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Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Valve Security Breach
Never has a more irrational or reactionary mail been posted to this list.
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 7:52 PM, Danneeda...@ntlworld.com wrote:
On 10/11/2011 23:55, DontWannaName! wrote:
If you haven't noticed, most
, 11 November 2011 8:59 AM
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Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Valve Security Breach
Never has a more irrational or reactionary mail been posted to this list.
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 7:52 PM, Danneeda...@ntlworld.com wrote:
On 10/11/2011 23:55
: [hlds_linux] Valve Security Breach
Hey VALVe,
Why isn't there an option of resetting ones' password outside of the Steam
client itself?
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 7:50 PM, ics i...@ics-base.net wrote:
If you do a lot of Steam purchases, it's a conviniency issue. Few clicks
and you are done. After
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Valve Security Breach
If you do a lot of Steam purchases, it's a conviniency issue. Few clicks
and you are done. After entering the stuff 360 times you really rethink
twice but being security paranoid, you don't fill anything
@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Valve Security Breach
The Norwegian newspaper VG announced that VALVE had been compromised and
that they gained access to the master-Steam database, where everything is
stored.http://www.vg.no/spill/artikkel.php?artid=10015971
Anyone clear this up?
Date: Fri
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[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Michael
Johansen
Sent: Friday, 11 November 2011 11:10 PM
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Valve Security Breach
The Norwegian newspaper VG announced that VALVE had been
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Valve Security Breach
The Norwegian newspaper VG announced that VALVE had been compromised
and
that they gained access to the master-Steam database, where everything is
stored.http://www.vg.no/spill/artikkel.php?artid=10015971
Anyone clear this up?
Date
2011 20:28
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Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Valve Security Breach
Without rancor or anger, I tell you this is very unhelpful, regardless
of
what your position is on the SPUF closure.
On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 12:23 PM, Dan needa...@ntlworld.com wrote
...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-
boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Porter
Sent: 09 November 2011 20:28
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Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Valve Security Breach
Without rancor or anger, I tell you this is very
: Re: [hlds_linux] Valve Security Breach
Without rancor or anger, I tell you this is very unhelpful, regardless
of
what your position is on the SPUF closure.
On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 12:23 PM, Dan needa...@ntlworld.com wrote:
On 09/11/2011 19:18, Mart-Jan Reeuwijk wrote:
Well
list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Valve Security Breach
Without rancor or anger, I tell you this is very unhelpful, regardless
of
what your position is on the SPUF closure.
On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 12:23 PM, Dan needa...@ntlworld.com wrote:
On 09/11/2011 19:18, Mart-Jan Reeuwijk wrote
Sent: 09 November 2011 20:28
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Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Valve Security Breach
Without rancor or anger, I tell you this is very unhelpful, regardless
of
what your position is on the SPUF closure.
On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 12:23 PM
[mailto:hlds_linux-
boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Porter
Sent: 09 November 2011 20:28
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Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Valve Security Breach
Without rancor or anger, I tell you this is very unhelpful, regardless
of
what your
-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-
boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Porter
Sent: 09 November 2011 20:28
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Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Valve Security Breach
Without rancor or anger, I tell you
server mailing list'
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Valve Security Breach
Confirmation that the attack breached more than their forums:
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/11/10/steam-hacked/
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From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-
boun
...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of
gamead...@127001.org
Sent: Friday, 11 November 2011 7:01 AM
To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list'
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Valve Security Breach
Confirmation that the attack breached more
list'
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Valve Security Breach
Confirmation that the attack breached more than their forums:
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/11/10/steam-hacked/
-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-
boun
On 10/11/2011 23:55, DontWannaName! wrote:
If you haven't noticed, most credit card companies have very good fraud
prevention now. What's the worst they can do? I mean it's bad, but really not
the end of the world. You guys are just causing unneeded drama about an issue
that they are handling
Never has a more irrational or reactionary mail been posted to this list.
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 7:52 PM, Dan needa...@ntlworld.com wrote:
On 10/11/2011 23:55, DontWannaName! wrote:
If you haven't noticed, most credit card companies have very good fraud
prevention now. What's the worst they
...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of msleeper
Sent: Friday, 11 November 2011 8:59 AM
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Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Valve Security Breach
Never has a more irrational or reactionary mail been posted to this list.
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 7:52 PM, Dan
On 11/11/2011 00:59, msleeper wrote:
Never has a more irrational or reactionary mail been posted to this list.
Well if there's a prize, I hope your posts pretending it's only the
forum that has been hacked should win.
--
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[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of msleeper
Sent: Friday, 11 November 2011 8:59 AM
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Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Valve Security Breach
On 11/11/2011 01:26, dmex wrote:
I am a bit annoyed Gabe didn't mention all the unencrypted personal
information stored on the same Steam database the hackers now have, It's
more than enough to pull off really good social engineering/phishing attacks
and maybe even some ID theft.
