Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available
Seconding this. EventScript is garbage to begin with, anything to make terrible addons stop working is a positive change in my book. On Mon, 2011-02-28 at 21:47 -0500, Spencer 'Voogru' MacDonald wrote: Valve trashed EventScripts? THANK YOU! - Spencer. On 2/28/2011 7:56 PM, HooTs Administrator wrote: I'm just unhappy they trashed eventscripts to put a bandaid on an exploit that needs a hard fix. Get a real API valve. It's about time seriously. On Feb 28, 2011, at 7:52 PM, Dominik Friedrichsd...@forlix.org wrote: But its so much easier to just ignore any existing bugs and focus on what matters most: Money, Money, Money! On 2011/03/01 01:26, Emil Larsson wrote: Valve, while I don't mind cosmetical items or promo items, it probably would be appreciated to ship it together with a few other bug-fixes at the same time. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available
Event scripts is far from trash. Anything that gives us the opportunity to expand and utilize our servers as we see fit is a plus and anyone who has trouble with event scripts probably isn't doing it right. ;) -Original Message- From: msleeper Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 3:13 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available Seconding this. EventScript is garbage to begin with, anything to make terrible addons stop working is a positive change in my book. On Mon, 2011-02-28 at 21:47 -0500, Spencer 'Voogru' MacDonald wrote: Valve trashed EventScripts? THANK YOU! - Spencer. On 2/28/2011 7:56 PM, HooTs Administrator wrote: I'm just unhappy they trashed eventscripts to put a bandaid on an exploit that needs a hard fix. Get a real API valve. It's about time seriously. On Feb 28, 2011, at 7:52 PM, Dominik Friedrichsd...@forlix.org wrote: But its so much easier to just ignore any existing bugs and focus on what matters most: Money, Money, Money! On 2011/03/01 01:26, Emil Larsson wrote: Valve, while I don't mind cosmetical items or promo items, it probably would be appreciated to ship it together with a few other bug-fixes at the same time. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available
And I bet you still use Mani too, don't you? Stop living in 2005, there are better alternatives to the broken shitty addons you've been using. On Tue, 2011-03-01 at 14:36 -0500, eternal@gmail.com wrote: Event scripts is far from trash. Anything that gives us the opportunity to expand and utilize our servers as we see fit is a plus and anyone who has trouble with event scripts probably isn't doing it right. ;) -Original Message- From: msleeper Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 3:13 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available Seconding this. EventScript is garbage to begin with, anything to make terrible addons stop working is a positive change in my book. On Mon, 2011-02-28 at 21:47 -0500, Spencer 'Voogru' MacDonald wrote: Valve trashed EventScripts? THANK YOU! - Spencer. On 2/28/2011 7:56 PM, HooTs Administrator wrote: I'm just unhappy they trashed eventscripts to put a bandaid on an exploit that needs a hard fix. Get a real API valve. It's about time seriously. On Feb 28, 2011, at 7:52 PM, Dominik Friedrichsd...@forlix.org wrote: But its so much easier to just ignore any existing bugs and focus on what matters most: Money, Money, Money! On 2011/03/01 01:26, Emil Larsson wrote: Valve, while I don't mind cosmetical items or promo items, it probably would be appreciated to ship it together with a few other bug-fixes at the same time. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available
Wow, quite a response. Did you use all 2 brain cells to be so insulting? Come on man there is no need for that kind of attitude. We are all entitled to our opinions but we can also be respectful. -Original Message- From: msleeper Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 3:41 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available And I bet you still use Mani too, don't you? Stop living in 2005, there are better alternatives to the broken shitty addons you've been using. On Tue, 2011-03-01 at 14:36 -0500, eternal@gmail.com wrote: Event scripts is far from trash. Anything that gives us the opportunity to expand and utilize our servers as we see fit is a plus and anyone who has trouble with event scripts probably isn't doing it right. ;) -Original Message- From: msleeper Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 3:13 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available Seconding this. EventScript is garbage to begin with, anything to make terrible addons stop working is a positive change in my book. On Mon, 2011-02-28 at 21:47 -0500, Spencer 'Voogru' MacDonald wrote: Valve trashed EventScripts? THANK YOU! - Spencer. On 2/28/2011 7:56 PM, HooTs Administrator wrote: I'm just unhappy they trashed eventscripts to put a bandaid on an exploit that needs a hard fix. Get a real API valve. It's about time seriously. On Feb 28, 2011, at 7:52 PM, Dominik Friedrichsd...@forlix.org wrote: But its so much easier to just ignore any existing bugs and focus on what matters most: Money, Money, Money! On 2011/03/01 01:26, Emil Larsson wrote: Valve, while I don't mind cosmetical items or promo items, it probably would be appreciated to ship it together with a few other bug-fixes at the same time. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available
