Re: [hlds] Mani site down / DNS problem
This is why some people just make their own admin tools. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of ics Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 6:45 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Mani site down / DNS problem If we really go back to 2003 (or let's say 2004 when cs source and mani-admin came out), there was no other options back then than Mani-admin and BeetlesMod. Not for like over a year. There was metamod and some talks about rewriting it completely which i think happened later on and thus Sourcemod is here now. Mani-admin was a good plugin, very user friendly (not so install friendly but everyone got it running who really wanted it), had multiple things to make game fun. Votes, punishments, weapon restrictions, you know what else. Maybe it's shit in some people eyes but it was there when there was nothing else and still is a fairly good plugin. Elitists seem to diss it the most. Really, it was free, you don't have to use it if you dislike it.. Have some respect for the work of others? Also remember it was made by just one guy. Sourcemod has now like 50 people behind it who make smx plugins into it so naturally it develops more and things get fixed quickly. If really Sourcemod is these days the one and only and all server owners should move into it, maybe Sourcemod lacks something that Mani-admin has.No, not the exploits. 1.2T fixed those afaik. If there is one, it doesn't work with sv_cheats 0. -ics 23.2.2010 5:47, msleeper kirjoitti: And SourceMod has been out for how long? And has done all of that and more from the beginning, right? 2003 called and wants it's server administration software back. Stick with SM, nobody worth their salt uses Mani. On Mon, 2010-02-22 at 22:43 -0500, Keeper wrote: It's been for a while. The next version ( 2.0 ) we are working on is going to be more modular, and will be game based instead of one plugin fits all. It will work for L4D2 down to HL2MP. Keeper -Original Message- From: Matthew Gottlieb [mailto:matthew.j.gottl...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 7:07 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Mani site down / DNS problem Since when is Mani Open Source? My main issues with Mani has always been that it was closed source and was rarely updated. ~ Matt ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Mani site down / DNS problem
And for those of us who wrote their own plugins, we have helped Mani and SourceMod become better via sharing. I know Mani and the SourceMM group shared a lot in the past. In the end, choice is important. These tools help server operators keep their servers running. Some can add fun to the game, but in the end, if it doesn't help groups/clans/individuals operate their servers, it won't get used. And BTW, 2003 was a good year :) Keeper -Original Message- From: Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald [mailto:voo...@voogru.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 7:37 AM To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list' Subject: Re: [hlds] Mani site down / DNS problem This is why some people just make their own admin tools. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Mani site down / DNS problem
Stats would prove otherwise. Doing a quick check on game-monitor.com shows MAP being used on almost twice the amount of servers compared to SM. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of msleeper Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 8:47 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Mani site down / DNS problem And SourceMod has been out for how long? And has done all of that and more from the beginning, right? 2003 called and wants it's server administration software back. Stick with SM, nobody worth their salt uses Mani. On Mon, 2010-02-22 at 22:43 -0500, Keeper wrote: It's been for a while. The next version ( 2.0 ) we are working on is going to be more modular, and will be game based instead of one plugin fits all. It will work for L4D2 down to HL2MP. Keeper -Original Message- From: Matthew Gottlieb [mailto:matthew.j.gottl...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 7:07 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Mani site down / DNS problem Since when is Mani Open Source? My main issues with Mani has always been that it was closed source and was rarely updated. ~ Matt ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2704 - Release Date: 02/22/10 12:34:00 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Mani site down / DNS problem
Firstly can I commend Mani for what he provided in the early years of admin and games plugins, we have used all of the known mani/beetles/SM but we had issues with mani that eventually forced us to put all eggs in one basket and go with SM. Mani at the end of the day is for some and not others and visa versa for SM Beetles. With that said we are happy with the diversity of SM and will stay using SM for the see able future. And with that Simiancage commends all coders that have progressed gaming Admining what it is today. Its just a shame that there now coding games for consoles and porting to the pc bring back the cs16 days! D3v -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Chris Brunelle Sent: 23 February 2010 14:45 To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list' Subject: Re: [hlds] Mani site down / DNS problem Stats would prove otherwise. Doing a quick check on game-monitor.com shows MAP being used on almost twice the amount of servers compared to SM. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of msleeper Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 8:47 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Mani site down / DNS problem And SourceMod has been out for how long? And has done all of that and more from the beginning, right? 2003 called and wants it's server administration software back. Stick with SM, nobody worth their salt uses Mani. On Mon, 2010-02-22 at 22:43 -0500, Keeper wrote: It's been for a while. The next version ( 2.0 ) we are working on is going to be more modular, and will be game based instead of one plugin fits all. It will work for L4D2 down to HL2MP. Keeper -Original Message- From: Matthew Gottlieb [mailto:matthew.j.gottl...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 7:07 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Mani site down / DNS problem Since when is Mani Open Source? My main issues with Mani has always been that it was closed source and was rarely updated. ~ Matt ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2704 - Release Date: 02/22/10 12:34:00 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Mani site down / DNS problem
