Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available
Because the servers don't really have that many players on it. These servers are misleading players, therefore malicious. Their goal is to have their servers show up higher when sorted by max players, and do no service to the players. Sure, I'm perfectly capable of playing the same game and showing 255/255 and being on top, but sadly I was born without the asshole gene. - voogru. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Somers Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 12:12 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald wrote: The warning would be far more useful if it warned about impossible servers, such as 34/36 etc servers, because those are actually somewhat malicious I'm curious as to why you think this is malicious, Care to expand? Shawn ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available
I'm banned for aimbotting on all voogru servers. your admins are born with the asshole/stupid gene at least Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald wrote: Because the servers don't really have that many players on it. These servers are misleading players, therefore malicious. Their goal is to have their servers show up higher when sorted by max players, and do no service to the players. Sure, I'm perfectly capable of playing the same game and showing 255/255 and being on top, but sadly I was born without the asshole gene. - voogru. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Somers Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 12:12 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald wrote: The warning would be far more useful if it warned about impossible servers, such as 34/36 etc servers, because those are actually somewhat malicious I'm curious as to why you think this is malicious, Care to expand? Shawn ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available
Perhaps due to this reason, if you go and sort the server by player count, they big servers won't be on top anymore. Servers do not get sorted anymore as they used to. I don't really care if it works or not but some random player at time when there is less players around might want to browser for a server that has players and would like to see the ones with players on top and not between the servers list like it does now. I do not support the over 32 slot servers myself either. I consider those just cheating players and thus, malicious. -ics 2.7.2010 9:23, Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald kirjoitti: Because the servers don't really have that many players on it. These servers are misleading players, therefore malicious. Their goal is to have their servers show up higher when sorted by max players, and do no service to the players. Sure, I'm perfectly capable of playing the same game and showing 255/255 and being on top, but sadly I was born without the asshole gene. - voogru. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Somers Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 12:12 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald wrote: The warning would be far more useful if it warned about impossible servers, such as 34/36 etc servers, because those are actually somewhat malicious I'm curious as to why you think this is malicious, Care to expand? Shawn ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available
You must have been born without the grammar gene. Seriously, 36 slot servers are created with the explicit intent to get players to join their servers BECAUSE they are 36 slots, whether sorted by player slots or seeming full most of the time as 35/36. On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 11:27 PM, mfan michael.fan...@gmail.com wrote: I'm banned for aimbotting on all voogru servers. your admins are born with the asshole/stupid gene at least Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald wrote: Because the servers don't really have that many players on it. These servers are misleading players, therefore malicious. Their goal is to have their servers show up higher when sorted by max players, and do no service to the players. Sure, I'm perfectly capable of playing the same game and showing 255/255 and being on top, but sadly I was born without the asshole gene. - voogru. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Somers Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 12:12 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald wrote: The warning would be far more useful if it warned about impossible servers, such as 34/36 etc servers, because those are actually somewhat malicious I'm curious as to why you think this is malicious, Care to expand? Shawn ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available
One of my admins is the owner of game deception, another one of my admins used to run united admins and all that anti-cheat good stuff. The deck is quite stacked against aimbotters on my server. They aren't exactly noobie powertrip admins. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: mfan michael.fan...@gmail.com Sender: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2010 23:27:25 To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing listhlds@list.valvesoftware.com Reply-To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available I'm banned for aimbotting on all voogru servers. your admins are born with the asshole/stupid gene at least Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald wrote: Because the servers don't really have that many players on it. These servers are misleading players, therefore malicious. Their goal is to have their servers show up higher when sorted by max players, and do no service to the players. Sure, I'm perfectly capable of playing the same game and showing 255/255 and being on top, but sadly I was born without the asshole gene. - voogru. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Somers Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 12:12 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald wrote: The warning would be far more useful if it warned about impossible servers, such as 34/36 etc servers, because those are actually somewhat malicious I'm curious as to why you think this is malicious, Care to expand? Shawn ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available