I'm sure he didnt mean it like that, the thing is when working with Valve related stuff, the anger keeps building up and you got to release it somewhere... On 2011/03/01 21:30, eternal@gmail.com wrote: Wow, quite a response. Did you use all 2 brain cells to be so insulting? Come on man there is no need for that kind of attitude. We are all entitled to our opinions but we can also be respectful. -Original Message- From: msleeper Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 3:41 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available And I bet you still use Mani too, don't you? Stop living in 2005, there are better alternatives to the broken shitty addons you've been using. On Tue, 2011-03-01 at 14:36 -0500, eternal@gmail.com wrote: Event scripts is far from trash. Anything that gives us the opportunity to expand and utilize our servers as we see fit is a plus and anyone who has trouble with event scripts probably isn't doing it right. ;) -Original Message- From: msleeper Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 3:13 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available Seconding this. EventScript is garbage to begin with, anything to make terrible addons stop working is a positive change in my book. On Mon, 2011-02-28 at 21:47 -0500, Spencer 'Voogru' MacDonald wrote: Valve trashed EventScripts? THANK YOU! - Spencer. On 2/28/2011 7:56 PM, HooTs Administrator wrote: I'm just unhappy they trashed eventscripts to put a bandaid on an exploit that needs a hard fix. Get a real API valve. It's about time seriously. On Feb 28, 2011, at 7:52 PM, Dominik Friedrichsd...@forlix.org wrote: But its so much easier to just ignore any existing bugs and focus on what matters most: Money, Money, Money! On 2011/03/01 01:26, Emil Larsson wrote: Valve, while I don't mind cosmetical items or promo items, it probably would be appreciated to ship it together with a few other bug-fixes at the same time. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available
Agreed. I must admit with the SPE extension for ES, it's far more powerful than SM in the terms that there's a massive standard library and all functions that would need an extension in itself in SM can all be done in Python via SPE. On Tuesday, 1 March 2011, eternal@gmail.com wrote: Wow, quite a response. Did you use all 2 brain cells to be so insulting? Come on man there is no need for that kind of attitude. We are all entitled to our opinions but we can also be respectful. -Original Message- From: msleeper Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 3:41 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available And I bet you still use Mani too, don't you? Stop living in 2005, there are better alternatives to the broken shitty addons you've been using. On Tue, 2011-03-01 at 14:36 -0500, eternal@gmail.com wrote: Event scripts is far from trash. Anything that gives us the opportunity to expand and utilize our servers as we see fit is a plus and anyone who has trouble with event scripts probably isn't doing it right. ;) -Original Message- From: msleeper Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 3:13 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available Seconding this. EventScript is garbage to begin with, anything to make terrible addons stop working is a positive change in my book. On Mon, 2011-02-28 at 21:47 -0500, Spencer 'Voogru' MacDonald wrote: Valve trashed EventScripts? THANK YOU! - Spencer. On 2/28/2011 7:56 PM, HooTs Administrator wrote: I'm just unhappy they trashed eventscripts to put a bandaid on an exploit that needs a hard fix. Get a real API valve. It's about time seriously. On Feb 28, 2011, at 7:52 PM, Dominik Friedrichsd...@forlix.org wrote: But its so much easier to just ignore any existing bugs and focus on what matters most: Money, Money, Money! On 2011/03/01 01:26, Emil Larsson wrote: Valve, while I don't mind cosmetical items or promo items, it probably would be appreciated to ship it together with a few other bug-fixes at the same time. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- Thanks, - Saul. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available
Looks like valve will take a look at it. To be honest, it's not hard to fix since they can just make their own ent_fire command if they wanted too. I have my own command that replicates ent_fire and adds a lot more arguments and it wasn't so hard. - Spencer. On 3/1/2011 2:36 PM, eternal@gmail.com wrote: Event scripts is far from trash. Anything that gives us the opportunity to expand and utilize our servers as we see fit is a plus and anyone who has trouble with event scripts probably isn't doing it right. ;) -Original Message- From: msleeper Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 3:13 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available Seconding this. EventScript is garbage to begin with, anything to make terrible addons stop working is a positive change in my book. On Mon, 2011-02-28 at 21:47 -0500, Spencer 'Voogru' MacDonald wrote: Valve trashed EventScripts? THANK YOU! - Spencer. On 2/28/2011 7:56 PM, HooTs Administrator wrote: I'm just unhappy they trashed eventscripts to put a bandaid on an exploit that needs a hard fix. Get a real API valve. It's about time seriously. On Feb 28, 2011, at 7:52 PM, Dominik Friedrichsd...@forlix.org wrote: But its so much easier to just ignore any existing bugs and focus on what matters most: Money, Money, Money! On 2011/03/01 01:26, Emil Larsson wrote: Valve, while I don't mind cosmetical items or promo items, it probably would be appreciated to ship it together with a few other bug-fixes at the same time. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available