At last speaks the voice of reason. -- From: Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald voo...@voogru.com Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 12:36 PM To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list' hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Mani site down / DNS problem This is why some people just make their own admin tools. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of ics Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 6:45 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Mani site down / DNS problem If we really go back to 2003 (or let's say 2004 when cs source and mani-admin came out), there was no other options back then than Mani-admin and BeetlesMod. Not for like over a year. There was metamod and some talks about rewriting it completely which i think happened later on and thus Sourcemod is here now. Mani-admin was a good plugin, very user friendly (not so install friendly but everyone got it running who really wanted it), had multiple things to make game fun. Votes, punishments, weapon restrictions, you know what else. Maybe it's shit in some people eyes but it was there when there was nothing else and still is a fairly good plugin. Elitists seem to diss it the most. Really, it was free, you don't have to use it if you dislike it.. Have some respect for the work of others? Also remember it was made by just one guy. Sourcemod has now like 50 people behind it who make smx plugins into it so naturally it develops more and things get fixed quickly. If really Sourcemod is these days the one and only and all server owners should move into it, maybe Sourcemod lacks something that Mani-admin has.No, not the exploits. 1.2T fixed those afaik. If there is one, it doesn't work with sv_cheats 0. -ics 23.2.2010 5:47, msleeper kirjoitti: And SourceMod has been out for how long? And has done all of that and more from the beginning, right? 2003 called and wants it's server administration software back. Stick with SM, nobody worth their salt uses Mani. On Mon, 2010-02-22 at 22:43 -0500, Keeper wrote: It's been for a while. The next version ( 2.0 ) we are working on is going to be more modular, and will be game based instead of one plugin fits all. It will work for L4D2 down to HL2MP. Keeper -Original Message- From: Matthew Gottlieb [mailto:matthew.j.gottl...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 7:07 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Mani site down / DNS problem Since when is Mani Open Source? My main issues with Mani has always been that it was closed source and was rarely updated. ~ Matt ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4890 (20100223) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4890 (20100223) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Mani site down / DNS problem
Feel free to file a bug report if you think this functionality should be changed. It's a trivial modification. Matt Woodrow AlliedModders LLC On 23/02/10 1:01 PM, Kyle Sanderson wrote: Sorry for the terrible phrasing, the only downside to SourceMod is the lack of menu scaling. Besides that, it's 100% open source (I know Mani is, however it is no where near as modular or customizable) and it's simplistic to add features yourself. What I'm talking about: http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/846/smmenu.jpg http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/846/smmenu.jpg Cheers, Kyle. On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Charles Mabbottcmabb...@verizon.netwrote: RCON Lock, Kigen's and a few other plugins check and handle this exploit. Any plugin can be dropped into a client so it's not a 'sourcemod' issue or a 'mani' issue but is simply idiot users trying to cheat the system. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Matt Hoffman Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 2:33 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Mani site down / DNS problem Isn't there also an issue in SM with clients running SM and overriding server variables? On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 11:26 AM, Michael Krasnowmnk...@gmail.com wrote: what matt said is correct there is a vulnerability that allows rcon access. and kyle what do you mean? Mike On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 2:17 PM, Matthew Gottlieb matthew.j.gottl...@gmail.com wrote: The problem with Mani, as I've been told, is the security issues. ~Matt On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 12:50 PM, Kyle Sandersonkyle.l...@gmail.com wrote: My only issue with SourceMod is the fact that the menu's don't exactly fit to the number of options (There can be tons of white space which makes the mod look not that professional in my opinion. Besides that, ditch Mani entirely (His site is back up now). Kyle. On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 5:24 AM, Keeperhl2li...@afksoftware.com wrote: XFactorServers was doing some website moving. We are back up and running. As far as noobish, well to each their own. Mani did a great job for a long time keeping his plugin going with little or no contributions. SourceMod has a great team of developers behind them, so of course their stuff is of course up to date and more diverse. We now have a team in place and are moving forward on the next MAP. Will it be better than some options of SourceMod? Dunno. But it will give people a choice, and in the end that's best IMO. Keeper ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Mani site down / DNS problem