At minimum
Also from the same message:
We do not have evidence that encrypted credit card numbers or personally
identifying information were taken by the intruders
So, not sure why you're assuming they have all of that information.
I'm assuming personally identifying information means personally
Sent: Friday, 11 November 2011 9:31 AM
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Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Valve Security Breach
How do you know it's unencrypted?
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 7:26 PM, dmex dme...@gmail.com wrote:
Don't worry, He'll be fine after his nappy gets changed
On 11/11/2011 01:39, msleeper wrote:
Also from the same message:
We do not have evidence that encrypted credit card numbers or personally
identifying information were taken by the intruders
So, not sure why you're assuming they have all of that information.
I'm assuming personally
] Valve Security Breach
Never has a more irrational or reactionary mail been posted to this list.
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 7:52 PM, Dan needa...@ntlworld.com wrote:
On 10/11/2011 23:55, DontWannaName! wrote:
If you haven't noticed, most credit card companies have very good
fraud prevention now
:59 AM
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Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Valve Security Breach
Never has a more irrational or reactionary mail been posted to this list.
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 7:52 PM, Danneeda...@ntlworld.com wrote:
On 10/11/2011 23:55, DontWannaName! wrote:
If you
On 09/11/2011 02:42, Nathan Radcliffe wrote:
If email address have been exposed and passwords have been exposed,
then all account details for anyone with no password management system
have been exposed. I don't run a service for computer security
professionals - I run a service for gamers.
needa...@ntlworld.com
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Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Valve Security Breach
On 09/11/2011 02:42, Nathan Radcliffe wrote:
If email address have been exposed and passwords have been
On 09/11/2011 19:18, Mart-Jan Reeuwijk wrote:
Well, some of his community gamers may well be also users on SPUF
Some of his users may have bought batches of tinned spam from Crayed
mentos starting #219-245.
If they eat it, there's a chance it was contaminated with e-coli virus
and they might
Without rancor or anger, I tell you this is very unhelpful, regardless of
what your position is on the SPUF closure.
On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 12:23 PM, Dan needa...@ntlworld.com wrote:
On 09/11/2011 19:18, Mart-Jan Reeuwijk wrote:
Well, some of his community gamers may well be also users on
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[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of m33crob
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 22:08
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Subject: [hlds_linux] Valve Security Breach
Hello
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Emil Larsson
Sent: Tuesday, 8 November 2011 4:07 PM
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Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Valve Security Breach
Indeed, as far I heard the forums are on a wholly separate server, the
forums
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Emil Larsson
Sent: Tuesday, 8 November 2011 4:07 PM
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Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Valve Security Breach
Indeed, as far I heard the forums are on a wholly separate server, the
forums
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of m33crob
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 22:08
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Subject: [hlds_linux] Valve Security Breach
Hello Valve,
I'd like to request notification via
Subject: [hlds_linux] Valve Security Breach
Hello Valve,
I'd like to request notification via these mailing lists once/if Valve
makes a statement about todays security breach and subsequent downtime.
http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/11/07/steam-forums-down-after-possible-hacker-at
tack
@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Tuesday, 8 November 2011, 16:18
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Valve Security Breach
Lol please stop making terrible excuses to connect any Steam issue with the
forum issue. They are completely unrelated. You need to contact support.
Everyone else just needs to be patient
This is not relevant to server administration.
On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 1:07 AM, m33crob ad...@m33crob.com wrote:
Hello Valve,
I'd like to request notification via these mailing lists once/if Valve
makes a statement about todays security breach and subsequent downtime.
Server being linked to Steam Account, i'd say it's linked somehow.
2011/11/8 msleeper mslee...@ismsleeperwrong.com
This is not relevant to server administration.
On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 1:07 AM, m33crob ad...@m33crob.com wrote:
Hello Valve,
I'd like to request notification via these
Assuming that your SPUF login and password is the same as your Steam
login and password, 1.) that's not Valve's fault that you are
literally the worst at the password game, but 2.) it's only a problem
if you are in the 0.001% of people who don't use Steam Guard.
On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 3:41 PM,
Unfortunately, they are probably going to just let it stay hacked. Since
they have said they aren't going to chase the fake clients issue due to
more bugs being introduced by patching against it, why bother with the
forums? Fix one hole, someone finds another.
Oh well, it was a good community
Looks like its disabled now...
http://sourceop.com/modules.php?name=Forumsfile=viewtopict=90261postdays=0postorder=ascstart=75
On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 3:58 PM, coffee problem spoofedpac...@gmail.comwrote:
Unfortunately, they are probably going to just let it stay hacked. Since
they have said
Correct, but where else should it be posted? On the forums maybe? It's
been nearly two days, and still no official press release. A few people
have reported receiving spam emails and I've seen unconfirmed reports of
password databases being leaked.