SPE lets you signature scan for a function and call it. This means you can call *ANY* function that you can grab a signature for. http://wiki.alliedmods.net/SDKTools_(SourceMod_Scripting)#Calling_Functions On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 5:29 AM, Saul Rennison saul.renni...@gmail.comwrote: Agreed. I must admit with the SPE extension for ES, it's far more powerful than SM in the terms that there's a massive standard library and all functions that would need an extension in itself in SM can all be done in Python via SPE. On Tuesday, 1 March 2011, eternal@gmail.com wrote: Wow, quite a response. Did you use all 2 brain cells to be so insulting? Come on man there is no need for that kind of attitude. We are all entitled to our opinions but we can also be respectful. -Original Message- From: msleeper Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 3:41 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available And I bet you still use Mani too, don't you? Stop living in 2005, there are better alternatives to the broken shitty addons you've been using. On Tue, 2011-03-01 at 14:36 -0500, eternal@gmail.com wrote: Event scripts is far from trash. Anything that gives us the opportunity to expand and utilize our servers as we see fit is a plus and anyone who has trouble with event scripts probably isn't doing it right. ;) -Original Message- From: msleeper Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 3:13 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available Seconding this. EventScript is garbage to begin with, anything to make terrible addons stop working is a positive change in my book. On Mon, 2011-02-28 at 21:47 -0500, Spencer 'Voogru' MacDonald wrote: Valve trashed EventScripts? THANK YOU! - Spencer. On 2/28/2011 7:56 PM, HooTs Administrator wrote: I'm just unhappy they trashed eventscripts to put a bandaid on an exploit that needs a hard fix. Get a real API valve. It's about time seriously. On Feb 28, 2011, at 7:52 PM, Dominik Friedrichsd...@forlix.org wrote: But its so much easier to just ignore any existing bugs and focus on what matters most: Money, Money, Money! On 2011/03/01 01:26, Emil Larsson wrote: Valve, while I don't mind cosmetical items or promo items, it probably would be appreciated to ship it together with a few other bug-fixes at the same time. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- Thanks, - Saul. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available
If ES allowed you to Hook on the fly, that would be something. Otherwise it's still light years behind (Python is very heavy). On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 5:25 PM, Asher Baker asher...@gmail.com wrote: SPE lets you signature scan for a function and call it. This means you can call ANY function that you can grab a signature for. http://wiki.alliedmods.net/SDKTools_(SourceMod_Scripting)#Calling_Functions On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 5:29 AM, Saul Rennison saul.renni...@gmail.com wrote: Agreed. I must admit with the SPE extension for ES, it's far more powerful than SM in the terms that there's a massive standard library and all functions that would need an extension in itself in SM can all be done in Python via SPE. On Tuesday, 1 March 2011, eternal@gmail.com wrote: Wow, quite a response. Did you use all 2 brain cells to be so insulting? Come on man there is no need for that kind of attitude. We are all entitled to our opinions but we can also be respectful. -Original Message- From: msleeper Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 3:41 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available And I bet you still use Mani too, don't you? Stop living in 2005, there are better alternatives to the broken shitty addons you've been using. On Tue, 2011-03-01 at 14:36 -0500, eternal@gmail.com wrote: Event scripts is far from trash. Anything that gives us the opportunity to expand and utilize our servers as we see fit is a plus and anyone who has trouble with event scripts probably isn't doing it right. ;) -Original Message- From: msleeper Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 3:13 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available Seconding this. EventScript is garbage to begin with, anything to make terrible addons stop working is a positive change in my book. On Mon, 2011-02-28 at 21:47 -0500, Spencer 'Voogru' MacDonald wrote: Valve trashed EventScripts? THANK YOU! - Spencer. On 2/28/2011 7:56 PM, HooTs Administrator wrote: I'm just unhappy they trashed eventscripts to put a bandaid on an exploit that needs a hard fix. Get a real API valve. It's about time seriously. On Feb 28, 2011, at 7:52 PM, Dominik Friedrichsd...@forlix.org wrote: But its so much easier to just ignore any existing bugs and focus on what matters most: Money, Money, Money! On 2011/03/01 01:26, Emil Larsson wrote: Valve, while I don't mind cosmetical items or promo items, it probably would be appreciated to ship it together with a few other bug-fixes at the same time. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- Thanks, - Saul. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