Sorry about that guys , site should be back up. Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 22:03:46 -0500 From: gizmokid2...@gmail.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Mani site down / DNS problem Doing some digging it looks like the nameservers (ns1/ns2.xfactorservers.com) are failing right now, even though their site is up, but of course, their site use ns1-ns4.firehost.com. So, if I had to give you a reason their site was down, xfactor server's nameservers are failing right now. Probably a temporary issue and will be fixed with the starting of tomorrow's workweek. -Michael -- Original Message --- Subject: Re: [hlds] Mani site down / DNS problem From: Cc2iscooL cc2isc...@gmail.com To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Date: 2/21/2010 9:56 PM EST I didn't even read the letters VPS on there. Depends on the provider really and the resources provided, but no, it doesn't run that great. Cheaper to rent really. On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Matthew Gottlieb matthew.j.gottl...@gmail.com wrote: 1) Mani is a BAD IDEA. 2) VPS is a VERY BAD IDEA. Srcds doesn't run well on virtual servers, from what I've read. ~ Matt srcds.com On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 8:15 PM, DontWannaName!ad...@topnotchclan.com wrote: You can download it from SteamFriends http://www.steamfriends.com/forums/index.php?autocom=downloadsshowfile=12 On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Cc2iscooLcc2isc...@gmail.com wrote: Noobish? Sourcemod has virtually the same look-alike menus, and with plugins you can do the exact same thing (plus a ton more) than mani, plus...when an update comes out you don't have to wait for someone to update the binaries. :) On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 8:05 PM, Jake Eisenman ad...@oneskylitnight.org wrote: TBH, my admins are too noobish to move to Sourcemod. Too used to it I guess :/ I've been trying to work around with the supers so we can setup sourcebans. Plus one of my coders made some modifications to funmenu. Hopefully we can dump it (mani) on the plain server, but Hosties uses some parts of mani to do it's work. Until i can code around that, it has to be there. Kornelijus Survila wrote: Yeah, why would you even use Mani? On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Jeff Sugarjeffsu...@gmail.com wrote: Better response: Why would you possibly use Mani? :/ On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Ryan Katkov ryan.kat...@gmail.com wrote: http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Jake Eisenman ad...@oneskylitnight.org wrote: Seems Mani's site is down or with DNS problems. Tried GoogleDNS, OpenDNS and Anonymouse with either a timeout, redirect to ask.com, or it can't find the IP address Can someone post the IP or confirm the site is down? I just got a new VPS for my clan and now we can't even put Mani on it, lol. Thanks, Jake ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit
Re: [hlds] Mani site down / DNS problem
XFactorServers was doing some website moving. We are back up and running. As far as noobish, well to each their own. Mani did a great job for a long time keeping his plugin going with little or no contributions. SourceMod has a great team of developers behind them, so of course their stuff is of course up to date and more diverse. We now have a team in place and are moving forward on the next MAP. Will it be better than some options of SourceMod? Dunno. But it will give people a choice, and in the end that's best IMO. Keeper ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Mani site down / DNS problem
The problem with Mani, as I've been told, is the security issues. ~Matt On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 12:50 PM, Kyle Sanderson kyle.l...@gmail.com wrote: My only issue with SourceMod is the fact that the menu's don't exactly fit to the number of options (There can be tons of white space which makes the mod look not that professional in my opinion. Besides that, ditch Mani entirely (His site is back up now). Kyle. On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 5:24 AM, Keeper hl2li...@afksoftware.com wrote: XFactorServers was doing some website moving. We are back up and running. As far as noobish, well to each their own. Mani did a great job for a long time keeping his plugin going with little or no contributions. SourceMod has a great team of developers behind them, so of course their stuff is of course up to date and more diverse. We now have a team in place and are moving forward on the next MAP. Will it be better than some options of SourceMod? Dunno. But it will give people a choice, and in the end that's best IMO. Keeper ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Mani site down / DNS problem
what matt said is correct there is a vulnerability that allows rcon access. and kyle what do you mean? Mike On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 2:17 PM, Matthew Gottlieb matthew.j.gottl...@gmail.com wrote: The problem with Mani, as I've been told, is the security issues. ~Matt On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 12:50 PM, Kyle Sanderson kyle.l...@gmail.com wrote: My only issue with SourceMod is the fact that the menu's don't exactly fit to the number of options (There can be tons of white space which makes the mod look not that professional in my opinion. Besides that, ditch Mani entirely (His site is back up now). Kyle. On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 5:24 AM, Keeper hl2li...@afksoftware.com wrote: XFactorServers was doing some website moving. We are back up and running. As far as noobish, well to each their own. Mani did a great job for a long time keeping his plugin going with little or no contributions. SourceMod has a great team of developers behind them, so of course their stuff is of course up to date and more diverse. We now have a team in place and are moving forward on the next MAP. Will it be better than some options of SourceMod? Dunno. But it will give people a choice, and in the end that's best IMO. Keeper ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Mani site down / DNS problem
