WON.. hahah so true.
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Why in gods name its difficult to set things up so peoples
It's really funny how all of you people think you're some kind of genius and
have an easy solution. The problem is, you know nothing, and are not helping
in any way.
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If you server admins really wanted to do something stop your servers for one
day ... Lets say this Friday.
See what Valve does then.
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Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 3:42 PM
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Mike, a day is not enough, lets say a week!
K. Mike Bradley wrote:
If you server admins really wanted to do something stop your servers for one
day ... Lets say this Friday.
See what Valve does then.
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Stealth I think your wrong about supporting cheating. There's a big
difference between actively going after it, or jacking up it's priority on the
todo: list but to say they support it a claim which really is not supported
by the facts, at least in the not so distant past.
That said it's a
If you honestly think that, then you're totally beyond all hope. Become
a programmer sometime, as see if YOU can fix the current system.
Of course they're working on fixing it, but like when a dam cracks, and
the water starts cascading out, there's no 'easy' solution to the
problem you're faced
Thats just it, you won't hear a peep from them! On a serious note, I am
open to anything that would work.
Happy Holidays
J Marcus wrote:
Nah that is not the answer..it would just help the empty servers. Why not
have a open discussion about it on this mailing list. Not looking to go into
anything
Ricochet:Source LOL! Dear God no!
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Having the admins take down the server will be the only way of pushing valve
to fix this.
No servers = No one plays online = Valve in big trouble.
I doubt it's an easy fix, but it's something they MUST do, why even bother
working with a game that everyone just cheats in? Why should I be
And all our servers wouldn't amount to 1% of the total. :(
On Tue, 2004-12-14 at 17:59 -0500, Roc wrote:
Mike, a day is not enough, lets say a week!
K. Mike Bradley wrote:
If you server admins really wanted to do something stop your servers for one
day ... Lets say this Friday.
See what
Who told you so?
On Wed, 2004-12-15 at 12:07 +1100, Bruce Bahamut Andrews wrote:
Turning off your servers will achieve nothing other then irritated
users, it won't speed up their software development schedule, there's
people working on fixes, we just have to wait :/
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It wont hurt and it mite send a message.
There has been a discussion for over 8 months now so that don't work ...
Show some solidarity admins!
DO SOMETHING TO BREAK THE IMPASSE!
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IMO, this Friday is too soon, we need some organization and lots of
folks (web sites) to spread the word
Happy Holidays
K. Mike Bradley wrote:
It wont hurt and it mite send a message.
There has been a discussion for over 8 months now so that don't work ...
Show some solidarity admins!
DO SOMETHING
So then spread the word
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Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 10:55 PM
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We would need close to total admin
I'm all for a shut down of my servers in protest. I think I have bitched
and moaned about the negligence of VAC for years... and every time I do,
someone says Oh, they are working on it... be patient. 2 years
later... MORE hackers than pre-steam.
I participate in Steambans.com (I'm ranked #1 on
You must not forget to get the media involved (c-net, zd-net, abc, cbs,
post, times, etc..). Only then will it truly work.
Happy Holidays
Andrew R. Mitcham wrote:
I'm all for a shut down of my servers in protest. I think I have bitched
and moaned about the negligence of VAC for years... and every
Haha yea...
I am very pissed that Valve hasnt had more support for Steam related
technology since the release of Half-Life 2... I mean Steam has been buggy
and weird in general, and had poor anti-cheat protection for a while now...
but now that I've forked over $60 for half-life 2, I kind of
Hey
All I'm asking is for VAC and STEAM to employ some of the simple
logical principles that Cheating Death already uses!
Whatever system you create is going to get hacked
Its up to you to create a system that is resilent in the face of these
attacks and is easy to reconfigure when your system
Why in gods name its difficult to set things up so peoples STEAM_ID's
that are used in servers can only be autheticated against a database
that Valve has access to AND have the database set to only allow
people on to servers who have legitamately set up STEAM Accounts is
beyond me???
WON anyone??
But I would like to hear some offical word on how VALVe plains to stop all
this foolishness.
I think every admin on this list would. However, lets look at something for
a minute.
I think Valve supports cheating. Why do I say this? Why is there an option
in the server software to disable
Nah that is not the answer..it would just help the empty servers. Why not
have a open discussion about it on this mailing list. Not looking to go into
anything specific but to have absolutely no response or participation in the
dialog from Valve just doesn't sit well with me. Or did I miss
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If you server admins really wanted to do something stop your servers for
one day ... Lets say this Friday.
See what Valve does then.
That is a *really* interesting notion.
Given that
Turning off your servers will achieve nothing other then irritated
users, it won't speed up their software development schedule, there's
people working on fixes, we just have to wait :/
- Bruce Bahamut Andrews
OConnor John wrote:
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No ... It will irritate the Hackers ... Not the users since we all gave up
playing.
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Andrews
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 8:08 PM
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We would need close to total admin participation for that theory to
even remotly work. We could try, but its an empty threat as of now.
On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 00:47:29 -0300, Marcelo Bezerra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Who told you so?
On Wed, 2004-12-15 at 12:07 +1100, Bruce Bahamut Andrews wrote:
Try emailing people off-list.
- Bruce Bahamut Andrews
Marcelo Bezerra wrote:
Who told you so?
On Wed, 2004-12-15 at 12:07 +1100, Bruce Bahamut Andrews wrote:
Turning off your servers will achieve nothing other then irritated
users, it won't speed up their software development schedule, there's
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