You must not forget to get the media involved (c-net, zd-net, abc, cbs,
post, times, etc..).  Only then will it truly work.

Happy Holidays

Andrew R. Mitcham wrote:

I'm all for a shut down of my servers in protest. I think I have bitched
and moaned about the negligence of VAC for years... and every time I do,
someone says "Oh, they are working on it... be patient". 2 years
later... MORE hackers than pre-steam.

I participate in Steambans.com (I'm ranked #1 on there :D) which was
great for a while. But now that I hear people can get a new STEAMID so
easily, I have noticed return hackers... especially the ones that have
the name changing script.

While all of us stopping our servers for a day is a small percentage,
I'm pretty sure we are the owners of some of the BETTER pubs out there.
I know my CSDM server is hugely popular and its absence for a day would
cause a lot of people to wonder. Multiply that by everyone on this list
(OK, not everyone) it could cause a little publicity.

We should email fan sites (csnation.net, hlfallout.net, halflife2.net,
etc) and let them know that this event may occur and the reason why.

Seriously, SOMETHING needs to be done and I won't take "someone is
working on it" for an answer by someone who doesn't work for VALVe.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roc
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 10:25 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [hlds] When will the "nosteam" hacks be fixed?

IMO, this Friday is too soon, we need some organization and lots of
folks (web sites) to spread the word

Happy Holidays

K. Mike Bradley wrote:



It wont hurt and it mite send a message.
There has been a discussion for over 8 months now so that don't work


...


Show some solidarity admins!

DO SOMETHING TO BREAK THE IMPASSE!



-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roc
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 8:38 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [hlds] When will the "nosteam" hacks be fixed?

Thats just it, you won't hear a peep from them!  On a serious note, I


am


open to "anything" that would work.

Happy Holidays

J Marcus wrote:





Nah that is not the answer..it would just help the empty servers. Why


not


have a open discussion about it on this mailing list. Not looking to


go




into




anything specific but to have absolutely no response or participation


in




the




dialog from Valve just doesn't sit well with me. Or did I miss


something..


jefe

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roc
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 6:00 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [hlds] When will the "nosteam" hacks be fixed?

Mike, a day is not enough, lets say a week!

K. Mike Bradley wrote:







If you server admins really wanted to do something stop your servers


for






one






day ... Lets say this Friday.

See what Valve does then.









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