Isn't there also an issue in SM with clients running SM and overriding server variables? On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 11:26 AM, Michael Krasnow mnk...@gmail.com wrote: what matt said is correct there is a vulnerability that allows rcon access. and kyle what do you mean? Mike On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 2:17 PM, Matthew Gottlieb matthew.j.gottl...@gmail.com wrote: The problem with Mani, as I've been told, is the security issues. ~Matt On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 12:50 PM, Kyle Sanderson kyle.l...@gmail.com wrote: My only issue with SourceMod is the fact that the menu's don't exactly fit to the number of options (There can be tons of white space which makes the mod look not that professional in my opinion. Besides that, ditch Mani entirely (His site is back up now). Kyle. On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 5:24 AM, Keeper hl2li...@afksoftware.com wrote: XFactorServers was doing some website moving. We are back up and running. As far as noobish, well to each their own. Mani did a great job for a long time keeping his plugin going with little or no contributions. SourceMod has a great team of developers behind them, so of course their stuff is of course up to date and more diverse. We now have a team in place and are moving forward on the next MAP. Will it be better than some options of SourceMod? Dunno. But it will give people a choice, and in the end that's best IMO. Keeper ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Mani site down / DNS problem
No there is not. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Matt Hoffman Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 2:33 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Mani site down / DNS problem Isn't there also an issue in SM with clients running SM and overriding server variables? On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 11:26 AM, Michael Krasnow mnk...@gmail.com wrote: what matt said is correct there is a vulnerability that allows rcon access. and kyle what do you mean? Mike On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 2:17 PM, Matthew Gottlieb matthew.j.gottl...@gmail.com wrote: The problem with Mani, as I've been told, is the security issues. ~Matt On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 12:50 PM, Kyle Sanderson kyle.l...@gmail.com wrote: My only issue with SourceMod is the fact that the menu's don't exactly fit to the number of options (There can be tons of white space which makes the mod look not that professional in my opinion. Besides that, ditch Mani entirely (His site is back up now). Kyle. On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 5:24 AM, Keeper hl2li...@afksoftware.com wrote: XFactorServers was doing some website moving. We are back up and running. As far as noobish, well to each their own. Mani did a great job for a long time keeping his plugin going with little or no contributions. SourceMod has a great team of developers behind them, so of course their stuff is of course up to date and more diverse. We now have a team in place and are moving forward on the next MAP. Will it be better than some options of SourceMod? Dunno. But it will give people a choice, and in the end that's best IMO. Keeper ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Mani site down / DNS problem
Nothing more than you can do with most other server plugins, including Mani. On 2/22/2010 2:33 PM, Matt Hoffman wrote: Isn't there also an issue in SM with clients running SM and overriding server variables? On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 11:26 AM, Michael Krasnowmnk...@gmail.com wrote: what matt said is correct there is a vulnerability that allows rcon access. and kyle what do you mean? Mike On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 2:17 PM, Matthew Gottlieb matthew.j.gottl...@gmail.com wrote: The problem with Mani, as I've been told, is the security issues. ~Matt On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 12:50 PM, Kyle Sandersonkyle.l...@gmail.com wrote: My only issue with SourceMod is the fact that the menu's don't exactly fit to the number of options (There can be tons of white space which makes the mod look not that professional in my opinion. Besides that, ditch Mani entirely (His site is back up now). Kyle. On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 5:24 AM, Keeperhl2li...@afksoftware.com wrote: XFactorServers was doing some website moving. We are back up and running. As far as noobish, well to each their own. Mani did a great job for a long time keeping his plugin going with little or no contributions. SourceMod has a great team of developers behind them, so of course their stuff is of course up to date and more diverse. We now have a team in place and are moving forward on the next MAP. Will it be better than some options of SourceMod? Dunno. But it will give people a choice, and in the end that's best IMO. Keeper ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Mani site down / DNS problem
My only issue with SourceMod is the fact that the menu's don't exactly fit to the number of options (There can be tons of white space which makes the mod look not that professional in my opinion. Besides that, ditch Mani entirely (His site is back up now). Kyle. On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 5:24 AM, Keeper hl2li...@afksoftware.com wrote: XFactorServers was doing some website moving. We are back up and running. As far as noobish, well to each their own. Mani did a great job for a long time keeping his plugin going with little or no contributions. SourceMod has a great team of developers behind them, so of course their stuff is of course up to date and more diverse. We now have a team in place and are moving forward on the next MAP. Will it be better than some options of SourceMod? Dunno. But it will give people a choice, and in the end that's best IMO. Keeper ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Mani site down / DNS problem