I think the new Warning is BS even if there is a disable button. I wonder how this will impact my 32 slot servers. On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 1:09 AM, Sebastian Staudt korak...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for finally starting to have real APIs. Funny thing I just started to integrate TF2 item support into Steam Condenser (http://koraktor.github.com/steam-condenser) yesterday. Best regards. 2010/7/2 k e mfnt...@gmail.com anyone else crashing at map change? On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 10:21 PM, Cevius cev...@gmail.com wrote: The warning has the option to never be displayed again. Only silly users will ever see the warning more than once. On 2 July 2010 12:17, M33CROB ad...@phoenixrisingtf2.com wrote: So this warning is displayed with any server that has more than 24 slots? On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 7:04 PM, Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald voo...@voogru.com wrote: Added a warning dialog that pops up to warn players joining games with more than the recommended number of players. 1. The server shows the max player count next to the number of players currently on the server. 2. The servers usually keep the increased_maxplayers tag when they have more than 24 players on the server. Players know how many players can be on the server when joining, they don't need yet another warning. The only thing that this may encourage is some malicious server ops to do the exact opposite of what they are doing now, show their servers as 23/24 when in fact they are 32/33. The warning would be far more useful if it warned about impossible servers, such as 34/36 etc servers, because those are actually somewhat malicious. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of DontWannaName! Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 9:27 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available They should just delist servers over 33 slots, they just run fake clients to fill the extra 4 slots. Stupid and deceiving. Shame on those server ops. On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 6:21 PM, M33CROB ad...@phoenixrisingtf2.com wrote: Does anyone know how the warning message works for players connecting to server with more than the recommended number? Is this all servers with more than 24 players, or just servers with more than 32. Is there some arbitrary number depending on the type of map? Thanks On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 6:08 PM, DontWannaName! ad...@topnotchclan.com wrote: Download was pain free. :) I downloaded before I could start my client, it said the servers were too busy. :P On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 5:53 PM, Saul Rennison saul.renni...@gmail.com wrote: /me passes cookie On Friday, July 2, 2010, Allan Button abut...@netaccess.ca wrote: Hmm. Looks like the Linux build and the windows build was different Cookie please. Sent from my mobile. On Jul 1, 2010, at 8:31 PM, Jason Ruymen jas...@valvesoftware.com wrote: A required update for Team Fortress 2 is now available. This is also an optional update for Counter-Strike: Source, since it fixes a bullet penetration problem on Linux servers. The specific changes are: Server Browser - Server browser now starts centered onscreen when it opens up. - Filter panel now starts expanded, instead of hidden. - Added a warning dialog that pops up to warn players joining games with more than the recommended number of players. - Added a max player count filter setting. - Renamed quick list checkbox from Show Map List to Simplified List. - Mouseover the checkbox now explains the simplified list in the status bar. - Quicklist now shows the number of other servers running each map. - Fixed a couple of bugs related to toggling the quick list, which were resulting in you needing to refresh again. Team Fortress 2 - Added missing earbud particles for DX8 players. - Added new ConVar mp_windifference_min to be used with mp_windifference. - Added Engineer to the list of classes that can equip Max's Pistol. - Rebuilt sound cache files that were out of date. - Source TV: - Fixed unlockable items not being visible. - Stopped player is carrying X messages looping forever. - Fixed overhealed particle effect
Re: [hlds] CS:S recommended anti-cheat plugins?
I don't disagree with that. The OP came asking how to secure his server running mani, the answer was that mani has been compromised or can be compromised, the OP was then given alternatives, and reasons to use the alternatives. At no point did I say he has to use it or that mani is bad/evil/whatever, merely that SM can be made to look and feel like mani, in case he was hesitant to switch... I stand by my statement about binding keys though... Sent from my iPhone On 02/07/2010, at 2:04 PM, ics i...@ics-base.net wrote: This petty and childish fight is unnecessary. People use what they want and what they like. -ics 2.7.2010 0:12, Joshua 'Dislexsick' Bost kirjoitti: The thing is, he's quite right here. Even the chat triggers can be changed readily, which seems to be the biggest hurdle for ex-Mani users. If your admins aren't confident with chat commands or console commands they can use sm_admin. If they can't bind a key to sm_admin get better admins Obnoxiously Sent from my iPhone On 02/07/2010, at 4:58 AM, msleepermslee...@ismsleeperwrong.com wrote: Everything Mani can do, SourceMod can do better. On Thu, 2010-07-01 at 15:25 -0400, Keeper wrote: Maybe not your plugin of choice, but it's served many server operators well over the years. I forgot about that SRCDS_Hardening. That's a good read for any server operator. Plus it provides links to solutions. -Original Message- From: msleeper [mailto:mslee...@ismsleeperwrong.com] Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 3:16 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] CS:S recommended anti-cheat plugins? I hate to tell you this buddy, but Mani stopped being the admin plugin of choice a couple years ago. What is it with the CS:S community and thinking that Mani is still useful? I recommend you go install Metamod + SourceMod, and stop running an ancient plugin on your servers. As for actual security stuff, you are pretty safe installing most of the plugins listed here: http://wiki.alliedmods.net/SRCDS_Hardening I say most because this article doesn't feature KAC (http://forums.alliedmods.net/forumdisplay.php?f=133), which is a killer security/anti-cheat plugin and has replaced some - but not all - of the functionality listed on that Wiki article. Welcome to the future. It's nice here. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] CS:S recommended anti-cheat plugins?
