Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

2014-08-27 Thread Kyle Sanderson
I seem to remember HPE testing changes to de_dust on temporary 'official' servers with a build-id appendage. It may be worth continuing that idea in TF as the pattern continues. Kyle. On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 6:30 PM, Eric Smith wrote: > We've released a mandatory update for TF2. The notes for th

[hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

2014-08-27 Thread Eric Smith
We've released a mandatory update for TF2. The notes for the update are below. The new version number is 2377855. -Eric - - Rolled back the previous changes to rd_asteroid ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list p

[hlds_linux] Another mandatory TF2 update coming...

2014-08-27 Thread Eric Smith
Unfortunately, we need to have another mandatory update this evening to fix a game-breaking issue in rd_asteroid. We're sorry if this causes you any problems. We should have it ready very soon. -Eric ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or

Re: [hlds_linux] Multiple SRCDS Instances don't list on Steam's Server Browser

2014-08-27 Thread Jeff Nelson
@Ross SV_LAN 1 has been set. @Weasels The clients are on the same network. On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 7:07 PM, Weasels Lair wrote: > Oh yeah, that (LAN tab) makes all the difference in the world. > > I seem to recall that LAN games are restricted to operating on the same > sub-net (i.e. can not b

Re: [hlds_linux] Multiple SRCDS Instances don't list on Steam's Server Browser

2014-08-27 Thread Weasels Lair
Oh yeah, that (LAN tab) makes all the difference in the world. I seem to recall that LAN games are restricted to operating on the same sub-net (i.e. can not be routed). Are all your game-clients on the same sub-net as your game-servers? On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 4:57 PM, Jeff Nelson wrote: > Ah,

Re: [hlds_linux] Multiple SRCDS Instances don't list on Steam's Server Browser

2014-08-27 Thread Ross Bemrose
Dumb question, did you remember to set sv_lan 1? On 8/27/2014 7:57 PM, Jeff Nelson wrote: Ah, good question. Actually when I refer to server browser, I'm referring to the LAN tab portion of the server browser. I apologize if this has added confusion, I didn't indicate that in any of my posts. In

Re: [hlds_linux] Multiple SRCDS Instances don't list on Steam's Server Browser

2014-08-27 Thread Jeff Nelson
Ah, good question. Actually when I refer to server browser, I'm referring to the LAN tab portion of the server browser. I apologize if this has added confusion, I didn't indicate that in any of my posts. In order for my servers to appear there, I shouldn't need an internet connection. (Internet is

Re: [hlds_linux] Multiple SRCDS Instances don't list on Steam's Server Browser

2014-08-27 Thread Weasels Lair
This may sound like a stupid question, but if they are not intended to be "open to the world for availability", then why do they need to appear on the server list? Also, if you are binding each instance to specific IP's like that, I would expect the entire executable to default to using that IP fo

Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

2014-08-27 Thread Paul
Hi Eric, Many thanks. Hopefully it's also related to the problem with links that have a target of _blank not opening a new window correctly either (it seems to open itself, the original URL which had the link that is), but I presume you already know about that bug too. Thanks for replying and good

Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

2014-08-27 Thread Eric Smith
The crashes that Mac and Linux clients were experiencing are being fixed. We don't have a release date yet. -Eric -Original Message- From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Paul Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2014 3:4

Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

2014-08-27 Thread Paul
Hi Eric, Nice update and all, but is there any official word regarding the HTML MOTD bugs introduced since the recent update, even if it's weeks away it would be appreciated to know it hasn't been completely forgotten? Many thanks. Regards, Paul. On 27 August 2014 23:38, Eric Smith wrote: > W

Re: [hlds_linux] Multiple SRCDS Instances don't list on Steam's Server Browser

2014-08-27 Thread Jeff Nelson
@Weasels You are correct. I have 3, in this case, ip addresses added to the same network card in Linux. These are not virtual interfaces created by a hypervisor, but simply additional ip assignments to the physical network interface or "Alias" addresses if you prefer. These are all behind one firew

[hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update released

2014-08-27 Thread Eric Smith
We've released a mandatory update for TF2. The notes for the update are below. The new version number is 2377372. -Eric - - Added a new promo item - Client/server memory improvements - Fixed ragdolls not applying the ice/gold effect for cosmetic items - F

Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] New SteamID format for TF2

2014-08-27 Thread pwn
We were punished in a similar fashion 3 years before on my campus, where the whole building of 2000 students were stripped from the internet for a day because of a single person that disobeyed the rules - it's a shitty approach but sadly we can't do anything against it. And I am aware of that

Re: [hlds_linux] Multiple SRCDS Instances don't list on Steam's Server Browser

2014-08-27 Thread Jesse Molina
Possibly not related, but you need to be using -ip, not +ip. Also, the +map command may need to be the last argument in the command line. Better yet, put it into your autoexec.cfg instead. On 8/27/14, 13:22, Jeff Nelson wrote: I've been out of pocket for a while and I was able to finally

Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update coming

2014-08-27 Thread Joe Davison
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Any info on when it'll be migrating to Source 2? On 27/08/14 22:20, Eric Smith wrote: > We're working on a mandatory update for TF2. We should have it > ready soon. > > -Eric > > > ___ To unsubscribe, > e

Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] New SteamID format for TF2

2014-08-27 Thread Robert Paulson
You realize that was back in November when elitepowered was using fake players even when Valve had been notified about them months before? Punishing all community servers for this is like deleting the Valve workshop just because one person used copyrighted art. On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 2:04 PM, p

[hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 update coming

2014-08-27 Thread Eric Smith
We're working on a mandatory update for TF2. We should have it ready soon. -Eric ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux

[hlds_linux] AppID 90 not currently installable from SteamCMD?

2014-08-27 Thread Ross Bemrose
So, I've been doing some experiments over the last few days, and it appears that the new Beta Alfred pushed out for CS 1.6 last week had made appid 90 uninstallable from steamcmd, at least on Linux. I haven't tested this on Windows. It will either bomb out with error 0x402 or 0x602. According to

Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] New SteamID format for TF2

2014-08-27 Thread Paul
Given your reply was sent to my inbox directly and not just the mailing list then I'll assume you meant the message for me. In response I ask since when am I currently whining about Quickplay every week, and when did I claim that you were someone who promoted their decision to ignore us/server owne

Re: [hlds_linux] Multiple SRCDS Instances don't list on Steam's Server Browser

2014-08-27 Thread Weasels Lair
Hmmm ... am I reading this correctly? > *./srcds_run -console -game cstrike +map de_dust +maxplayers 10 +ip > 10.0.0.21 -port 27015 +exec server.cfg* > *./srcds_run -console -game cstrike +map de_dust +maxplayers 10 +ip > 10.0.0.22 -port 27015 +exec server.cfg* > *./srcds_run -console -game cstrik

Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] New SteamID format for TF2

2014-08-27 Thread pwn
Just to clarify.. I never intended to sound like someone who promotes valve's quickplay decision as a perfect, nor the servers superior to community ones (well, at least a bunch of them), but looking on it as players that prefer vanilla experience then yeah, valve's ones are the most comfortabl

Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] New SteamID format for TF2

2014-08-27 Thread dan
On 27/08/2014 16:28, Frank wrote: You can't argue with him..I have no idea why I even replied. You said it though "Default Quickplay Settings" - Valve needs to take the default settings off of Valve servers as targets and apply them to the Community servers or just mix them up so they are all sh

Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] New SteamID format for TF2

2014-08-27 Thread dan
On 27/08/2014 16:30, Alexander Corn wrote: If you hold someone's hand from the start and never let go, they're never going to grow up. In this case, people are conditioned to click the giant "PLAY MULTIPLAYER" button and click "PLAY NOW". Many players never click the server browser button, and of

Re: [hlds_linux] Multiple SRCDS Instances don't list on Steam's Server Browser

2014-08-27 Thread Jeff Nelson
I've been out of pocket for a while and I was able to finally test. The problem has been narrowed down to specifying the IP in the srcds startup command. If I use: "./srcds_run -console -game tf +map ctf_well +maxplayers 24 +ip 10.10.0.50" The game server is running, live and available to connect

Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] New SteamID format for TF2

2014-08-27 Thread Paul
That and the fact that most of the time they seem to not respond to bugs or topics such as Quickplay. On 27 August 2014 20:39, Robert Paulson wrote: > Before the quickplay change, there was not a single official server in the > top 200 on gametracker. If official servers were truly the best, th

Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] New SteamID format for TF2

2014-08-27 Thread Robert Paulson
Before the quickplay change, there was not a single official server in the top 200 on gametracker. If official servers were truly the best, they would have been up there in equal numbers. Some community server worse than official ones. But there are a large number of community servers that were cl

Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] New SteamID format for TF2

2014-08-27 Thread pwn
Dňa 27. 8. 2014 19:00 Jake Forrester wrote / napísal(a): If we want to inspire change, we need to have a compelling argument that the majority of us can get behind--not just "psht, you ruined my servers, revert the changes or I'll shout at you." You said it though "Default Quickplay Settings" -

Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] New SteamID format for TF2

2014-08-27 Thread Jake Forrester
> > Haha, I can't believe how I've seemingly managed to start off a Quickplay > discussion, or perhaps debate, just by mentioning it earlier on as an > example of the one of many failings that Valve doesn't officially keep > people up to date on. I found it funny too, but it's not surprising. Th

Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] New SteamID format for TF2

2014-08-27 Thread Aaron Thompson
Wow really? No On Aug 27, 2014 11:57 AM, "Jorge Cobos" wrote: > Entra & Disfruta De Nuestros servidores. > -[ZK]#Zero Killed Base Builder gT. 204.10.109.17:27016 > -[ZK]# ]NG[ ProPlayers GT. 204.10.109.23:27015 > J-200| §olDi3r XtReMe 24/7 IP :74.91.127.210:27019 > > > > 2014-08-27 10:17 GMT-06:0

Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] New SteamID format for TF2

2014-08-27 Thread Jorge Cobos
Entra & Disfruta De Nuestros servidores. -[ZK]#Zero Killed Base Builder gT. 204.10.109.17:27016 -[ZK]# ]NG[ ProPlayers GT. 204.10.109.23:27015 J-200| §olDi3r XtReMe 24/7 IP :74.91.127.210:27019 2014-08-27 10:17 GMT-06:00 Paul : > Haha, I can't believe how I've seemingly managed to start off a Q

Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] New SteamID format for TF2

2014-08-27 Thread Paul
Haha, I can't believe how I've seemingly managed to start off a Quickplay discussion, or perhaps debate, just by mentioning it earlier on as an example of the one of many failings that Valve doesn't officially keep people up to date on. On 27 August 2014 16:37, Ilya Larin wrote: > Valve said th

Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] New SteamID format for TF2

2014-08-27 Thread Ilya Larin
Valve said that there will not be server quickplay scores in the future 2014-08-27 19:31 GMT+04:00 Alexander Corn : > Setting the server host to "don't care" by default wouldn't even help at > this point unless it came with a complete reset of all Valve servers' > scores. Being the default serve

Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] New SteamID format for TF2

2014-08-27 Thread Alexander Corn
Setting the server host to "don't care" by default wouldn't even help at this point unless it came with a complete reset of all Valve servers' scores. Being the default servers for so long has artificially inflated their scores. Dr. McKay www.doctormckay.com On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 11:28 AM, Fr

Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] New SteamID format for TF2

2014-08-27 Thread Alexander Corn
If you hold someone's hand from the start and never let go, they're never going to grow up. In this case, people are conditioned to click the giant "PLAY MULTIPLAYER" button and click "PLAY NOW". Many players never click the server browser button, and of those who do, many take one look at it, get

Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] New SteamID format for TF2

2014-08-27 Thread Frank
You can't argue with him..I have no idea why I even replied. You said it though "Default Quickplay Settings" - Valve needs to take the default settings off of Valve servers as targets and apply them to the Community servers or just mix them up so they are all showing up not just Valve servers. -

Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] New SteamID format for TF2

2014-08-27 Thread Valentin G.
Who said in this thread that people are too dumb to use the server browser? They obviously aren't, and what you present is a non-argument. Fact is: A significant part of the playerbase is not using the server browser anymore, and the alternative options by default heavily prefer Valve servers, to t

Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] New SteamID format for TF2

2014-08-27 Thread Ilya Larin
dan, you don`t get the point of this discussion. While old bad servers are full of players, new good servers can`t get players not because they are bad, but because players don`t want to open server browser and look for a good server. (Im not saying that all old servers are bad and all new servers

Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] New SteamID format for TF2

2014-08-27 Thread dan
On 27/08/2014 15:59, Alexander Corn wrote: How, exactly, do you expect people to get players on their servers when about 45% of people probably don't even know that the server browser exists? Right, because only a guy who pretends to be a Doctor can be intelligent enough to use the server brow

Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] New SteamID format for TF2

2014-08-27 Thread dan
On 27/08/2014 15:37, Frank wrote: Pushing USA players to EU is a problem on its own that can be dealt with. Yes, by providing more USA servers (and perhaps servers in some regions that don't have any - hint: if you want full servers run them where Valve don't) You can make servers better

Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] New SteamID format for TF2

2014-08-27 Thread Alexander Corn
How, exactly, do you expect people to get players on their servers when about 45% of people probably don't even know that the server browser exists? Dr. McKay www.doctormckay.com On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 10:30 AM, dan wrote: > On 27/08/2014 15:14, Frank wrote: > >> It would be nice to see Valv

Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] New SteamID format for TF2

2014-08-27 Thread Frank
Pushing USA players to EU is a problem on its own that can be dealt with. You can make servers better but at the end of the day if Valve makes it difficult for people to find them then there is no point. Options are auto checked for Valve servers, I have a Vanilla Asteroid server up and it hardl

Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] New SteamID format for TF2

2014-08-27 Thread dan
On 27/08/2014 15:14, Frank wrote: It would be nice to see Valve decrease the amount of Valve servers No it wouldn't. It's already bad enough when USA players get put on European servers with 150+ pings. If anything they need a few more. If you can't get players then make your servers better

Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] New SteamID format for TF2

2014-08-27 Thread Ilya Larin
You just don't understand if there were not hats you wouldn't have a now 6 year old game as popular as it still is. Bute i agree. TF2 has many aspects of playing. Now the gameservers owning one does not make us enjoy it. Thats sad. Hope i will have enough patience to not shut my servers down becaus

Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] New SteamID format for TF2

2014-08-27 Thread Frank
It would be nice to see Valve decrease the amount of Valve servers - perhaps one of those guys will chime in here and let us know the current amount and if they plan on decreasing any. A little help from Valve to push players to Community servers would be nice. Issue is the constant complains and