Meant to post the following reply on the mailing list:
A better idea for quickplay clients would've been to have render static
content only, while any normal (non-quickplay) client has the full HTML
MOTD still. Do I have to also mention a forgotten detail? It's convenient
for you to solely blame
It is too late – look at how old the game is. No reply in months no matter how
many emails we send to them, replies to this mailing list, reddit posts you
guys make it does NOT matter!
It would be different slightly different if one of them would have replied and
said something other than “ We
That's not what we're mad at, the anger is directed to the continued use of
new missions that continue to take people over to Valve servers for
something we can't compete with, essentially free skins.
On Sat, Dec 19, 2015 at 4:56 PM, Lyrai wrote:
> That's a lot of anger over
That wasn’t a drunken rant… just pointing out what seems to be more important
to them.
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Well yeah we're too late for now but that doesn't mean we can't get
ourselves together still, the problem at the core isn't going to go away
over Christmas break
On Sat, Dec 19, 2015 at 4:20 PM, HD wrote:
> Why do you guys continue to bother? Valve doesn’t care, they
That's a lot of anger over paints. Items from stocking stuffers have never
been tradeabke, to stop people from rolling new accounts and trading the
freebies to a new one en masse.
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"I've heard all the arguments in favor of them, but in the end it will all
come down to perception. MOTD ads have painted all community servers with
the same brush in the eyes of the players, to include those communities
that have never used them. Until and unless we're willing to come to a
Why do you guys continue to bother? Valve doesn’t care, they haven’t replied.
Came on last night to let us know of an update to prevent what looked like a
good batch of gifts by stopping the trade of the paints and never acknowledged
anyone or any post about how they have refused to support the
Well I wish you the best on that journey, and the same to all whom agree,
but not all of us feel that way and those who want to stay and try and fix
things will continue to do so
On Sat, Dec 19, 2015 at 4:35 PM, HD wrote:
> It is too late – look at how old the game is. No
Not you, the guy who mentioned paints in his drunken rant against mean
sherrif Valve.
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How about instead of writing emails complaining about unfair treatment in
regards to competing with official servers you used that time to come up
with ways to compete with them.
Look at the CSGO server operators, they have it much worse then their tf2
counter parts but they are not on here
Ahh, my bad
On Sat, Dec 19, 2015 at 5:22 PM, HD wrote:
> That wasn’t a drunken rant… just pointing out what seems to be more
> important to them.
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> *From:* hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:
> hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] *On Behalf Of *Lyrai
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I read "idiocy", I'm smelling the troll again.
There are points regarding adverts and quickplay though. Lack of
transparency (also due to ads and the pretty hidden advanced option to
disable motds) forces more people to use QP. Ads are also the main point
of community servers' bad rep.
Matthias, there is a distinct difference between you and I and how we
operate. You see, when I dish out an ad hominem attack (Such as making
reference to the "idiocy" of Matthias posts past.) I still have the decency
to address the apparent essence of the person's non ad hominem arguments -
That
E. Olsen’s argument and implicit statement that adverts are the problem is
a complete non sequitur when it comes to the topic of Quickplay, the likes
of which far and exceed the idiocy of Matthias and co. from earlier posts.
Firstly, I’d like a written admission from E. Olsen that if,
Again, there is nothing wrong with us trying to organize, but I do like the
idea of a third party QP system that focuses on us, would people use it?
Not without some incentive perhaps, but it's an idea worth considering all
the same. Who all in here do we have from CS:GO? I don't personally know
Lets not forget that adverts aren't an issue with Quickplay clients
anymore. That's outdated information, Valve disabled the HTML MOTD for that
type of connection before later on eventually pointing Quickplay to their
official servers by default.
Ultimately the issue that exists is the potential
If we are talking about transparency I think we need to talk about a few
people's bizarre fixation on ads even though after being repeatedly told
they were 100% blocked for quickplay players long before the official
server change.
If you were a normal player, you would have known that. But you
Of course - the fact that the long-standing functionality of the MOTD
window had to be disabled in the first place meant that those of us who
never used those ads lost the ability to display important info in-game to
the majority of new playersso yeah, thanks for that.
I find it incredibly
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