Just to clear something out, as Keeper said, the latest version of Mani-admin isn't vulnerable. Sourcemod is as vulnerable as Mani-admin is without additional plugins, such as D-FENS, against the exploits within the Source engine. -ics 2.7.2010 10:03, Joshua 'Dislexsick' Bost kirjoitti: I don't disagree with that. The OP came asking how to secure his server running mani, the answer was that mani has been compromised or can be compromised, the OP was then given alternatives, and reasons to use the alternatives. At no point did I say he has to use it or that mani is bad/evil/whatever, merely that SM can be made to look and feel like mani, in case he was hesitant to switch... I stand by my statement about binding keys though... Sent from my iPhone On 02/07/2010, at 2:04 PM, icsi...@ics-base.net wrote: This petty and childish fight is unnecessary. People use what they want and what they like. -ics 2.7.2010 0:12, Joshua 'Dislexsick' Bost kirjoitti: The thing is, he's quite right here. Even the chat triggers can be changed readily, which seems to be the biggest hurdle for ex-Mani users. If your admins aren't confident with chat commands or console commands they can use sm_admin. If they can't bind a key to sm_admin get better admins Obnoxiously Sent from my iPhone On 02/07/2010, at 4:58 AM, msleepermslee...@ismsleeperwrong.com wrote: Everything Mani can do, SourceMod can do better. On Thu, 2010-07-01 at 15:25 -0400, Keeper wrote: Maybe not your plugin of choice, but it's served many server operators well over the years. I forgot about that SRCDS_Hardening. That's a good read for any server operator. Plus it provides links to solutions. -Original Message- From: msleeper [mailto:mslee...@ismsleeperwrong.com] Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 3:16 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] CS:S recommended anti-cheat plugins? I hate to tell you this buddy, but Mani stopped being the admin plugin of choice a couple years ago. What is it with the CS:S community and thinking that Mani is still useful? I recommend you go install Metamod + SourceMod, and stop running an ancient plugin on your servers. As for actual security stuff, you are pretty safe installing most of the plugins listed here: http://wiki.alliedmods.net/SRCDS_Hardening I say most because this article doesn't feature KAC (http://forums.alliedmods.net/forumdisplay.php?f=133), which is a killer security/anti-cheat plugin and has replaced some - but not all - of the functionality listed on that Wiki article. Welcome to the future. It's nice here. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available
Yeah, shame to see it go but wouldn't mind seeing valves reasoning behind it. Send from your iPhone On 2 July 2010 05:12, Shawn Somers shawn.som...@gmail.com wrote: Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald wrote: The warning would be far more useful if it warned about impossible servers, such as 34/36 etc servers, because those are actually somewhat malicious I'm curious as to why you think this is malicious, Care to expand? Shawn ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available
3 absolution :-p On Jul 2, 2010 2:40 AM, voo...@voogru.com wrote: One of my admins is the owner of game deception, another one of my admins used to run united admins and all that anti-cheat good stuff. The deck is quite stacked against aimbotters on my server. They aren't exactly noobie powertrip admins. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: mfan michael.fan...@gmail.com Sender: hlds-boun...@list.valvesof... ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available
Lo bu Jll J v L Rvr T Sent from my iPhoneb On 2 juil. 2010, at 04:24, Cevius cev...@gmail.com wrote: On 2 July 2010 12:17, M33CROB ad...@phoenixrisingtf2.com wrote: So this warning is displayed with any server that has more than 24 slots? On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 7:04 PM, Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald voo...@voogru.com wrote: Added a warning dialog that pops up to warn players joining games with more than the recommended number of players. 1. The server shows the max player count next to the number of players currently on the server. 2. The servers usually keep the increased_maxplayers tag when they have more than 24 players on the server. Players know how many players can be on the server when joining, they don't need yet another warning. The only thing that this may encourage is some malicious server ops to do the exact opposite of what they are doing now, show their servers as 23/24 when in fact they are 32/33. The warning would be far more useful if it warned about impossible servers, such as 34/36 etc servers, because those are actually somewhat malicious. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of DontWannaName! Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 9:27 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available They should just delist servers over 33 slots, they just run fake clients to fill the extra 4 slots. Stupid and deceiving. Shame on those server ops. On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 6:21 PM, M33CROB ad...