I don't have much doubt that most people on
I think you are thinking the worst. All someone needs to post what they did
is access to the VB admin CP which just requires an admin. My guess is it
isnt as bad as people are making it out to be and right now everyone is
speculating the worst. Just chill
On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 4:51 PM,
This is related to server administration. Some people use Steam groups
to make administrators.
Many people are also running TF2 websites that use Steam openid, and
if that is compromised, then impersonation can occur which results in
scams.
On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 12:05 PM, msleeper
Thinking the worst is the best thing to do in this situation. Until Valve
release some indication of what account details (if any) have
been compromised it's easiest to assume all details have been, and advise
all users to look over their account security. Steamguard works great if
you have
Yes, panicking and being reactionary is always the best course of action.
On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 8:38 PM, Nathan Radcliffe kugr...@gmail.com wrote:
Thinking the worst is the best thing to do in this situation. Until Valve
release some indication of what account details (if any) have
been
: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of msleeper
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 17:45
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Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Valve Security Breach
Yes, panicking and being reactionary is always the best
] On Behalf Of msleeper
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 17:45
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Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Valve Security Breach
Yes, panicking and being reactionary is always the best course of action.
On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 8:38 PM, Nathan Radcliffe kugr...@gmail.com
Feel free to suggest a better option. Should I ignore the still as yet
unknown (and unconfirmed by the company) security breach that has rendered
a major section of it's website offline for near on two days, or warn the
several hundred of my users that they should look over their account and
As I said:
Assuming that your SPUF login and password is the same as your Steam
login and password, 1.) that's not Valve's fault that you are
literally the worst at the password game, but 2.) it's only a problem
if you are in the 0.001% of people who don't use Steam Guard.
So unless your
I wonder why the Valve TF2 servers themselves have been offline since
yesterday.
On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 9:09 PM, msleeper mslee...@ismsleeperwrong.comwrote:
As I said:
Assuming that your SPUF login and password is the same as your Steam
login and password, 1.) that's not Valve's fault that
Wow, clearly it's a conspiracy. Valve must be completely compromised.
Except I see hundreds (thousands?) of Valve TF2 servers in my server
browser.
They are not down.
On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 9:12 PM, coffee problem spoofedpac...@gmail.comwrote:
I wonder why the Valve TF2 servers themselves
Oh no, 1nsane, you left your Jump To Conclusions mat at home!
On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 9:39 PM, 1nsane 1nsane...@gmail.com wrote:
Wow, clearly it's a conspiracy. Valve must be completely compromised.
Except I see hundreds (thousands?) of Valve TF2 servers in my server
browser.
They are not
And as I said:
Steamguard works great if
you have different passwords for your steam account and steam forums
and
email, but I still know a lot of users both in gaming areas and real
life
areas that use the same password for everything (despite how much I
discourage it).
If email
If you have the same password for your Steam forum account, for your
Steam login, and for the email address that Steam is tied to (and by
proxy, the same email address on file on SPUF) then - and I'm just
gonna say it - you probably deserve to have something bad like this
happen so you wisen up to
.
-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-
boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of msleeper
Sent: 09 November 2011 03:40
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Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Valve Security Breach
If you have the same
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Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Valve Security Breach
If you have the same password for your Steam forum account, for your
Steam login, and for the email address that Steam is tied to (and by
proxy, the same email address on file on SPUF) then - and I'm just
2011 03:40
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Valve Security Breach
If you have the same password for your Steam forum account, for your
Steam login, and for the email address that Steam is tied to (and by
proxy, the same email address on file on SPUF
-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-
boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Nomaan Ahmad
Sent: 09 November 2011 04:11
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Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Valve Security Breach
Since when is vBulletin part of Steam systems?
On 9
Hello Valve,
I'd like to request notification via these mailing lists once/if Valve
makes a statement about todays security breach and subsequent downtime.
http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/11/07/steam-forums-down-after-possible-hacker-attack/
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Subject: [hlds_linux] Valve Security Breach
Hello Valve,
I'd like to request notification via these mailing lists once/if Valve
makes a statement about todays security breach and subsequent downtime.
http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/11/07/steam-forums
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of m33crob
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 22:08
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Subject: [hlds_linux] Valve Security Breach
Hello Valve,
I'd like to request notification via
...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of m33crob
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 22:08
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Subject: [hlds_linux] Valve Security Breach
Hello Valve,
I'd like to request
, November 07, 2011 22:17
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Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Valve Security Breach
The site that the article mentions - i got one of those e-mails and it
was sent from webmas...@steampowered.com. I checked the headers data, it
came from Valve. I'm assuming
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