RCON Lock, Kigen's and a few other plugins check and handle this exploit. Any plugin can be dropped into a client so it's not a 'sourcemod' issue or a 'mani' issue but is simply idiot users trying to cheat the system. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Matt Hoffman Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 2:33 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Mani site down / DNS problem Isn't there also an issue in SM with clients running SM and overriding server variables? On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 11:26 AM, Michael Krasnow mnk...@gmail.com wrote: what matt said is correct there is a vulnerability that allows rcon access. and kyle what do you mean? Mike On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 2:17 PM, Matthew Gottlieb matthew.j.gottl...@gmail.com wrote: The problem with Mani, as I've been told, is the security issues. ~Matt On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 12:50 PM, Kyle Sanderson kyle.l...@gmail.com wrote: My only issue with SourceMod is the fact that the menu's don't exactly fit to the number of options (There can be tons of white space which makes the mod look not that professional in my opinion. Besides that, ditch Mani entirely (His site is back up now). Kyle. On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 5:24 AM, Keeper hl2li...@afksoftware.com wrote: XFactorServers was doing some website moving. We are back up and running. As far as noobish, well to each their own. Mani did a great job for a long time keeping his plugin going with little or no contributions. SourceMod has a great team of developers behind them, so of course their stuff is of course up to date and more diverse. We now have a team in place and are moving forward on the next MAP. Will it be better than some options of SourceMod? Dunno. But it will give people a choice, and in the end that's best IMO. Keeper ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Mani site down / DNS problem
http://code.google.com/p/maniadminplugin/ Normal0falsefalsefalseEN-USX-NONEX-NONE -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Matthew Gottlieb Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 7:07 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Mani site down / DNS problem Since when is Mani Open Source? My main issues with Mani has always been that it was closed source and was rarely updated. ~ Matt ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Mani site down / DNS problem
While I'm an avowed SourceMod fan, it's good to see that MAP is Open Source and still going. Good job in taking an old project and making it better... --Dog TheVille.Org - Sent from my Atari 2600 - ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
[hlds] Mani site down / DNS problem
Seems Mani's site is down or with DNS problems. Tried GoogleDNS, OpenDNS and Anonymouse with either a timeout, redirect to ask.com, or it can't find the IP address Can someone post the IP or confirm the site is down? I just got a new VPS for my clan and now we can't even put Mani on it, lol. Thanks, Jake ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Mani site down / DNS problem
http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Jake Eisenman ad...@oneskylitnight.org wrote: Seems Mani's site is down or with DNS problems. Tried GoogleDNS, OpenDNS and Anonymouse with either a timeout, redirect to ask.com, or it can't find the IP address Can someone post the IP or confirm the site is down? I just got a new VPS for my clan and now we can't even put Mani on it, lol. Thanks, Jake ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Mani site down / DNS problem
Better response: Why would you possibly use Mani? :/ On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Ryan Katkov ryan.kat...@gmail.com wrote: http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Jake Eisenman ad...@oneskylitnight.org wrote: Seems Mani's site is down or with DNS problems. Tried GoogleDNS, OpenDNS and Anonymouse with either a timeout, redirect to ask.com, or it can't find the IP address Can someone post the IP or confirm the site is down? I just got a new VPS for my clan and now we can't even put Mani on it, lol. Thanks, Jake ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Mani site down / DNS problem
OpenDNS says, -- Nameservers for www.mani-admin-plugin.com: ns1.xfactorservers.com returned (SERVFAIL) ns2.xfactorservers.com returned (SERVFAIL) -- All the best, -S -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Katkov Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 8:22 PM To: ad...@oneskylitnight.org; Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Mani site down / DNS problem http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Jake Eisenman ad...@oneskylitnight.org wrote: Seems Mani's site is down or with DNS problems. Tried GoogleDNS, OpenDNS and Anonymouse with either a timeout, redirect to ask.com, or it can't find the IP address Can someone post the IP or confirm the site is down? I just got a new VPS for my clan and now we can't even put Mani on it, lol. Thanks, Jake ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Mani site down / DNS problem
Yeah, why would you even use Mani? On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Jeff Sugar jeffsu...@gmail.com wrote: Better response: Why would you possibly use Mani? :/ On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Ryan Katkov ryan.kat...@gmail.com wrote: http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Jake Eisenman ad...@oneskylitnight.org wrote: Seems Mani's site is down or with DNS problems. Tried GoogleDNS, OpenDNS and Anonymouse with either a timeout, redirect to ask.com, or it can't find the IP address Can someone post the IP or confirm the site is down? I just got a new VPS for my clan and now we can't even put Mani on it, lol. Thanks, Jake ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Mani site down / DNS problem