@phoenixrisingtf2.com wrote: Does anyone know how the warning message works for players connecting to server with more than the recommended number? Is this all servers with more than 24 players, or just servers with more than 32. Is there some arbitrary number depending on the type of map? Thanks On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 6:08 PM, DontWannaName! ad...@topnotchclan.com wrote: Download was pain free. :) I downloaded before I could start my client, it said the servers were too busy. :P On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 5:53 PM, Saul Rennison saul.renni...@gmail.com wrote: /me passes cookie On Friday, July 2, 2010, Allan Button abut...@netaccess.ca wrote: Hmm. Looks like the Linux build and the windows build was different Cookie please. Sent from my mobile. On Jul 1, 2010, at 8:31 PM, Jason Ruymen jas...@valvesoftware.com wrote: A required update for Team Fortress 2 is now available. This is also an optional update for Counter-Strike: Source, since it fixes a bullet penetration problem on Linux servers. The specific changes are: Server Browser - Server browser now starts centered onscreen when it opens up. - Filter panel now starts expanded, instead of hidden. - Added a warning dialog that pops up to warn players joining games with more than the recommended number of players. - Added a max player count filter setting. - Renamed quick list checkbox from Show Map List to Simplified List. - Mouseover the checkbox now explains the simplified list in the status bar. - Quicklist now shows the number of other servers running each map. - Fixed a couple of bugs related to toggling the quick list, which were resulting in you needing to refresh again. Team Fortress 2 - Added missing earbud particles for DX8 players. - Added new ConVar mp_windifference_min to be used with mp_windifference. - Added Engineer to the list of classes that can equip Max's Pistol. - Rebuilt sound cache files that were out of date. - Source TV: - Fixed unlockable items not being visible. - Stopped player is carrying X messages looping forever. - Fixed overhealed particle effect being visible on your current view target when in first-person spectator mode. - Changed in-game button colors to be less eyepoppingly bright. - Improved Steam Web APIs for TF2 items (see http://www.teamfortress.com/ ) Engine - Fixed some graphical issues when alt-tabbing during a game. - Fixed bullet penetration problems with Linux dedicated server. - Removed an exploit that allowed people to change their names to something other than their Steam profile name. Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- Thanks, - Saul. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available
Still hung over from Canada day celebrations? -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Loic Peron Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 7:58 AM To: Cevius Cc: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available Lo bu Jll J v L Rvr T Sent from my iPhoneb On 2 juil. 2010, at 04:24, Cevius cev...@gmail.com wrote: On 2 July 2010 12:17, M33CROB ad...@phoenixrisingtf2.com wrote: So this warning is displayed with any server that has more than 24 slots? On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 7:04 PM, Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald voo...@voogru.com wrote: Added a warning dialog that pops up to warn players joining games with more than the recommended number of players. 1. The server shows the max player count next to the number of players currently on the server. 2. The servers usually keep the increased_maxplayers tag when they have more than 24 players on the server. Players know how many players can be on the server when joining, they don't need yet another warning. The only thing that this may encourage is some malicious server ops to do the exact opposite of what they are doing now, show their servers as 23/24 when in fact they are 32/33. The warning would be far more useful if it warned about impossible servers, such as 34/36 etc servers, because those are actually somewhat malicious. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of DontWannaName! Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 9:27 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available They should just delist servers over 33 slots, they just run fake clients to fill the extra 4 slots. Stupid and deceiving. Shame on those server ops. On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 6:21 PM, M33CROB ad...@phoenixrisingtf2.com wrote: Does anyone know how the warning message works for players connecting to server with more than the recommended number? Is this all servers with more than 24 players, or just servers with more than 32. Is there some arbitrary number depending on the type of map? Thanks On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 6:08 PM, DontWannaName! ad...@topnotchclan.com wrote: Download was pain free. :) I downloaded before I could start my client, it said the servers were too busy. :P On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 5:53 PM, Saul Rennison saul.renni...