Re: [Histonet] Iron Stain

2018-08-08 Thread Tony Henwood (SCHN) via Histonet
Try your eosin stain used in your H or 1% Neutral red in 2% acetic acid

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Subject: [Histonet] Iron Stain

Is nuclear fast red the only counter stain for Prussian blue stain?  I have a 
Masson's trichrome kit and was wondering if the Bierbech Scarlet could be a 
counterstain.  I won't be doing the iron stain very often at all so I am trying 
to keep dry reagents on hand to make up as needed so they do not expire so 
quickly.  Thanks!




Tasha Campbell, B.S.,HTL(ASCP)
Frederick Gastroenterology Associates
310 W. 9th St.
Frederick, MD 21701
301-695-6800 ext. 144

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[Histonet] Buffy Coat Subspecialty

2018-08-08 Thread Pratt, Caroline via Histonet
Good afternoon,

Does anyone know the correct subspecialty for Buffy Coats on the CLIA 
certificate?

Any feedback would be appreciated!


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Re: [Histonet] Iron Stain

2018-08-08 Thread Caroline Miller via Histonet
HI Tasha,

The nuclear fast red will stain the nuclei red, the biebrich scarlet is a
connective tissue stain and may cover up the (sometimes sparse) prussian
blue localization of iron in the tissues. I, personally, would not consider
these reagents swappable.

In my experience nuclear fast red does last a long time, but I am also not
in a lab where expiration dates matter.

mills
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On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 4:52 AM Campbell, Tasha M. via Histonet <
histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu> wrote:

> Is nuclear fast red the only counter stain for Prussian blue stain?  I
> have a Masson's trichrome kit and was wondering if the Bierbech Scarlet
> could be a counterstain.  I won't be doing the iron stain very often at all
> so I am trying to keep dry reagents on hand to make up as needed so they do
> not expire so quickly.  Thanks!
>
>
>
>
> Tasha Campbell, B.S.,HTL(ASCP)
> Frederick Gastroenterology Associates
> 310 W. 9th St.
> Frederick, MD 21701
> 301-695-6800 ext. 144
>
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Re: [Histonet] Iron Stain

2018-08-08 Thread Caroline Miller via Histonet
Oops, yes, I am mixing up neutral red - and the recipe from Bryan is what I
use - it last forever.

I have had luck with nuclear fast red from vector - comes made up. That
lasts a little longer than lab made.

mills
ᐧ

On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 12:52 PM Caroline Miller  wrote:

> HI Tasha,
>
> The nuclear fast red will stain the nuclei red, the biebrich scarlet is a
> connective tissue stain and may cover up the (sometimes sparse) prussian
> blue localization of iron in the tissues. I, personally, would not consider
> these reagents swappable.
>
> In my experience nuclear fast red does last a long time, but I am also not
> in a lab where expiration dates matter.
>
> mills
> ᐧ
>
> On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 4:52 AM Campbell, Tasha M. via Histonet <
> histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu> wrote:
>
>> Is nuclear fast red the only counter stain for Prussian blue stain?  I
>> have a Masson's trichrome kit and was wondering if the Bierbech Scarlet
>> could be a counterstain.  I won't be doing the iron stain very often at all
>> so I am trying to keep dry reagents on hand to make up as needed so they do
>> not expire so quickly.  Thanks!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Tasha Campbell, B.S.,HTL(ASCP)
>> Frederick Gastroenterology Associates
>> 310 W. 9th St.
>> Frederick, MD 21701
>> 301-695-6800 ext. 144
>>
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>
>
> --
> Caroline Miller (mills)
> Director of Biology
>
> www.3Scan.com
> 415 2187297
>
>
>

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Re: [Histonet] Iron Stain

2018-08-08 Thread Bryan Llewellyn via Histonet
1% neutral red in 0.01% acetic acid (1 mL of 1% per 100 mL stain) works, 
as does 1% safranin. Both are stable, although should be filtered from 
time to time. Stain 1 minute, water rinse, ethanol, xylene and mount 
should work. I had one pathologist who preferred a very light 
progressive H She said she was interested in increased amounts of 
iron and normal amounts not being glaringly obvious didn't bother her.


Bryan Llewellyn


Bob Richmond via Histonet wrote:

Tasha Campbell, B.S.,HTL(ASCP), at Frederick Gastroenterology Associates in
Frederick, Maryland asks:


Is nuclear fast red the only counter stain for the Prussian blue stain? I

have a Masson's trichrome kit and was wondering if [Biebrich] scarlet could
be [used as] a counterstain. I won't be doing the iron stain very often at
all so I am trying to keep dry reagents on hand to make up as needed so
they do not expire so quickly.<<

This old pathologist never found Biebrich scarlet or the various fuchsins
to be satisfactory substitutes for nuclear fast red - they're too dense,
and they don't stain nuclei specifically.

Nuclear fast red (Kernechtrot, C.I. 60760) is a dye with problems - poor
shelf life both dry and in solution, and it will probably go out of
manufacture eventually. It's used as an aluminum lake for staining nuclei.

I'm not sure what would serve as an alternative. I'd like to know more
about brazilin (particularly about Anatech's Brazilliant), a catechol dye
similar to hematoxylin, with good specificity for nuclei.

Bob Richmond
Samurai Pathologist
Maryville TN
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Re: [Histonet] Iron Stain

2018-08-08 Thread Bob Richmond via Histonet
Tasha Campbell, B.S.,HTL(ASCP), at Frederick Gastroenterology Associates in
Frederick, Maryland asks:

>>Is nuclear fast red the only counter stain for the Prussian blue stain? I
have a Masson's trichrome kit and was wondering if [Biebrich] scarlet could
be [used as] a counterstain. I won't be doing the iron stain very often at
all so I am trying to keep dry reagents on hand to make up as needed so
they do not expire so quickly.<<

This old pathologist never found Biebrich scarlet or the various fuchsins
to be satisfactory substitutes for nuclear fast red - they're too dense,
and they don't stain nuclei specifically.

Nuclear fast red (Kernechtrot, C.I. 60760) is a dye with problems - poor
shelf life both dry and in solution, and it will probably go out of
manufacture eventually. It's used as an aluminum lake for staining nuclei.

I'm not sure what would serve as an alternative. I'd like to know more
about brazilin (particularly about Anatech's Brazilliant), a catechol dye
similar to hematoxylin, with good specificity for nuclei.

Bob Richmond
Samurai Pathologist
Maryville TN
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[Histonet] Iron Stain

2018-08-08 Thread Campbell, Tasha M. via Histonet
Is nuclear fast red the only counter stain for Prussian blue stain?  I have a 
Masson's trichrome kit and was wondering if the Bierbech Scarlet could be a 
counterstain.  I won't be doing the iron stain very often at all so I am trying 
to keep dry reagents on hand to make up as needed so they do not expire so 
quickly.  Thanks!




Tasha Campbell, B.S.,HTL(ASCP)
Frederick Gastroenterology Associates
310 W. 9th St.
Frederick, MD 21701
301-695-6800 ext. 144

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