Home Depot and saw that it now was 4.75 gallons. BICBW. -- ken - Original Message - From:

[hexayurt] Suggestions for Modeling - Drawing Programs Online?

2011-08-03 Thread ken winston caine
Breaking this request out from an earlier post. Have noticed some clever members here have been modeling hexayurt designs using free online CAD-like programs that appear to do a lot of useful calculations. Have never used a CAD type of program, (although I bought one in 1988). I am a bit Photo

Re: [hexayurt] Re: For Vinay: -- Questions about foam-board choices between XPS and EPS

2011-08-03 Thread ken winston caine
5 gallons is 4.75 gallons in 2011. I was surprised to find that out. That way with ALL the coatings, not just the elastomeric white. (Didn't check to see what a 5 gallon paint bucket holds these days. Need to do that next visit.) The Henry's white elastomeric coating doesn't spread very far. I'

[hexayurt] Re: For Vinay: -- Questions about foam-board choices between XPS and EPS

2011-08-03 Thread KK
Ken, if you are going to encapsulate a building the white foam should be just fine. Just make sure the density is what you want. They grade it just like pink/blue board. It's all styrene based stuff, just different "toughness". But HD always carries the worst and cheapest grade on the shelves. To

Re: [hexayurt] paint

2011-08-03 Thread kenwinston caine
I second the suggestion of using acrylics. They tend to adhere to most poly surfaces. You'll have to experiment. And... if you go to a crafts store (like Michaels, for a Big Box example), you can buy "non-toxic" acrylic powders for mix-your-own paints for around $2 a pound. They mix with water. St

[hexayurt] Re: For Vinay: -- Questions about foam-board choices between XPS and EPS

2011-08-03 Thread kenwinston caine
Am probably going to forgo the foam altogether and just build a conduit hexayurt frame (modified and larger than what we're currently doing and with a higher pitched roof. Am leaning toward a 24' diameter, two story or 1-1/2 story high hex shape. 1-1/2 is probably tall enough to have a decent-sized

[hexayurt] Re: For Vinay: -- Questions about foam-board choices between XPS and EPS

2011-08-03 Thread KK
Ok, in looking at the outgassing of polystyrene (pink/blue board), I came across this stuff. The "outgassing" hazard might not actually exist in the way commonly stated. Surfboard makers, signmakers, and aircraft builders have spread a "myth" of outgassing. It's actually delamination of their app

Re: [SPAM] [hexayurt] paint

2011-08-03 Thread Spiral Syzygy
I painted the inside of our yurt a few years back with latex paint. This was on the non-aluminized side of Tuff-R. It hols up fine but gets a little tacky if you face two painted surfaces toward each other when stacking the panels. This resulted in some paint pulling off when seperating the panels

[hexayurt] Re: For Vinay: -- Questions about foam-board choices between XPS and EPS

2011-08-03 Thread KK
Outgassing info on pink/blue foam boards: http://www.sumidacrossing.org/SumidaCrossing/MaterialSafety.html "The typical “insulation” foam panels, including Owens-Corning’s pink Foamular brand, are Extruded Polystyrene (XPS), which is basically gas bubbles trapped in foamed plastic which has been

[hexayurt] Re: For Vinay: -- Questions about foam-board choices between XPS and EPS

2011-08-03 Thread KK
I know this is rehashing things... Dow claims: http://bit.ly/oQ1bNi "Do THERMAX™ Polyisocyanurate Insulation or TUFF-R™ Polyisocyanurate Insulation outgas any toxic materials/gases? THERMAX™ Polyisocyanurate Insulation and TUFF-R™ Polyisocyanurate Insulation do not outgas any toxic material over

Re: [SPAM] [hexayurt] paint

2011-08-03 Thread Joshua Keroes
I'm no paint expert, but I'd guess that if you painted before you hit the playa and gave the paint plenty of curing time, you'd be fine. Ideally, you want a low-VOC paint - see http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/magazine-archive/march-2009/home-garden/interior-paints/overview/interior-paints-ov.htm

[hexayurt] Re: For Vinay: -- Questions about foam-board choices between XPS and EPS

2011-08-03 Thread KK
The white board is crumbly, especially the cheap foil coated stuff that HD sells right now. It's hateful to work with. Blue and pink boards do have some of the disadvantages Vinay mentioned. But, they are far superior at rejecting moisture. Dow themselves has a paper on it. I need to find it again

Re: [SPAM] [hexayurt] paint

2011-08-03 Thread Alyssa Royse
cool. i should have been more specific - i want to paint the inside. but if it held up on the outside, then the inside should be fine. :) just worried about getting high on fumes. or, sick, actually. high? meh. Not So Secret http://notsosecret.com Personal Pontificatio

RE: [SPAM] [hexayurt] paint

2011-08-03 Thread Bill Wiltschko
Some artists painted the outside of my hexayurt with acrylic paint last year. It held up very well on playa. I don't know what the drying time was. From: hexayurt@googlegroups.com [mailto:hexayurt@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alyssa Royse Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 8:56 AM To: hexayur

[hexayurt] paint

2011-08-03 Thread Alyssa Royse
can the inside of the yurts be painted? I'd like to not look at the labeling on the inside, but am worried about some things on the playa: 1. how the paint wild adhere - don't want to be snowing paint flakes 2. off-gassing - what kind of paint would be totally safe and how much drying time does

Re: [hexayurt] Here are some of the stucco-coated foam facia and mouldings used in construction

2011-08-03 Thread Richard Ginn
Some materials will bond with foam, others will not. I heard that traditional stucco will not bond with foam and requires mesh to adhere to. Other materials can be sprayed on and stick well, making a permanent shell. Consider a 100-year hexayurt, or 500-year. On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 2:36 AM, ken