Re: [hlds_linux] Intel Turbo Boost?

2011-11-18 Thread John
That should not be the case with modern CPUs, since the TSC should be constant+invariant (non-stop) and therefore won't change when the clock speed does. It has had these properties on Intel since at least Nehalem. I believe that it is also synchronized between cores on modern CPUs. With these

Re: [hlds_linux] Intel Turbo Boost?

2011-11-18 Thread Claudio Beretta
last time I checked (before the '66 fps' update) it happened both on windows and on linux. The biggest effect I experienced was when running with speedstep AND turbo boost enabled: it made the frequency jump from 1.something GHz to 2.8 GHz on a i7-920 cpu. Servers were running at 72 ticks instead

Re: [hlds_linux] Intel Turbo Boost?

2011-11-18 Thread Henry Goffin
If anyone has steps to reproduce this, including the specific Linux kernel or Windows version, I'd love to know about it. Thanks! On Nov 18, 2011, at 12:06 AM, Claudio Beretta beretta.clau...@gmail.com wrote: last time I checked (before the '66 fps' update) it happened both on windows and on

Re: [hlds_linux] Intel Turbo Boost?

2011-11-18 Thread PAL-18
On my existing dedicated server i rent, its a dual core and at one time there were 3 servers and with all servers full (3x 20 slots) - there were no lag spikes or performance issues and the servers werent even locked to using a specific core. When i had my new servers built, i couldnt afford

Re: [hlds_linux] Intel Turbo Boost?

2011-11-17 Thread David Parker
server mailing list hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 10:58:31 PM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Intel Turbo Boost? I'd run one server per cpu core at first, and see how it performs. If it performs well, then try two servers per core and see if one core can run

Re: [hlds_linux] Intel Turbo Boost?

2011-11-17 Thread Saul Rennison
That's wrong. Srcds reported CPU speed is *not* used for timing, I'm pretty sure it's sole purpose is for benchmarking. It definitely has *no* effect on gameplay. On Wednesday, November 16, 2011, Claudio Beretta beretta.clau...@gmail.com wrote: keep it monitored for a few minutes when the box

Re: [hlds_linux] Intel Turbo Boost?

2011-11-17 Thread Prithu Parker
SRCDS definitely DOES use the benchmarked speed for timing, hence the problems seen when a server is started on a non-turbod core. Once the core becomes boosted, the game runs much faster than it should, and hence vice versa if the core is boosted prior to launching the server and the speed is

Re: [hlds_linux] Intel Turbo Boost?

2011-11-17 Thread Henry Goffin
Can you reproduce this on a reasonably vanilla kernel? I see no reason why this would be the case. On Nov 17, 2011, at 6:03 PM, Prithu Parker pri...@iinet.net.au wrote: SRCDS definitely DOES use the benchmarked speed for timing, hence the problems seen when a server is started on a

[hlds_linux] Intel Turbo Boost?

2011-11-16 Thread PAL-18
Would Intel's Turbo Boost negatively affect server performance? P.S. Intel Turbo Boost is a built-in feature of certain processors that dynamically overclocks the base frequency of the processor (eg. going from 3.50Ghz to 3.80Ghz) during periods of high load.

Re: [hlds_linux] Intel Turbo Boost?

2011-11-16 Thread Emil Larsson
Overclockers tend to turn it off since it can cause instability of the system is already manually overclocked (it's tweaked after default stock clock). If you hadn't overclocked, it's safe to keep it on. At best case it improves perfomance, at worst it's the same as running without it. On Wed,

Re: [hlds_linux] Intel Turbo Boost?

2011-11-16 Thread James Botting
Yeah, in an overclocked system it attempts to underclock the processor back to its base frequency, which can at best removes the whole point of an overclock, and at worse causes severe instability. But as was stated, if you havnt overclocked the machine I don't see why it would effect performance.

Re: [hlds_linux] Intel Turbo Boost?

2011-11-16 Thread Kyle Sanderson
It helps me a lot. As far as I know it hasn't done anything negative, except maybe turning off due to some SuperMicro power saving feature that you cannot seem to disable. Kyle. On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 6:17 AM, James Botting bottswan...@googlemail.comwrote: Yeah, in an overclocked system it

Re: [hlds_linux] Intel Turbo Boost?

2011-11-16 Thread Claudio Beretta
keep it monitored for a few minutes when the box runs at low CPU load and at high load: if you see cores frequencies that keep changing, you will probably want to disable it. Also you should keep in mind that SRCDS runs a benchmark of the CPU the first time it starts: if it starts when the box is

Re: [hlds_linux] Intel Turbo Boost?

2011-11-16 Thread Oskar Levin
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Re: [hlds_linux] Intel Turbo Boost?

2011-11-16 Thread Kyle Sanderson
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Re: [hlds_linux] Intel Turbo Boost?

2011-11-16 Thread Ook
Turbo Boost is supposed to be controlled by the OS, and there is a lot of noise about it not working at all with linux. Has anyone here running linux verified that Turbo Boost actually works? AMD uses TurboCore, but I disable it on my boards and just up the clock a couple hundred MHz. YMMV,

Re: [hlds_linux] Intel Turbo Boost?

2011-11-16 Thread John
On 11/17/2011 11:13 AM, Ook wrote: Turbo Boost is supposed to be controlled by the OS, and there is a lot of noise about it not working at all with linux. Has anyone here running linux verified that Turbo Boost actually works? Yes, it does work, if you are running the correct kernel version

Re: [hlds_linux] Intel Turbo Boost?

2011-11-16 Thread PAL-18
Yeah, i figured it would cause some problems. Thing is, im planning on putting between 4 to 8 SRCDS servers on each machine (i have 2 machines). The specs are: Intel® Core™ i7-2600K Processor (8M Cache, 3.40 GHz, Multi-Threading Enabled) 500GB Raid-0 16GB Dual Sided Memory The reason why i

Re: [hlds_linux] Intel Turbo Boost?

2011-11-16 Thread Ook
I'd run one server per cpu core at first, and see how it performs. If it performs well, then try two servers per core and see if one core can run two servers. I'm sure others here have experience on multiple servers per core and can comment on how well it works. I initially ran an L4D server