@gmail.com wrote: /me passes cookie On Friday, July 2, 2010, Allan Button abut...@netaccess.ca wrote: Hmm. Looks like the Linux build and the windows build was different Cookie please. Sent from my mobile. On Jul 1, 2010, at 8:31 PM, Jason Ruymen jas...@valvesoftware.com wrote: A required update for Team Fortress 2 is now available. This is also an optional update for Counter-Strike: Source, since it fixes a bullet penetration problem on Linux servers. The specific changes are: Server Browser - Server browser now starts centered onscreen when it opens up. - Filter panel now starts expanded, instead of hidden. - Added a warning dialog that pops up to warn players joining games with more than the recommended number of players. - Added a max player count filter setting. - Renamed quick list checkbox from Show Map List to Simplified List. - Mouseover the checkbox now explains the simplified list in the status bar. - Quicklist now shows the number of other servers running each map. - Fixed a couple of bugs related to toggling the quick list, which were resulting in you needing to refresh again. Team Fortress 2 - Added missing earbud particles for DX8 players. - Added new ConVar mp_windifference_min to be used with mp_windifference. - Added Engineer to the list of classes that can equip Max's Pistol. - Rebuilt sound cache files that were out of date. - Source TV: - Fixed unlockable items not being visible. - Stopped player is carrying X messages looping forever. - Fixed overhealed particle effect being visible on your current view target when in first-person spectator mode. - Changed in-game button colors to be less eyepoppingly bright. - Improved Steam Web APIs for TF2 items (see http://www.teamfortress.com/ ) Engine - Fixed some graphical issues when alt-tabbing during a game. - Fixed bullet penetration problems with Linux dedicated server. - Removed an exploit that allowed people to change their names to something other than their Steam profile name. Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit:
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available
Eh? Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Allan Button abut...@netaccess.ca Sender: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 14:21:12 To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing listhlds@list.valvesoftware.com; Ceviuscev...@gmail.com Reply-To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available Still hung over from Canada day celebrations? -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Loic Peron Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 7:58 AM To: Cevius Cc: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available Lo bu Jll J v L Rvr T Sent from my iPhoneb On 2 juil. 2010, at 04:24, Cevius cev...@gmail.com wrote: On 2 July 2010 12:17, M33CROB ad...@phoenixrisingtf2.com wrote: So this warning is displayed with any server that has more than 24 slots? On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 7:04 PM, Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald voo...@voogru.com wrote: Added a warning dialog that pops up to warn players joining games with more than the recommended number of players. 1. The server shows the max player count next to the number of players currently on the server. 2. The servers usually keep the increased_maxplayers tag when they have more than 24 players on the server. Players know how many players can be on the server when joining, they don't need yet another warning. The only thing that this may encourage is some malicious server ops to do the exact opposite of what they are doing now, show their servers as 23/24 when in fact they are 32/33. The warning would be far more useful if it warned about impossible servers, such as 34/36 etc servers, because those are actually somewhat malicious. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of DontWannaName! Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 9:27 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available They should just delist servers over 33 slots, they just run fake clients to fill the extra 4 slots. Stupid and deceiving. Shame on those server ops. On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 6:21 PM, M33CROB ad...@phoenixrisingtf2.com wrote: Does anyone know how the warning message works for players connecting to server with more than the recommended number? Is this all servers with more than 24 players, or just servers with more than 32. Is there some arbitrary number depending on the type of map? Thanks On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 6:08 PM, DontWannaName! ad...@topnotchclan.com wrote: Download was pain free. :) I downloaded before I could start my client, it said the servers were too busy. :P On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 5:53 PM, Saul Rennison saul.renni...@gmail.com wrote: /me passes cookie On Friday, July 2, 2010, Allan Button abut...@netaccess.ca wrote: Hmm. Looks like the Linux build and the windows build was different Cookie please. Sent from my mobile. On Jul 1, 2010, at 8:31 PM, Jason Ruymen jas...