TBH, my admins are too noobish to move to Sourcemod. Too used to it I guess :/ I've been trying to work around with the supers so we can setup sourcebans. Plus one of my coders made some modifications to funmenu. Hopefully we can dump it (mani) on the plain server, but Hosties uses some parts of mani to do it's work. Until i can code around that, it has to be there. Kornelijus Survila wrote: Yeah, why would you even use Mani? On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Jeff Sugar jeffsu...@gmail.com wrote: Better response: Why would you possibly use Mani? :/ On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Ryan Katkov ryan.kat...@gmail.com wrote: http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Jake Eisenman ad...@oneskylitnight.org wrote: Seems Mani's site is down or with DNS problems. Tried GoogleDNS, OpenDNS and Anonymouse with either a timeout, redirect to ask.com, or it can't find the IP address Can someone post the IP or confirm the site is down? I just got a new VPS for my clan and now we can't even put Mani on it, lol. Thanks, Jake ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Mani site down / DNS problem
Noobish? Sourcemod has virtually the same look-alike menus, and with plugins you can do the exact same thing (plus a ton more) than mani, plus...when an update comes out you don't have to wait for someone to update the binaries. :) On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 8:05 PM, Jake Eisenman ad...@oneskylitnight.orgwrote: TBH, my admins are too noobish to move to Sourcemod. Too used to it I guess :/ I've been trying to work around with the supers so we can setup sourcebans. Plus one of my coders made some modifications to funmenu. Hopefully we can dump it (mani) on the plain server, but Hosties uses some parts of mani to do it's work. Until i can code around that, it has to be there. Kornelijus Survila wrote: Yeah, why would you even use Mani? On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Jeff Sugar jeffsu...@gmail.com wrote: Better response: Why would you possibly use Mani? :/ On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Ryan Katkov ryan.kat...@gmail.com wrote: http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Jake Eisenman ad...@oneskylitnight.org wrote: Seems Mani's site is down or with DNS problems. Tried GoogleDNS, OpenDNS and Anonymouse with either a timeout, redirect to ask.com, or it can't find the IP address Can someone post the IP or confirm the site is down? I just got a new VPS for my clan and now we can't even put Mani on it, lol. Thanks, Jake ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Mani site down / DNS problem
What? Sourcemod is a million times more intuitive and easier to manage. I literally cannot think of one reason to use mani, especially with the various issues it has just from being so goddamn outdated. If you would like some personal help switching over to sourcemod, feel free to send me a private email or join #hlserveradmins on irc.gamesurge.net and I'd be glad to give you a hand. Also, there's definitely a way to port over your funcommands plugin. I can likely find you a proper replacement that is as good, or better, than everything you are running on your mani install right now On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Jake Eisenman ad...@oneskylitnight.orgwrote: TBH, my admins are too noobish to move to Sourcemod. Too used to it I guess :/ I've been trying to work around with the supers so we can setup sourcebans. Plus one of my coders made some modifications to funmenu. Hopefully we can dump it (mani) on the plain server, but Hosties uses some parts of mani to do it's work. Until i can code around that, it has to be there. Kornelijus Survila wrote: Yeah, why would you even use Mani? On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Jeff Sugar jeffsu...@gmail.com wrote: Better response: Why would you possibly use Mani? :/ On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Ryan Katkov ryan.kat...@gmail.com wrote: http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Jake Eisenman ad...@oneskylitnight.org wrote: Seems Mani's site is down or with DNS problems. Tried GoogleDNS, OpenDNS and Anonymouse with either a timeout, redirect to ask.com, or it can't find the IP address Can someone post the IP or confirm the site is down? I just got a new VPS for my clan and now we can't even put Mani on it, lol. Thanks, Jake ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Mani site down / DNS problem
You can download it from SteamFriends http://www.steamfriends.com/forums/index.php?autocom=downloadsshowfile=12 On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Cc2iscooL cc2isc...@gmail.com wrote: Noobish? Sourcemod has virtually the same look-alike menus, and with plugins you can do the exact same thing (plus a ton more) than mani, plus...when an update comes out you don't have to wait for someone to update the binaries. :) On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 8:05 PM, Jake Eisenman ad...@oneskylitnight.org wrote: TBH, my admins are too noobish to move to Sourcemod. Too used to it I guess :/ I've been trying to work around with the supers so we can setup sourcebans. Plus one of my coders made some modifications to funmenu. Hopefully we can dump it (mani) on the plain server, but Hosties uses some parts of mani to do it's work. Until i can code around that, it has to be there. Kornelijus Survila wrote: Yeah, why would you even use Mani? On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Jeff Sugar jeffsu...@gmail.com wrote: Better response: Why would you possibly use Mani? :/ On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Ryan Katkov ryan.kat...@gmail.com wrote: http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Jake Eisenman ad...@oneskylitnight.org wrote: Seems Mani's site is down or with DNS problems. Tried GoogleDNS, OpenDNS and Anonymouse with either a timeout, redirect to ask.com, or it can't find the IP address Can someone post the IP or confirm the site is down? I just got a new VPS for my clan and now we can't even put Mani on it, lol. Thanks, Jake ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Mani site down / DNS problem