@valvesoftware.com wrote: A required update for Team Fortress 2 is now available. This is also an optional update for Counter-Strike: Source, since it fixes a bullet penetration problem on Linux servers. The specific changes are: Server Browser - Server browser now starts centered onscreen when it opens up. - Filter panel now starts expanded, instead of hidden. - Added a warning dialog that pops up to warn players joining games with more than the recommended number of players. - Added a max player count filter setting. - Renamed quick list checkbox from Show Map List to Simplified List. - Mouseover the checkbox now explains the simplified list in the status bar. - Quicklist now shows the number of other servers running each map. - Fixed a couple of bugs related to toggling the quick list, which were resulting in you needing to refresh again. Team Fortress 2 - Added missing earbud particles for DX8 players. - Added new ConVar mp_windifference_min to be used with mp_windifference. - Added Engineer to the list of classes that can equip Max's Pistol. - Rebuilt sound cache files that were out of date. - Source TV: - Fixed unlockable items not being visible. - Stopped player is carrying X messages looping forever. - Fixed overhealed particle effect being visible on your current view target when in first-person spectator mode. - Changed in-game button colors to be less eyepoppingly bright. - Improved Steam Web APIs for TF2 items (see http://www.teamfortress.com/ ) Engine - Fixed some graphical issues when alt-tabbing during a game. - Fixed bullet penetration problems with Linux dedicated server. - Removed an exploit that allowed people to change their names to something
Re: [hlds] hlds Digest, Vol 29, Issue 8
Isn't that website the cause of pretty much every source hack in existance? On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 12:22 PM, hlds-requ...@list.valvesoftware.comwrote: On Jul 2, 2010 2:40 AM, voo...@voogru.com wrote: One of my admins is the owner of game deception, another one of my admins used to run united admins and all that anti-cheat good stuff. The deck is quite stacked against aimbotters on my server. They aren't exactly noobie powertrip admins. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] hlds Digest, Vol 29, Issue 8
It is only for 2 kinds of people -- those who would like to join a community of intellegent, innovative reverse engineers, and those who would like to how can i use this code? Will I must compiling it? (quote from today) Writing cheats is not very different from writing things serverside, the only difference is that you can do almost anything you ever wanted serverside. Also G-D also serves other games like the COD series, warrock, anti-cheat development, online fax, etc On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 7:23 PM, Steven Polley zellers.shi...@gmail.comwrote: Isn't that website the cause of pretty much every source hack in existance? On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 12:22 PM, hlds-requ...@list.valvesoftware.com wrote: On Jul 2, 2010 2:40 AM, voo...@voogru.com wrote: One of my admins is the owner of game deception, another one of my admins used to run united admins and all that anti-cheat good stuff. The deck is quite stacked against aimbotters on my server. They aren't exactly noobie powertrip admins. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] hlds Digest, Vol 29, Issue 8
Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer. ;) -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Steven Polley Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 7:24 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] hlds Digest, Vol 29, Issue 8 Isn't that website the cause of pretty much every source hack in existance? On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 12:22 PM, hlds-requ...@list.valvesoftware.comwrote: On Jul 2, 2010 2:40 AM, voo...@voogru.com wrote: One of my admins is the owner of game deception, another one of my admins used to run united admins and all that anti-cheat good stuff. The deck is quite stacked against aimbotters on my server. They aren't exactly noobie powertrip admins. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] hlds Digest, Vol 29, Issue 8
WTB SourceBans export file. On Fri, 2010-07-02 at 23:38 -0400, Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald wrote: Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer. ;) -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Steven Polley Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 7:24 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] hlds Digest, Vol 29, Issue 8 Isn't that website the cause of pretty much every source hack in existance? On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 12:22 PM, hlds-requ...@list.valvesoftware.comwrote: On Jul 2, 2010 2:40 AM, voo...@voogru.com wrote: One of my admins is the owner of game deception, another one of my admins used to run united admins and all that anti-cheat good stuff. The deck is quite stacked against aimbotters on my server. They aren't exactly noobie powertrip admins. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