1) Mani is a BAD IDEA. 2) VPS is a VERY BAD IDEA. Srcds doesn't run well on virtual servers, from what I've read. ~ Matt srcds.com On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 8:15 PM, DontWannaName! ad...@topnotchclan.com wrote: You can download it from SteamFriends http://www.steamfriends.com/forums/index.php?autocom=downloadsshowfile=12 On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Cc2iscooL cc2isc...@gmail.com wrote: Noobish? Sourcemod has virtually the same look-alike menus, and with plugins you can do the exact same thing (plus a ton more) than mani, plus...when an update comes out you don't have to wait for someone to update the binaries. :) On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 8:05 PM, Jake Eisenman ad...@oneskylitnight.org wrote: TBH, my admins are too noobish to move to Sourcemod. Too used to it I guess :/ I've been trying to work around with the supers so we can setup sourcebans. Plus one of my coders made some modifications to funmenu. Hopefully we can dump it (mani) on the plain server, but Hosties uses some parts of mani to do it's work. Until i can code around that, it has to be there. Kornelijus Survila wrote: Yeah, why would you even use Mani? On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Jeff Sugar jeffsu...@gmail.com wrote: Better response: Why would you possibly use Mani? :/ On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Ryan Katkov ryan.kat...@gmail.com wrote: http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Jake Eisenman ad...@oneskylitnight.org wrote: Seems Mani's site is down or with DNS problems. Tried GoogleDNS, OpenDNS and Anonymouse with either a timeout, redirect to ask.com, or it can't find the IP address Can someone post the IP or confirm the site is down? I just got a new VPS for my clan and now we can't even put Mani on it, lol. Thanks, Jake ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Mani site down / DNS problem
I didn't even read the letters VPS on there. Depends on the provider really and the resources provided, but no, it doesn't run that great. Cheaper to rent really. On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Matthew Gottlieb matthew.j.gottl...@gmail.com wrote: 1) Mani is a BAD IDEA. 2) VPS is a VERY BAD IDEA. Srcds doesn't run well on virtual servers, from what I've read. ~ Matt srcds.com On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 8:15 PM, DontWannaName! ad...@topnotchclan.com wrote: You can download it from SteamFriends http://www.steamfriends.com/forums/index.php?autocom=downloadsshowfile=12 On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Cc2iscooL cc2isc...@gmail.com wrote: Noobish? Sourcemod has virtually the same look-alike menus, and with plugins you can do the exact same thing (plus a ton more) than mani, plus...when an update comes out you don't have to wait for someone to update the binaries. :) On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 8:05 PM, Jake Eisenman ad...@oneskylitnight.org wrote: TBH, my admins are too noobish to move to Sourcemod. Too used to it I guess :/ I've been trying to work around with the supers so we can setup sourcebans. Plus one of my coders made some modifications to funmenu. Hopefully we can dump it (mani) on the plain server, but Hosties uses some parts of mani to do it's work. Until i can code around that, it has to be there. Kornelijus Survila wrote: Yeah, why would you even use Mani? On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Jeff Sugar jeffsu...@gmail.com wrote: Better response: Why would you possibly use Mani? :/ On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Ryan Katkov ryan.kat...@gmail.com wrote: http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Jake Eisenman ad...@oneskylitnight.org wrote: Seems Mani's site is down or with DNS problems. Tried GoogleDNS, OpenDNS and Anonymouse with either a timeout, redirect to ask.com, or it can't find the IP address Can someone post the IP or confirm the site is down? I just got a new VPS for my clan and now we can't even put Mani on it, lol. Thanks, Jake ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Mani site down / DNS problem
Doing some digging it looks like the nameservers (ns1/ns2.xfactorservers.com) are failing right now, even though their site is up, but of course, their site use ns1-ns4.firehost.com. So, if I had to give you a reason their site was down, xfactor server's nameservers are failing right now. Probably a temporary issue and will be fixed with the starting of tomorrow's workweek. -Michael -- Original Message --- Subject: Re: [hlds] Mani site down / DNS problem From: Cc2iscooL cc2isc...@gmail.com To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Date: 2/21/2010 9:56 PM EST I didn't even read the letters VPS on there. Depends on the provider really and the resources provided, but no, it doesn't run that great. Cheaper to rent really. On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Matthew Gottlieb matthew.j.gottl...@gmail.com wrote: 1) Mani is a BAD IDEA. 2) VPS is a VERY BAD IDEA. Srcds doesn't run well on virtual servers, from what I've read. ~ Matt srcds.com On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 8:15 PM, DontWannaName!ad...@topnotchclan.com wrote: You can download it from SteamFriends http://www.steamfriends.com/forums/index.php?autocom=downloadsshowfile=12 On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Cc2iscooLcc2isc...@gmail.com wrote: Noobish? Sourcemod has virtually the same look-alike menus, and with plugins you can do the exact same thing (plus a ton more) than mani, plus...when an update comes out you don't have to wait for someone to update the binaries. :) On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 8:05 PM, Jake Eisenman ad...@oneskylitnight.org wrote: TBH, my admins are too noobish to move to Sourcemod. Too used to it I guess :/ I've been trying to work around with the supers so we can setup sourcebans. Plus one of my coders made some modifications to funmenu. Hopefully we can dump it (mani) on the plain server, but Hosties uses some parts of mani to do it's work. Until i can code around that, it has to be there. Kornelijus Survila wrote: Yeah, why would you even use Mani? On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Jeff Sugarjeffsu...@gmail.com wrote: Better response: Why would you possibly use Mani? :/ On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Ryan Katkov ryan.kat...@gmail.com wrote: http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Jake Eisenman ad...@oneskylitnight.org wrote: Seems Mani's site is down or with DNS problems. Tried GoogleDNS, OpenDNS and Anonymouse with either a timeout, redirect to ask.com, or it can't find the IP address Can someone post the IP or confirm the site is down? I just got a new VPS for my clan and now we can't even put Mani on it, lol. Thanks, Jake ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences
Re: [hlds] Mani site down / DNS problem
It's a nuclear fallout vps. Haven't played around with it much but it works good so far. Sent from my iPod On Feb 21, 2010, at 9:56 PM, Cc2iscooL cc2isc...@gmail.com wrote: I didn't even read the letters VPS on there. Depends on the provider really and the resources provided, but no, it doesn't run that great. Cheaper to rent really. On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Matthew Gottlieb matthew.j.gottl...@gmail.com wrote: 1) Mani is a BAD IDEA. 2) VPS is a VERY BAD IDEA. Srcds doesn't run well on virtual servers, from what I've read. ~ Matt srcds.com On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 8:15 PM, DontWannaName! ad...@topnotchclan.com wrote: You can download it from SteamFriends http://www.steamfriends.com/forums/index.php?autocom=downloadsshowfile=12 On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Cc2iscooL cc2isc...@gmail.com wrote: Noobish? Sourcemod has virtually the same look-alike menus, and with plugins you can do the exact same thing (plus a ton more) than mani, plus...when an update comes out you don't have to wait for someone to update the binaries. :) On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 8:05 PM, Jake Eisenman ad...@oneskylitnight.org wrote: TBH, my admins are too noobish to move to Sourcemod. Too used to it I guess :/ I've been trying to work around with the supers so we can setup sourcebans. Plus one of my coders made some modifications to funmenu. Hopefully we can dump it (mani) on the plain server, but Hosties uses some parts of mani to do it's work. Until i can code around that, it has to be there. Kornelijus Survila wrote: Yeah, why would you even use Mani? On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Jeff Sugar jeffsu...@gmail.com wrote: Better response: Why would you possibly use Mani? :/ On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Ryan Katkov ryan.kat...@gmail.com wrote: http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Jake Eisenman ad...@oneskylitnight.org wrote: Seems Mani's site is down or with DNS problems. Tried GoogleDNS, OpenDNS and Anonymouse with either a timeout, redirect to ask.com, or it can't find the IP address Can someone post the IP or confirm the site is down? I just got a new VPS for my clan and now we can't even put Mani on it, lol. Thanks, Jake ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Mani site down / DNS problem
An NFO VPS is superior to all other VPSs for gaming. Good choice. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Jake Eisenman Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 10:31 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Mani site down / DNS problem It's a nuclear fallout vps. Haven't played around with it much but it works good so far. Sent from my iPod On Feb 21, 2010, at 9:56 PM, Cc2iscooL cc2isc...@gmail.com wrote: I didn't even read the letters VPS on there. Depends on the provider really and the resources provided, but no, it doesn't run that great. Cheaper to rent really. On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Matthew Gottlieb matthew.j.gottl...@gmail.com wrote: 1) Mani is a BAD IDEA. 2) VPS is a VERY BAD IDEA. Srcds doesn't run well on virtual servers, from what I've read. ~ Matt srcds.com On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 8:15 PM, DontWannaName! ad...@topnotchclan.com wrote: You can download it from SteamFriends http://www.steamfriends.com/forums/index.php?autocom=downloadsshowfile=12 On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Cc2iscooL cc2isc...@gmail.com wrote: Noobish? Sourcemod has virtually the same look-alike menus, and with plugins you can do the exact same thing (plus a ton more) than mani, plus...when an update comes out you don't have to wait for someone to update the binaries. :) On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 8:05 PM, Jake Eisenman ad...@oneskylitnight.org wrote: TBH, my admins are too noobish to move to Sourcemod. Too used to it I guess :/ I've been trying to work around with the supers so we can setup sourcebans. Plus one of my coders made some modifications to funmenu. Hopefully we can dump it (mani) on the plain server, but Hosties uses some parts of mani to do it's work. Until i can code around that, it has to be there. Kornelijus Survila wrote: Yeah, why would you even use Mani? On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Jeff Sugar jeffsu...@gmail.com wrote: Better response: Why would you possibly use Mani? :/ On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Ryan Katkov ryan.kat...@gmail.com wrote: http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Jake Eisenman ad...@oneskylitnight.org wrote: Seems Mani's site is down or with DNS problems. Tried GoogleDNS, OpenDNS and Anonymouse with either a timeout, redirect to ask.com, or it can't find the IP address Can someone post the IP or confirm the site is down? I just got a new VPS for my clan and now we can't even put Mani on it, lol. Thanks, Jake ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
